North Korea Brutal Prison Camps

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Of the many prison camps in North Korea, the one in Hoeryong 22 political prison camp, located north-east of Hoeryong, Hamgyong province is the worst. 50,000 prisoners are contained and the age of youngest prisoner put to harsh work is 6.

At the camp, prisoners are put to work until they die. Prisoners work 10 hours a day, but only 180g of rice is given per person. When prisoners make a tedious mistake, they are given severe punishment. Female prisoners are often sexually abused by the security guards. Recently it was reported that the Hoeryong 22 camp has closed down, but from recent satellite imagery by North Korean activist groups, the camp is still working.

(北 회령 정치범 수용소 정말 해체됐을까? - 노컷뉴스)
 
There are hundreds of these camps all over North Korea. And there's pretty much nothing anybody can do about it.
 
Gettin' too close for comfort on No. Korean gulags...
:eusa_eh:
N. Korea’s Threat to Tear Up Armistice Comes As S. Korea Supports U.N. Human Rights Probe
March 6, 2013 – North Korea’s threat to abrogate the half-century-old armistice with South Korea is being viewed as a response to a new sanctions push at the U.N. and joint U.S.-South Korea military drills. But it also comes after a less-noticed but significant shift in Seoul’s international diplomacy.
In a statement read on state television Tuesday night, a top North Korean army general threatened to “totally” nullify the truce agreement that ended the 1950-53 Korean War. The statement accused the U.S. of “working with bloodshot eyes to swallow up” North Korea, while the South Korean “puppet forces, steeped in worship and sycophancy toward the U.S., are dancing to its tune.” It cited the annual joint Foal Eagle military training exercise now under way and negotiations in New York towards a new Security Council resolution in response to the Feb. 12 nuclear test.

Pyongyang is also incensed, however, at the decision by the new administration of South Korean President Park Geun-hye to support a call for a formal U.N.-sponsored investigation into North Korea’s human rights situation, which advocacy groups say is arguably the worst in the world. That decision, announced by a government minister at the U.N. Human Rights Council in Geneva last week, will boost the “commission of inquiry” (COI) initiative, since many countries have used South Korea’s past reticence to justify their own inaction over the issue. A vote on the COI is expected before the current HRC session ends later this month, with a simple majority vote in favor sufficient for it to pass.

For many years South Korean rights activists, including defectors from the North, have fretted over Seoul’s reluctance to confront the Stalinist regime in international forums over its human rights abuses. Previous governments, particularly the liberal ones of former Presidents Kim Dae-jung and Roh Moo-hyun from 1998-2008, placed the desire for improved inter-Korean relations under their so-called “sunshine policy” above their willingness to speak out over the plight of fellow Koreans suffering under the regime. Roh’s conservative successor, President Lee Myun-bak promised a less accommodating approach, but anti-Pyongyang activists were largely disappointed. It was only after North Korea launched an unprovoked artillery attack on a South Korean island in late 2010 that Lee ended aid, and he was reviled by the North as a “traitor.”

When Park campaigned for the presidency, she sought to position herself somewhere between the “sunshine policy” approach and Lee’s more hard-line one. so her new administration’s announced in Geneva that it would actively support the COI came as a surprise. The U.N. has had a “special rapporteur” focusing on North Korean human rights since 2004 (Pyongyang has refused to admit him, and last month described him as a “marionette” whose strings were being pulled by the U.S. and Japan). The HRC has also passed annual resolutions on North Korea’s human rights record for the past five years, as has the U.N. General Assembly for the past seven. But a commission of inquiry would be unprecedented, a step much more serious than annual non-binding resolutions. It would be carried out by independent experts who would investigate, report and make recommendations on how to respond to the abuses, including ways to seek accountability – possibly even through the International Criminal Court.

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I have no good feelings about the North Korean regime , but we -- and America in particular--- are now beginning to pay the price for the heavy handed World Policeman stance .
People do not respond well to being forced to do things or being bullied .
Now the biters are on the point of being bitten and squealing like stuck pigs .
 
