Non union labor reform

[DaGoose]

The point isn't even the OSHA crap. And i have disability and life insurance, and like workers comp they do not make up for lack of limb or lack of pulse.

The point is, shouldn't there be more laws regarding rights of employees protecting them from even mildly excessive work hours, I don't work 6 days a week four hours a day, I am at work for 8 1/2 hours 6 and 7 days a week because the only law requires overtime pay. There aren't even laws requiring breaks, just law that require the employee be paid for breaks that are 20 minutes or less.

The point I was making was that, contrary to your statement, OSHA and the DOL do look out for the rights and safety of the workers.

Now, going back to your OP, why is it that you cannot get another job, unless you're just referring to the market and economy?

And, BTW, I can really feel for you. I have family in similar situations. The reason companies do these things is because they can get away with it for now. And even though I respect your ani-union stance I also disagree with it. I was in the same situation in a non-union coal mine, got laid off and lucked out by getting a union power plant job where I have been more than 30 years.

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[Leweman]

8 1/2 hours? Thats not too bad. You should get sunday off at least. I know the military has it much worse but I suppose we shouldnt be basing working conditions on the military standard.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Workers comp doesn't make up for permanent disability or death.

Yeah, but STD, LTD and Life insurance do.. all of which I have on my own nickel.

 

[sinister59]

I think in all fairness non-union works should not get union benefits ,
no equal pay or well anything the union fought for .

why should they ?

no-union works should get what ever the employer want to pay them .
not what others sacrifice for .
that just socialism .

 

[initforme]

Find any way you can to work less hard. They want to exploit you? SLow it down....do what you have to...no more. Words of wisdom. They dont OWN you and you owe them NOTHING but a days work of steady work. To go out and kill yourself for these elitist owners will get you nothing. Not even a pat on the back.

 

[sinister59]

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Find any way you can to work less hard. They want to exploit you? SLow it down....do what you have to...no more. Words of wisdom. They dont OWN you and you owe them NOTHING but a days work of steady work. To go out and kill yourself for these elitist owners will get you nothing. Not even a pat on the back.

without a union to back you up you will have to change your attitude, there's nothing to protect you .

if you want your job shut up and get back to work , you really think you'd have rights ?
their attitude is we pay you , you do it . no matter what

 

[Intense]

I think in all fairness non-union works should not get union benefits ,
no equal pay or well anything the union fought for .

why should they ?

no-union works should get what ever the employer want to pay them .
not what others sacrifice for .
that just socialism .

Nor should Non Union Workers be Taxed to Pay for Union Benefits. You want better Labor Laws, make that happen, not just for the Self Sanctified Elect, who treat the rest of us like Shit. Fuck Union Imperialism.

 

[DaGoose]

I think in all fairness non-union works should not get union benefits ,
no equal pay or well anything the union fought for .

why should they ?

no-union works should get what ever the employer want to pay them .
not what others sacrifice for .
that just socialism .

Nor should Non Union Workers be Taxed to Pay for Union Benefits. You want better Labor Laws, make that happen, not just for the Self Sanctified Elect, who treat the rest of us like Shit. Fuck Union Imperialism.

That's easy. Just vote out the politicians who negotiate with the unions. Otherwise STFU and pay the poor bastards who work for you, the taxpayer.

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[Sallow]

I'm anti-union but I work for a company that routinely bends us over and gives us the metophorical shaft. I'm tired of being exploited but they will continue to take advantage of the high unemployment rate knowing that they can do whatever they want while still maintaining a low turnover. We can't negotiate a raise, we only get two days off a month now, but even before i would only get four. Does anyone agree that their should be a law protecting employees from predatory employment practices that are little more then slavery, excpecially since my only other option would be to quit.

One good example of the reform is a ban on mandatory over-time. It would force companies to offer their own incentives for coming in after the original forty hour agreement, not just over-time pay(which I would PAY just to get a weekend off)

To answer your stupid questions

1. No I can't get another job.
2 I can't get another job because I'm lucky to have this one (or unlucky to have been tricked into it by free health care)
3. Missing days leads to getting fired and the days alotted are the equal to those who only ever work 40 hours a week. 10 points a year 40 hrs a week.= 10 points a year 48-56 hrs a week. Not fair.

Let me get this straight: You're getting free healthcare and overtime pay, but you're whining because they insist that you work overtime?

I've got news for you, chump: many people would be happy to work all the overtime they could get.

Yep..just like corporations should be happy to sell their products, never raise their prices, merge with other corporations, seek labor outside the country that is cheaper, advocate for government grants and contracts and send in lobbyists to lower taxes.

They should be just happy to sell their products.

Out-fucking-standing.

 

[Sallow]

I think in all fairness non-union works should not get union benefits ,
no equal pay or well anything the union fought for .

why should they ?

no-union works should get what ever the employer want to pay them .
not what others sacrifice for .
that just socialism .

Nor should Non Union Workers be Taxed to Pay for Union Benefits. You want better Labor Laws, make that happen, not just for the Self Sanctified Elect, who treat the rest of us like Shit. Fuck Union Imperialism.

Union Imperialism..
Bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha..

That's rich.

Show me where the US has EVER sent in the military to protect Union interests.

Because I SURE as heck..can show you where and when the US has sent in the military to protect corporate interests.

 

[Harry Dresden]

And make sure to always vote republican because they have the workers best interests at heart.

yea im sure Democrats do too......

 

[Sallow]

And make sure to always vote republican because they have the workers best interests at heart.

yea im sure Democrats do too......

Actually..yeah.

