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of course you don't mention Arafat.
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Nobel Prize insults Obama
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of course you don't mention Arafat.
Ozmar
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Harry Truman! He should have gotten the Nobel Prize...
Wait a minute! Cold War!
Seein' as you're an Aussie and all...I'll give you a pass on it this time, but for future reference...Harry Truman was a Democrat...and a great man.
Oops. Ok, Eisenhower.
Avorysuds
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Next year’s Nobel Prize goes to anyone that votes for a Democrat!!
Anyway Rightwinger, many of my friends that were “very” pro Obama looked at the ground and said “yeeeeah, it’s kinda weird Obama won the Nobel Prize…” (That’s what we call being embarrassed.)
As I keep saying about RW… He is a plant to make the Democratic Party look like a bunch of Rtards. Fat boiz like RW just don’t impress like they used to.
Anyway Rightwinger, many of my friends that were “very” pro Obama looked at the ground and said “yeeeeah, it’s kinda weird Obama won the Nobel Prize…” (That’s what we call being embarrassed.)
As I keep saying about RW… He is a plant to make the Democratic Party look like a bunch of Rtards. Fat boiz like RW just don’t impress like they used to.
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CMike
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Carter, Gore, Obama all Nobel Prize Winners
Rather than reflect on why Republicans are not doing what is necessary to win Nobel Prizes, why do they just say "Nobel is not that big a deal"??
Sore losers??
Wow Liberals award Liberals prizes.
Such a shocker.
Who has ever acknowledged the Republicans contribution to world peace?
Nobody???
That is what happens when you sell out your Party to Conservatives
Once again you forgot Arafat.You assume incorectly that the nobel peace price has any legitimacy.
It gave a nobel peace prize to the most notorious terrorist in the world, Arafat.
It also gave one to Obama, before he even did anything yet.
It also gave one for AlGore for his hoax.
I think it's an insult to get the nobel peace prize. It's has been given to hard leftists, and terrorists.
CMike
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Al Gore won as well with some nonsense about global climate change and how the sky is falling or some such nonsense....that tells me all I need to know about the nominating committee....You throw it in our face that no Republican won it....I'm glad for that you kiddin.
Just like Communist China doesn't think the Nobel Peace Prize is noteworthy.
The Nobel frequently goes to those who resist the Communist Regime (Lech Walensa, Dali Llama, Lio Xiobo) just like it goes to Americans who resist the Republican agenda (Jimmy Carter, Al Gore, Obama)
And Arafat
CMike
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Let's look at Arafat's contribution to world peace
Arafat Terrorism
Orders for Terrorist Attacks Come from Arafat's HQ
Yasser Arafat's record of not fighting terror was a cause of concern and consternation for the Israeli military soon after the Oslo Accords were signed in 1993. When Arafat entered the Gaza Strip in 1994, he already smuggled two PLO operatives with their weapons inside his Mercedes limousine.1 In 1998, Maj.-Gen. Moshe Ya'alon, then head of military intelligence, noted: "Sadly, I cannot say that at any point since it entered the territory, in May 1994, that the Palestinian Authority acted decisively and in a clear-cut way against the terrorist operational capability of Hamas, as well as Islamic Jihad."2
On September 28, 2003, military intelligence head Maj.-Gen. Aharon Zeevi-Farkash disclosed that orders for terrorist attacks are still emanating from Yasser Arafat's Ramallah compound. While not saying that Arafat himself is ordering terrorist attacks, it is extremely unlikely that these communications for operations against Israelis would be permitted without Arafat's knowledge and approval.3
The international community has been debating the Israeli Cabinet's decision to remove Arafat. A broad international consensus has arisen that Arafat is an obstacle to peace. Even France's President Jacques Chirac recently said, "Arafat is responsible for the failure, for all the failures, because he always wanted a little more."4 Nonetheless, it is far less accepted that Arafat, in fact, is personally responsible for much of the ongoing terrorism.
