Noaa says that this MAY was the second hottest since 1880

It has only been since the late 1800's that we have had enough weather stations worldwide to give a reasonable comparison of monthly records. Earlier than that, yearly, at best, is all that we can do.

Wrong. We know that ice covered all of North America 20 thousand years ago. The Earth has been warming up naturally since then. :eusa_whistle:
 
It has only been since the late 1800's that we have had enough weather stations worldwide to give a reasonable comparison of monthly records. Earlier than that, yearly, at best, is all that we can do.

Wrong. We know that ice covered all of North America 20 thousand years ago. The Earth has been warming up naturally since then. :eusa_whistle:

Your proof of which is?
 
It has only been since the late 1800's that we have had enough weather stations worldwide to give a reasonable comparison of monthly records. Earlier than that, yearly, at best, is all that we can do.

Wrong. We know that ice covered all of North America 20 thousand years ago. The Earth has been warming up naturally since then. :eusa_whistle:

Your proof of which is?

The fact that the ice has receeded nearly 2000 miles and sea level has risen almost 500 feet. Geez guy, learn something.
 
Here you can see why they chose 1880 to start world temperature comparisons. This is from the BEST study, and shows how the recording of temperature grew from a few small areas in 1800, to worldwide by 1880.

Land Temperature Anomaly Video - YouTube


I really dont think you should be quoting anything from BEST right now. other than a publicity grab press release before the BEST papers went for peer review there has been no news for almost a year. I dont know what is going on but I think it is premature to use them as a reliable source and I expect a firestorm after they publish because all the methodologies will come under public scrutiny, unlike the other temp data sets which dont have to answer to anyone. sorry, check that. UAH is constantly gone over with a fine tooth comb because it is considered a 'skeptical' source.

LOL. Ian, when Muller announced that he was going to do this study, you trumpeted how this was going to straighten out the record. Study confirmed the prior studies, now you want to disavow it. LOL
 
Wrong. We know that ice covered all of North America 20 thousand years ago. The Earth has been warming up naturally since then. :eusa_whistle:

Your proof of which is?

The fact that the ice has receeded nearly 2000 miles and sea level has risen almost 500 feet. Geez guy, learn something.

Yes, in response to the Milanchovic Cycles. And about 6000 years ago, started to trend the other way, in response to those same cycles. However, as we started to release the sequestered carbon into the atmosphere through the burning of fossil fuels, the temperatures have gone straight up.

The present state of the cryosphere is a result of that.
 
Sweatshirt weather here in New York........and its almost July!!!:badgrin::badgrin: Millions of people want to be at the beach and instead they are freezing their asses off.:D 99% of them couldnt give a rats ass about the Milanchovic Cycles.


Perception trumps science EVERY time s0ns!!! ( except to the k00ks)
 
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