Oh yeah, North Korea is bad, all right, no doubt about it

So is this

1.6 million: Total number of state and federal prisoners in the United States as of December 2010, according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics
128,195: Number of state and federal prisoners housed in private facilities as of December 2010

37: percent by which number of prisoners in private facilities increased between 2002 and 2009

217,690: Total federal inmate population as of May 2012, according to the Bureau of Prisons

27,970: Number of federal inmates in privately managed facilities within the Bureau of Prisons

33,330: Estimated size of detained immigrant population as of 2011, according to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security

Corrections Corporation of America

66: number of facilities owned and operated by Corrections Corporation of America, the country’s largest private prison company based on number of facilities

91,000: number of beds available in CCA facilities across 20 states and the District of Columbia

$1.7 billion: total revenue recorded by CCA in 2011

$17.4 million: lobbying expenditures in the last 10 years, according to the Center for Responsive Politics
$1.9 million: total political contributions from years 2003 to 2012, according to the National Institute on Money in State Politics
$3.7 million: executive compensation for CEO Damon T. Hininger in 2011

132: recorded number of inmate-on-inmate assaults at CCA-run Idaho Correctional Center between Sept. 2007 and Sept. 2008


42: recorded number of inmate-on-inmate assaults at the state-run Idaho State Correctional Institution in the same time frame (both prisons at the time held about 1,500 inmates)

The Geo Group, Inc., the U.S.’s second largest private detention company

$1.6 billion: total revenue in year 2011, according to its annual report
65: number of domestic correctional facilities owned and operated by Geo Group, Inc.

65,716: number of beds available in Geo Group, Inc.’s domestic correctional facilities

$2.5 million: lobbying expenditures in the last 8 years, according to the Center for Responsive Politics
$2.9 million: total political contributions from years 2003 to 2012, according to the National Institute on Money in State Politics
$5.7 million: executive compensation for CEO George C. Zoley in 2011

$6.5 million: damages awarded in a wrongful death lawsuit against the company last June for the beating death of an inmate by his cellmate at a GEO Group-run Oklahoma prison. An appeal has been filed and is pending.

$1.1 million: fine levied against the company in November 2011 by the New Mexico Department of Corrections for inadequate staffing at one of its prisons
 
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Of the many prison camps in North Korea, the one in Hoeryong 22 political prison camp, located north-east of Hoeryong, Hamgyong province is the worst. 50,000 prisoners are contained and the age of youngest prisoner put to harsh work is 6.

At the camp, prisoners are put to work until they die. Prisoners work 10 hours a day, but only 180g of rice is given per person. When prisoners make a tedious mistake, they are given severe punishment. Female prisoners are often sexually abused by the security guards. Recently it was reported that the Hoeryong 22 camp has closed down, but from recent satellite imagery by North Korean activist groups, the camp is still working.

(北 회ë*¹ ì*•ì¹˜ë²” 수용소 ì*•ë§ 해체됐을까? - 노컷뉴스)

I heard Camp 14 was the worst, I know that the survivor who wrote the book, "Eyes of the Tailess Animals" said that the guards kick the women into labor, when the child is born they snap the neck of the infant right before the mothers eyes, cut the cord and send her back out there to work. The Christians have it the worst, she saw them pouring red hot molten material down their throats in there - they were murdered left and right for nothing. It is the darkest place on earth - North Korea - meanwhile Dennis Rodman is partying down with the leader. Do people realise how sick that is? - Jeremiah NOTE*** The products made in North Korea have labels sown into them that read Made in China. This way China can sell it to USA & other nations for a profit. North Korea also mass produces for the Russians as well. Both nations never stopped doing business with North Korea and the American government knows it. The prisoner who survived NK prison told Congress herself as she was one who actually sewed Made in China Labels in.
 
While America has defended human rights throughout the world helping others fight for their freedom and for democracy, other nations do this. Isn't it ironic that the Greatest offenders of human rights, North Korea, China, Russia, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Guinea, Somalia, Burma.... are given a total pass by the world while America is condemned as having been "bad"??? Really??? What hypocrisy!