It is imperative that Israel's moves against Arafat be seen against the backdrop of cumulative acts that he has committed, and not just omissions in complying with his commitments to fight terrorism. Should Israel actually move against Arafat, let us understand the reasons for such action:
Arafat Authorized Hamas and Islamic Jihad Attacks
During March 9-13, 1997 (and perhaps earlier), Arafat met personally in Gaza with the leaders of Hamas and other militant groups, and gave them the "green light" to resume terrorist attacks. Following those meetings, Chief of Staff Lt.-Gen. Amnon Lipkin-Shahak told Israel Radio on March 23, 1997: "Organizations such as Hamas and Islamic Jihad have an understanding from the Palestinian Authority to carry out attacks." After the outbreak of the violence in September 2000, Hamas, Islamic Jihad, and Fatah coordinated together under the umbrella of the "Nationalist and Islamic Forces," led by Fatah.
Arafat Finances Suicide Bombings
In a memorandum captured in Operation Defensive Shield, the Secretary-General of the Fatah office in Tulkarm requested that Arafat provide $2,000 to each of 15 specifically named "Fighting Brethren" of the Tanzim military wing of Fatah. According to Israeli military sources, each of the "fighters" was involved in the planning or execution of suicide attacks. With his own signature in Arabic, Arafat authorized the payment of $800 to each of the "fighters" on April 5, 2001.
Arafat Finances Terrorist Attacks
On September 19, 2001, Arafat personally approved a request for payment of $600 to three people including Ra'ad Karmi, commander of the Tanzim in Tulkarm, who was personally involved in at least 25 shooting attacks against Israelis. Arafat funded Karmi even though Israel had placed Karmi on its "most-wanted" list just three months earlier.5 On the same day, Arafat approved payment to Amar Qadan, a member of his own Force-17 "Presidential Guard," who was involved in terrorist operations.
A second request was faxed to Arafat to fund 12 more terrorists. According to Colonel Miri Eisin of the IDF Intelligence Branch, "Every single one of them was on our wanted list...these are Tanzim members, which is Arafat's own party."6 Arafat knew well that these individuals were involved in terrorism. Nevertheless, on January 7, 2002, "Arafat himself - in his handwriting, with his signature...agreed to pay the money."7
On January 17, 2002, two and a half weeks later, a Palestinian killed six Israelis and wounded twenty-six at a bat-mitzvah party in Hadera, initiated and planned by one of those on Arafat's list Mansur Saleh Sharim, who was already responsible for the deaths of at least three Israelis. Senior Fatah figures in Israeli custody, like Marwan Barghouti, admitted subsequently that Arafat approved funding for Fatah operatives with the knowledge that it would be used to finance terrorist attacks against Israeli civilians.8
Arafat Commands the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades
While some draw a distinction between Yasser Arafat's Fatah organization and the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, Palestinians refute such assertions. The leader of the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades in Tulkarm told USA Today in March 2002: "The truth is, we are Fatah, but we didn't operate under the name of Fatah....We are the armed wing of the organization. We receive our instructions from Fatah. Our commander is Yasser Arafat himself."9
In the early months of 2002, the number of attacks by the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, including suicide bombings, exceeded those of Hamas and Islamic Jihad. On September 16, 2001, the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades requested payment to cover expenses for "production of explosive charges" from Arafat's financial confidante, Fuad Shubaki, who, as the head of the Palestinian Authority's "Armed Forces Financial Directorate," was also the mastermind behind the Karine-A weapons ship delivery from Iran. That ship also carried huge amounts of C-4 explosives that could only be used for bombing attacks against Israel.
Arafat has been a participant in, and supreme commander of, many of the Palestinians' terror activities. He has knowingly funded terrorists, both before and after they committed crimes. He has authorized plans for terror actions. What Israel has put together on Arafat's involvement in terrorism is only the tip of the iceberg; these are only the connections that have been documented in captured materials. As the mastermind of the entire September 2000 intifada, his impact has been far more widespread.10 Even though he had committed at Oslo to "put an end to decades of confrontation and conflict...and strive to live in peaceful coexistence, mutual dignity and security,"11 Arafat's actions over the past decade have proven the opposite.
