“Noble People of Afghanistan”

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    1. "ASADABAD, Afghanistan — Shakila, 8 at the time, was drifting off to sleep when a group of men carrying AK-47s barged in through the door. She recalls that they complained, as they dragged her off into the darkness, about how their family had been dishonored and about how they had not been paid.

    2. ...abducted along with her cousin as part of a traditional Afghan form of justice known as “baad,” was the payment....the taking of girls as payment for misdeeds committed by their elders still appears to be flourishing.

    3. The reaction of the girl’s father to the abduction also illustrates the difficulty in trying to change such a deeply rooted cultural practice: he expressed fury that she was abducted because, he said, he had already promised her in marriage to someone else.

    4. “They put us in a dark room with stone walls; it was dirty and they kept beating us with sticks ....baad is pervasive in rural southern and eastern Afghanistan, areas that are heavily Pashtun, according to human rights workers, women’s advocates and aid experts. Baad involves giving away a young woman, often a child, into slavery and forced marriage.

    5. For the entire year or so that they were kept, neither girl was given a fresh set of clothes. For the first six months they were not even allowed to wash the ones they arrived in,..."
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/17/w...ized-for-elders-crimes.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1

    And, a related story...

    6. "Kabul, Afghanistan (21 Feb.) -- General John R. Allen, commander of the International Security Assistance Force, today issued the following statement:

    To the noble people of Afghanistan –

    7. I offer my sincere apologies for any offense this may have caused, to the President of Afghanistan, the Government of the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan, and most importantly, to the noble people of Afghanistan."
    General Allen, Commander ISAF issued the following statement: | ISAF - International Security Assistance Force
     
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    I wouldn't go as far as to the call the people of Afghanistan "noble".
     
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    She's being sarcastic. Yet completely overlooks that Afghanistan is the result of the intervention of countries much more "advanced" then itself.

    You know, "White man's burden".

    Good job boys.

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    I'm sickened when I hear these politician-generals.....



    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8F7nyYMB27g&feature=related]Nato General apologises profusely for alleged Koran desecrations - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    Help me to understand...are you a "Blame America Firster" or simply another apologist for horrid behavior?


    Moral relativism will do that to ya'.....
     
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    I got my first indication of how noble these folks were when I read Phyllis Chesler's "Death of Feminism."

    Dr. Chesler married an Aghani upper class American-educated man, but as soon as they got back to Afghanistan, she was put in purdah.

    Bet you know what purdah is....
     
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    Well its protocol for the Generals to apologize this has created a huge shit storm in Afghanistan, this had made life harder than it has to be for all our troops over there. I wouldn't have called those fools "noble" though.
     
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    Yup.

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    Shit!!! It makes me want to change my vacation plans. :eusa_drool: My Favorite Holiday falls on October 31st. It's like that everyday there?

    Why are we still there, again???
     
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    As far as I know its to train the Afghan security forces and Military to take our places, although those bastards shoot at us as well.
     

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