If only people would use their heads! - Jeremiah
 
Oh yeah, North Korea is bad, all right, no doubt about it

So is this

1.6 million: Total number of state and federal prisoners in the United States as of December 2010, according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics
128,195: Number of state and federal prisoners housed in private facilities as of December 2010

37: percent by which number of prisoners in private facilities increased between 2002 and 2009

217,690: Total federal inmate population as of May 2012, according to the Bureau of Prisons

27,970: Number of federal inmates in privately managed facilities within the Bureau of Prisons

33,330: Estimated size of detained immigrant population as of 2011, according to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security

Corrections Corporation of America

66: number of facilities owned and operated by Corrections Corporation of America, the country’s largest private prison company based on number of facilities

91,000: number of beds available in CCA facilities across 20 states and the District of Columbia

$1.7 billion: total revenue recorded by CCA in 2011

$17.4 million: lobbying expenditures in the last 10 years, according to the Center for Responsive Politics
$1.9 million: total political contributions from years 2003 to 2012, according to the National Institute on Money in State Politics
$3.7 million: executive compensation for CEO Damon T. Hininger in 2011

132: recorded number of inmate-on-inmate assaults at CCA-run Idaho Correctional Center between Sept. 2007 and Sept. 2008


42: recorded number of inmate-on-inmate assaults at the state-run Idaho State Correctional Institution in the same time frame (both prisons at the time held about 1,500 inmates)

The Geo Group, Inc., the U.S.’s second largest private detention company

$1.6 billion: total revenue in year 2011, according to its annual report
65: number of domestic correctional facilities owned and operated by Geo Group, Inc.

65,716: number of beds available in Geo Group, Inc.’s domestic correctional facilities

$2.5 million: lobbying expenditures in the last 8 years, according to the Center for Responsive Politics
$2.9 million: total political contributions from years 2003 to 2012, according to the National Institute on Money in State Politics
$5.7 million: executive compensation for CEO George C. Zoley in 2011

$6.5 million: damages awarded in a wrongful death lawsuit against the company last June for the beating death of an inmate by his cellmate at a GEO Group-run Oklahoma prison. An appeal has been filed and is pending.

$1.1 million: fine levied against the company in November 2011 by the New Mexico Department of Corrections for inadequate staffing at one of its prisons



So, you found a list and posted it without stopping to think about even one item on it, huh? You were in such a hurry to try and draw a moral equivalency between North Korea and the US that you just couldn't help yourself, huh?

:cuckoo:
 
The utter insanity of anyone attempting to compare North Korea's Gulags with American Prison Club Meds is incredible. There is no comparison. The prisons in America are 5 star hotels compared to North Korean Gulags. Americans had better wake up. In Communist nations the people have to dig in the ground for worms to eat. A bowl of rice a day for NK prisoners is a lie. They get less than nothing and eat rats, bugs, dirt, anything they can find. There is a food shortage in NK, and the prisoners don't qualify for it. - Jeremiah
 
Oh yeah, North Korea is bad, all right, no doubt about it

So is this

1.6 million: Total number of state and federal prisoners in the United States as of December 2010, according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics
128,195: Number of state and federal prisoners housed in private facilities as of December 2010

37: percent by which number of prisoners in private facilities increased between 2002 and 2009

217,690: Total federal inmate population as of May 2012, according to the Bureau of Prisons

27,970: Number of federal inmates in privately managed facilities within the Bureau of Prisons

33,330: Estimated size of detained immigrant population as of 2011, according to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security

Corrections Corporation of America

66: number of facilities owned and operated by Corrections Corporation of America, the country’s largest private prison company based on number of facilities

91,000: number of beds available in CCA facilities across 20 states and the District of Columbia

$1.7 billion: total revenue recorded by CCA in 2011

$17.4 million: lobbying expenditures in the last 10 years, according to the Center for Responsive Politics
$1.9 million: total political contributions from years 2003 to 2012, according to the National Institute on Money in State Politics
$3.7 million: executive compensation for CEO Damon T. Hininger in 2011

132: recorded number of inmate-on-inmate assaults at CCA-run Idaho Correctional Center between Sept. 2007 and Sept. 2008


42: recorded number of inmate-on-inmate assaults at the state-run Idaho State Correctional Institution in the same time frame (both prisons at the time held about 1,500 inmates)

The Geo Group, Inc., the U.S.’s second largest private detention company

$1.6 billion: total revenue in year 2011, according to its annual report
65: number of domestic correctional facilities owned and operated by Geo Group, Inc.