On September 19, 2003, the UN General Assembly met in Emergency Special Session and adopted a resolution demanding that Israel "desist from any act of deportation and to cease any threat to the safety of the elected President of the Palestinian Authority." The UN resolution derives its legal basis from international humanitarian law in general, and the 1949 Geneva Convention Relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War (Fourth Geneva Convention). But if Arafat is not just a civilian heading a government, but is actually directing and financing military activities and terrorist attacks against Israeli civilians, he loses any protection afforded him by international law.
Arafat Terrorism
Orders for Terrorist Attacks Come from Arafat's HQ
Yasser Arafat's record of not fighting terror was a cause of concern and consternation for the Israeli military soon after the Oslo Accords were signed in 1993. When Arafat entered the Gaza Strip in 1994, he already smuggled two PLO operatives with their weapons inside his Mercedes limousine.1 In 1998, Maj.-Gen. Moshe Ya'alon, then head of military intelligence, noted: "Sadly, I cannot say that at any point since it entered the territory, in May 1994, that the Palestinian Authority acted decisively and in a clear-cut way against the terrorist operational capability of Hamas, as well as Islamic Jihad."2
On September 28, 2003, military intelligence head Maj.-Gen. Aharon Zeevi-Farkash disclosed that orders for terrorist attacks are still emanating from Yasser Arafat's Ramallah compound. While not saying that Arafat himself is ordering terrorist attacks, it is extremely unlikely that these communications for operations against Israelis would be permitted without Arafat's knowledge and approval.3
The international community has been debating the Israeli Cabinet's decision to remove Arafat. A broad international consensus has arisen that Arafat is an obstacle to peace. Even France's President Jacques Chirac recently said, "Arafat is responsible for the failure, for all the failures, because he always wanted a little more."4 Nonetheless, it is far less accepted that Arafat, in fact, is personally responsible for much of the ongoing terrorism.
It is imperative that Israel's moves against Arafat be seen against the backdrop of cumulative acts that he has committed, and not just omissions in complying with his commitments to fight terrorism. Should Israel actually move against Arafat, let us understand the reasons for such action:
Arafat Authorized Hamas and Islamic Jihad Attacks
During March 9-13, 1997 (and perhaps earlier), Arafat met personally in Gaza with the leaders of Hamas and other militant groups, and gave them the "green light" to resume terrorist attacks. Following those meetings, Chief of Staff Lt.-Gen. Amnon Lipkin-Shahak told Israel Radio on March 23, 1997: "Organizations such as Hamas and Islamic Jihad have an understanding from the Palestinian Authority to carry out attacks." After the outbreak of the violence in September 2000, Hamas, Islamic Jihad, and Fatah coordinated together under the umbrella of the "Nationalist and Islamic Forces," led by Fatah.
Arafat Finances Suicide Bombings
In a memorandum captured in Operation Defensive Shield, the Secretary-General of the Fatah office in Tulkarm requested that Arafat provide $2,000 to each of 15 specifically named "Fighting Brethren" of the Tanzim military wing of Fatah. According to Israeli military sources, each of the "fighters" was involved in the planning or execution of suicide attacks. With his own signature in Arabic, Arafat authorized the payment of $800 to each of the "fighters" on April 5, 2001.
Arafat Finances Terrorist Attacks
On September 19, 2001, Arafat personally approved a request for payment of $600 to three people including Ra'ad Karmi, commander of the Tanzim in Tulkarm, who was personally involved in at least 25 shooting attacks against Israelis. Arafat funded Karmi even though Israel had placed Karmi on its "most-wanted" list just three months earlier.5 On the same day, Arafat approved payment to Amar Qadan, a member of his own Force-17 "Presidential Guard," who was involved in terrorist operations.