They do.

 

[sinister59]

I think in all fairness non-union works should not get union benefits ,
no equal pay or well anything the union fought for .

why should they ?

no-union works should get what ever the employer want to pay them .
not what others sacrifice for .
that just socialism .

Nor should Non Union Workers be Taxed to Pay for Union Benefits. You want better Labor Laws, make that happen, not just for the Self Sanctified Elect, who treat the rest of us like Shit. Fuck Union Imperialism.

you lost me , how are nonunion workes tax to pay union dues ?

expklain , they don't pay union dues or join no taxs are give to unions for anything .

you post is confusing .
you don't pay unions so you should get nothing they fougfht for . but no one taxs no-union to pay the unions grow up .

 

[Harry Dresden]

And make sure to always vote republican because they have the workers best interests at heart.

yea im sure Democrats do too......

Actually..yeah.

They do.

only if something is in it for them.....otherwise....yea im sure they do.....

 

[Intense]

I think in all fairness non-union works should not get union benefits ,
no equal pay or well anything the union fought for .

why should they ?

no-union works should get what ever the employer want to pay them .
not what others sacrifice for .
that just socialism .

Nor should Non Union Workers be Taxed to Pay for Union Benefits. You want better Labor Laws, make that happen, not just for the Self Sanctified Elect, who treat the rest of us like Shit. Fuck Union Imperialism.

That's easy. Just vote out the politicians who negotiate with the unions. Otherwise STFU and pay the poor bastards who work for you, the taxpayer.

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Fuck People who have the need to tell others to shut the Fuck up. Value for value, Shit Head.

 

[Intense]

I think in all fairness non-union works should not get union benefits ,
no equal pay or well anything the union fought for .

why should they ?

no-union works should get what ever the employer want to pay them .
not what others sacrifice for .
that just socialism .

Nor should Non Union Workers be Taxed to Pay for Union Benefits. You want better Labor Laws, make that happen, not just for the Self Sanctified Elect, who treat the rest of us like Shit. Fuck Union Imperialism.

Union Imperialism..
Bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha..

That's rich.

Show me where the US has EVER sent in the military to protect Union interests.

Because I SURE as heck..can show you where and when the US has sent in the military to protect corporate interests.

It's called State Capitalism, Comrade Bone Head, and it Put's every Soul not getting a State Paycheck on the Menu Parasite. Get a clue.

 

[DaGoose]

Nor should Non Union Workers be Taxed to Pay for Union Benefits. You want better Labor Laws, make that happen, not just for the Self Sanctified Elect, who treat the rest of us like Shit. Fuck Union Imperialism.

That's easy. Just vote out the politicians who negotiate with the unions. Otherwise STFU and pay the poor bastards who work for you, the taxpayer.

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Fuck People who have the need to tell others to shut the Fuck up. Value for value, Shit Head.

What would YOU know about "value for value"? And anytime people agree to work for you, the taxpayer, for certain agreed upon wages and benefits, then you start complaining about having to pay for that labor, then you really need to STFU and pay the people who work their asses off for you.

Bottom line? They do the work and through your elected reps you agreed to the wages and benefits. PAY THE POOR BASTARDS picking up your garbage and teaching your kids and stop your complaining.

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[DaGoose]

Nor should Non Union Workers be Taxed to Pay for Union Benefits. You want better Labor Laws, make that happen, not just for the Self Sanctified Elect, who treat the rest of us like Shit. Fuck Union Imperialism.

Union Imperialism..
Bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha..

That's rich.

Show me where the US has EVER sent in the military to protect Union interests.

Because I SURE as heck..can show you where and when the US has sent in the military to protect corporate interests.

It's called State Capitalism, Comrade Bone Head, and it Put's every Soul not getting a State Paycheck on the Menu Parasite. Get a clue.

You hired them, they did the work and now you need to pay them.

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[Intense]

Union Imperialism..
Bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha..

That's rich.

Show me where the US has EVER sent in the military to protect Union interests.

Because I SURE as heck..can show you where and when the US has sent in the military to protect corporate interests.

It's called State Capitalism, Comrade Bone Head, and it Put's every Soul not getting a State Paycheck on the Menu Parasite. Get a clue.

You hired them, they did the work and now you need to pay them.

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Who are you talking to here, your shadow. I don't break agreements. I don't hold people hostage either, or charge them for goods or services they never received.

 

[digger]

I'm anti-union but I work for a company that routinely bends us over and gives us the metophorical shaft. I'm tired of being exploited but they will continue to take advantage of the high unemployment rate knowing that they can do whatever they want while still maintaining a low turnover. We can't negotiate a raise, we only get two days off a month now, but even before i would only get four. Does anyone agree that their should be a law protecting employees from predatory employment practices that are little more then slavery, excpecially since my only other option would be to quit.

One good example of the reform is a ban on mandatory over-time. It would force companies to offer their own incentives for coming in after the original forty hour agreement, not just over-time pay(which I would PAY just to get a weekend off)

To answer your stupid questions

1. No I can't get another job.
2 I can't get another job because I'm lucky to have this one (or unlucky to have been tricked into it by free health care)
3. Missing days leads to getting fired and the days alotted are the equal to those who only ever work 40 hours a week. 10 points a year 40 hrs a week.= 10 points a year 48-56 hrs a week. Not fair.

Hahahaha!

You're anti union but you want the things unions have won for you? Crush the unions and then turn to the government to protect you? You're dreaming. The government won't lift a finger to protect workers unless it's forced to. And who's gonna force it to? The unions.

Are you trolling or what?