65,716: number of beds available in Geo Group, Inc.’s domestic correctional facilities

$2.5 million: lobbying expenditures in the last 8 years, according to the Center for Responsive Politics
$2.9 million: total political contributions from years 2003 to 2012, according to the National Institute on Money in State Politics
$5.7 million: executive compensation for CEO George C. Zoley in 2011

$6.5 million: damages awarded in a wrongful death lawsuit against the company last June for the beating death of an inmate by his cellmate at a GEO Group-run Oklahoma prison. An appeal has been filed and is pending.

$1.1 million: fine levied against the company in November 2011 by the New Mexico Department of Corrections for inadequate staffing at one of its prisons



So, you found a list and posted it without stopping to think about even one item on it, huh? You were in such a hurry to try and draw a moral equivalency between North Korea and the US that you just couldn't help yourself, huh?

:cuckoo:

I don't think it takes much argument that N Korea is a freaking authoritarian nightmare, do you?

Their prison camps are ECONOMIC UNITS designed to make their elite wealthier.

So are ours, lad, so are ours.

Ours just aren't quite SO bad....yet.

If for-profit prisons in this nation don't upset you more than those for-profit in North Korea?

Why don't they?

Do you care more about the N Koreans than you do about your fellow citizens?

If so, why?
 
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"Yuh Woon-Hyung (May 25, 1886 – July 19, 1947) was a Korean politician who argued that Korean independence was essential to world peace, and a reunification activist who struggled for the independent reunification of Korea since its national division in 1945.

"His pen-name was Mongyang (몽양; 夢陽), the Hanja for 'dream' and 'light.'

"He is rare among politicians in modern Korean history in that he is revered in both South and North Korea."

"North" and "South" Korea would never have come into existence if the US had allowed elections to go forth in 1945. Even Stalin, a murderous thug if ever one existed, called for Korean independence as soon as possible; it was FDR who advocated for a 20-30 year "trusteeship" patterned after US colonial rule in the Philippines.

Yuh Woon-Hyung - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Oh yeah, North Korea is bad, all right, no doubt about it

So is this



So, you found a list and posted it without stopping to think about even one item on it, huh? You were in such a hurry to try and draw a moral equivalency between North Korea and the US that you just couldn't help yourself, huh?

:cuckoo:

I don't think it takes much argument that N Korea is a freaking authoritarian nightmare, do you?

Their prison camps are ECONOMIC UNITS designed to make their elite wealthier.

So are ours, lad, so are ours.

Ours just aren't quite SO bad....yet.

If for-profit prisons in this nation don't upset you more than those for-profit in North Korea?

Why don't they?

Do you care more about the N Koreans than you do about your fellow citizens?

If so, why?

No, our prisions are designed to keep away from me the guy who wants to boost my ipad, rape my sister, or murder me for my wallet.

You cannot compare a criminal system run by an independent judiciary, created by popularly elected officials, and run by executive organizations popularly elected by the people with a totalitarian regime.

As an aside, I am a fan of gradual legallization of lesser drugs like pot and shrooms, and moving money to treatment instead incarceration. However the laws are on the books now, and if you dont want to be in jail, dont break them.

Who runs a prision does not concern me, as long as the executive/legislative/judical branches of the the government running the prisions maintains overall control.
 
No, our prisions are designed to keep away from me the guy who wants to boost my ipad, rape my sister, or murder me for my wallet.

V
iolent crime was not responsible for the quadrupling of the incarcerated population in the United States from 1980 to 2003. Violent crime rates had been relatively constant or declining over those decades. The prison population was increased primarily by public policy changes causing more prison sentences and lengthening time served, e.g. through mandatory minimum sentencing, "three strikes" laws, and reductions in the availability of parole or early release. These policies were championed as protecting the public from serious and violent offenders, but instead yielded high rates of confinement for nonviolent offenders. Nearly three quarters of new admissions to state prison were convicted of nonviolent crimes. 49 percent of sentenced state inmates were held for violent offenses. Perhaps the single greatest force behind the growth of the prison population has been the national "war on drugs." The number of incarcerated drug offenders has increased twelvefold since 1980. In 2000, 22 percent of those in federal and state prisons were convicted on drug charges. [24][25]

You cannot compare a criminal system run by an independent judiciary, created by popularly elected officials, and run by executive organizations popularly elected by the people with a totalitarian regime.