A second request was faxed to Arafat to fund 12 more terrorists. According to Colonel Miri Eisin of the IDF Intelligence Branch, "Every single one of them was on our wanted list...these are Tanzim members, which is Arafat's own party."6 Arafat knew well that these individuals were involved in terrorism. Nevertheless, on January 7, 2002, "Arafat himself - in his handwriting, with his signature...agreed to pay the money."7
On January 17, 2002, two and a half weeks later, a Palestinian killed six Israelis and wounded twenty-six at a bat-mitzvah party in Hadera, initiated and planned by one of those on Arafat's list Mansur Saleh Sharim, who was already responsible for the deaths of at least three Israelis. Senior Fatah figures in Israeli custody, like Marwan Barghouti, admitted subsequently that Arafat approved funding for Fatah operatives with the knowledge that it would be used to finance terrorist attacks against Israeli civilians.8
Arafat Commands the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades
While some draw a distinction between Yasser Arafat's Fatah organization and the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, Palestinians refute such assertions. The leader of the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades in Tulkarm told USA Today in March 2002: "The truth is, we are Fatah, but we didn't operate under the name of Fatah....We are the armed wing of the organization. We receive our instructions from Fatah. Our commander is Yasser Arafat himself."9
In the early months of 2002, the number of attacks by the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, including suicide bombings, exceeded those of Hamas and Islamic Jihad. On September 16, 2001, the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades requested payment to cover expenses for "production of explosive charges" from Arafat's financial confidante, Fuad Shubaki, who, as the head of the Palestinian Authority's "Armed Forces Financial Directorate," was also the mastermind behind the Karine-A weapons ship delivery from Iran. That ship also carried huge amounts of C-4 explosives that could only be used for bombing attacks against Israel.
Arafat has been a participant in, and supreme commander of, many of the Palestinians' terror activities. He has knowingly funded terrorists, both before and after they committed crimes. He has authorized plans for terror actions. What Israel has put together on Arafat's involvement in terrorism is only the tip of the iceberg; these are only the connections that have been documented in captured materials. As the mastermind of the entire September 2000 intifada, his impact has been far more widespread.10 Even though he had committed at Oslo to "put an end to decades of confrontation and conflict...and strive to live in peaceful coexistence, mutual dignity and security,"11 Arafat's actions over the past decade have proven the opposite.
On September 19, 2003, the UN General Assembly met in Emergency Special Session and adopted a resolution demanding that Israel "desist from any act of deportation and to cease any threat to the safety of the elected President of the Palestinian Authority." The UN resolution derives its legal basis from international humanitarian law in general, and the 1949 Geneva Convention Relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War (Fourth Geneva Convention). But if Arafat is not just a civilian heading a government, but is actually directing and financing military activities and terrorist attacks against Israeli civilians, he loses any protection afforded him by international law.
CMike
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More world peace created by Arafat
Palestinian political violence - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Type Attacks
Airplane hijackings 200[65][dead link][66]
Suicide attacks 300+[67]
Attacks on foreigners 800[68][69]
Assassinations 100
Rocket attacks 9,000+[70][71]
Border attacks 2,500+[72][73][74]
Bombings 10,000
Other 15,000[18]
Palestinian political violence - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Type Attacks
Airplane hijackings 200[65][dead link][66]
Suicide attacks 300+[67]
Attacks on foreigners 800[68][69]
Assassinations 100
Rocket attacks 9,000+[70][71]
Border attacks 2,500+[72][73][74]
Bombings 10,000
Other 15,000[18]
Peres and Rabin, two of the godfathers of the criminal organization known as Israel have also won the Nobel Prize. 
That was secondary; he won for NOT being BushI can't believe that no-one has pointed-out the bleedin' obvious.
The Nobel Prize committee awarded Barack Obama the peace prize to commemorate a black man being elected President of the United States.
Pure and simple.