I just did.


And while there ARE major differences? When it comes to FOR PROFIT PRISONS, there is NO difference.

For profit prisons are the HALLMARK of a police state, dude.

As an aside, I am a fan of gradual legallization of lesser drugs like pot and shrooms, and moving money to treatment instead incarceration. However the laws are on the books now, and if you dont want to be in jail, dont break them.

That's nice.
Who runs a prision does not concern me, as long as the executive/legislative/judical branches of the the government running the prisions maintains overall control.

Well, who runs prisons AND WHY really ought to concern you.

When you motivate a government to put people in for profit prisons shit like this happens:

Pennsylvania rocked by 'jailing kids for cash' scandal - CNN

This could be YOUR kid, amigo.
 
No, our prisions are designed to keep away from me the guy who wants to boost my ipad, rape my sister, or murder me for my wallet.

V
iolent crime was not responsible for the quadrupling of the incarcerated population in the United States from 1980 to 2003. Violent crime rates had been relatively constant or declining over those decades. The prison population was increased primarily by public policy changes causing more prison sentences and lengthening time served, e.g. through mandatory minimum sentencing, "three strikes" laws, and reductions in the availability of parole or early release. These policies were championed as protecting the public from serious and violent offenders, but instead yielded high rates of confinement for nonviolent offenders. Nearly three quarters of new admissions to state prison were convicted of nonviolent crimes. 49 percent of sentenced state inmates were held for violent offenses. Perhaps the single greatest force behind the growth of the prison population has been the national "war on drugs." The number of incarcerated drug offenders has increased twelvefold since 1980. In 2000, 22 percent of those in federal and state prisons were convicted on drug charges. [24][25]



I just did.


And while there ARE major differences? When it comes to FOR PROFIT PRISONS, there is NO difference.

For profit prisons are the HALLMARK of a police state, dude.

As an aside, I am a fan of gradual legallization of lesser drugs like pot and shrooms, and moving money to treatment instead incarceration. However the laws are on the books now, and if you dont want to be in jail, dont break them.

That's nice.
Who runs a prision does not concern me, as long as the executive/legislative/judical branches of the the government running the prisions maintains overall control.

Well, who runs prisons AND WHY really ought to concern you.

When you motivate a government to put people in for profit prisons shit like this happens:

Pennsylvania rocked by 'jailing kids for cash' scandal - CNN

This could be YOUR kid, amigo.

As long as the LEGAL system is not for profit, it does not matter if the incarceration is. Even more so if the incarceration is on a cost plus fixed fee basis.
 
"Racial disparities in convictions and sentencing in the United States criminal justice system have been widely documented.[1][2] Experts and analysts have debated the relative importance of different factors that have led to these disparities.[3][4] Minority defendants are charged with crimes requiring a mandatory minimum prison sentence more often, leading to large racial disparities in incarceration."

The LEGAL system in the US is designed to warehouse superfluous individuals.
For-profit incarceration merely serves to enhance investor class incomes.

Race in the United States criminal justice system - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
"Racial disparities in convictions and sentencing in the United States criminal justice system have been widely documented.[1][2] Experts and analysts have debated the relative importance of different factors that have led to these disparities.[3][4] Minority defendants are charged with crimes requiring a mandatory minimum prison sentence more often, leading to large racial disparities in incarceration."

The LEGAL system in the US is designed to warehouse superfluous individuals.
For-profit incarceration merely serves to enhance investor class incomes.

Race in the United States criminal justice system - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So you want the guy who breaks into your house to take your 51" Plasma on the street and able to it again?

This country has criminals. Criminals need to be in prision. Dont want to go to prison? Dont try to boost my 07' Sentra.
 

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