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Martin Luther King wins Nobel.......Racists are outraged call it a sham
Lech Walensa wins Nobel.................Soviets are outraged, call it a sham
Nelson Mandella wins Nobel...........South African Racists are outraged call it a sham
Dali Lama and Liu Xiaobo win Nobel..........Communist China outraged, calls it a sham
Jimmy Carter, Al Gore and Barack Obama wins Nobel.........Republicans outraged, call it a sham
Do I detect a trend?
Lech Walensa wins Nobel.................Soviets are outraged, call it a sham
Nelson Mandella wins Nobel...........South African Racists are outraged call it a sham
Dali Lama and Liu Xiaobo win Nobel..........Communist China outraged, calls it a sham
Jimmy Carter, Al Gore and Barack Obama wins Nobel.........Republicans outraged, call it a sham
Do I detect a trend?
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liebuster
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Martin Luther King wins Nobel.......Racists are outraged call it a sham
Lech Walensa wins Nobel.................Soviets are outraged, call it a sham
Nelson Mandella wins Nobel...........South African Racists are outraged call it a sham
Dali Lama and Liu Xiaobo win Nobel..........Communist China outraged, calls it a sham
Jimmy Carter, Al Gore and Barack Obama wins Nobel.........Republicans outraged, call it a sham
Do I detect a trend?
I'm curious. What did Obama get the prize for?
CMike
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An extreme leftist black man.I can't believe that no-one has pointed-out the bleedin' obvious.
The Nobel Prize committee awarded Barack Obama the peace prize to commemorate a black man being elected President of the United States.
Pure and simple.
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I'm curious. What did Obama get the prize for?
For becoming the most powerful black man on the planet.
How does that warrant winning the PEACE prize?
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I'm curious. What did Obama get the prize for?
For becoming the most powerful black man on the planet.
How does that warrant winning the PEACE prize?
It doesn't. Instead of awarding the most prestigious of the Nobel prizes to a deserving candidate, irrespective of race, they made a mockery of what's supposed to be the most coverted award in the world and handed it to a man for being both the newly elected president of the United States, but more importantly, because he's black. I mean, its not like he saved any lives or prevented oppression or anything, is it.
They might as well give him an Oscar for his Oval office address to the nation
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- Aug 4, 2009
- 280,963
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Martin Luther King wins Nobel.......Racists are outraged call it a sham
Lech Walensa wins Nobel.................Soviets are outraged, call it a sham
Nelson Mandella wins Nobel...........South African Racists are outraged call it a sham
Dali Lama and Liu Xiaobo win Nobel..........Communist China outraged, calls it a sham
Jimmy Carter, Al Gore and Barack Obama wins Nobel.........Republicans outraged, call it a sham
Do I detect a trend?
I'm curious. What did Obama get the prize for?
Glad you asked...
The US has had a racist history and for most of its existence has treated blacks as subhuman and second class citizens. The election of a black man in the most powerful nation on earth sent a signal to the rest of the world about racial understanding. Obama putting together the pieces to become president was a historic accomplishment
Secondly, the administration of George Bush operated on a "My way or the highway" mentality where they dictated to the world what should be done or else face the wrath of the United States. His feeble reasons for invading Iraq and subsequent embracing of torture as a means to an end was viewed as a threat to world peace. The election of Obama and his subsequent reaching out to the free world as partners in a worldwide struggle was deemed worthy of a Peace Prize
liebuster
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They chose Arafat over a Republican?
Says alot for the Republican Party
HAHA,
good job of never letting a post with out showing how much of a partisan hack you are get by.
Its a legitimate point
Why can't Republicans win Nobel Peace Prizes?
Are they that self centered? That unconcerned with the plight of others? Are they contrary to the universally accepted concepts of World Peace?
Just so you know Wilson(D) presided over WWI and Roosevelt(D) over WWII and Truman(D) over Korea and JFK(D) over Vietnam and Clinton(D) over Kosovo.
The only Republicans to start wars were the Bush's and many of us would contend that they were actually democrats. Especially GWB........
So how do you contend that the left are champions of world peace when they have presided over most of the last century's warfare?
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