NOAA Fails to Kill Oysters with MASSIVE CO2

[PredFan]

Smaller is better when it comes to oysters!

Disagree strongly, and I've had them all.

 

[daveman]

All that press about oysters not surviving a 0.04 change in PH on the West Coast due to SUVs and CO2? Put it on hold. The science is just now being done.

What we really have here is not EVIDENCE, but suspicion. And as usual in AGW science a bias towards leaping to conclusions. Couple of facts,

1) THis entire oyster dust-up is NOT about native marine life -- it's about farming. A bunch of bubbahs with a lot invested in oyster farming who can't seem to make a NON-NATIVE species grow fast enough to make a profit..

2) Tons of money available for research into OA so these farmers lock into a theory about CO2 causing their problems, alert the press, recruit the useful idiots.. GET THE F'ing MONEY! Have free diagnosis of your business problem..

3) Encourage researcher to include RIDICULOUS levels of pCO2 tolerances in their studies to guarantee the proper outcome. Sit back and wait for the magic to happen.

WHOOPS -- the plan doesn't work..

Obviously, BIGOIL clandestinely removed the dead oysters and replaced them with cybernetic robot oysters (each powered by a small 2-stroke engine) and skewed the results of the test.

Right, AGW cultists?

 

[bobgnote]

Obviously, DaveDDD learned to suck cock, to get his homework done.

Obviously, you fucktard wingpunks all got riled up, for the Roberts Lav shitload, but Fecaltoonces screwed the whole lot of you, with a bullshit study.

The only one of you ranters who is worth a shit is the dude a few pages back, who said AGW is how some people are going to make money, see also Roberts Lav, which studied shit and got paid.

 

[daveman]

Obviously, DaveDDD learned to suck cock, to get his homework done.

Obviously, you fucktard wingpunks all got riled up, for the Roberts Lav shitload, but Fecaltoonces screwed the whole lot of you, with a bullshit study.

The only one of you ranters who is worth a shit is the dude a few pages back, who said AGW is how some people are going to make money, see also Roberts Lav, which studied shit and got paid.

Obviously, DaveDDD learned to suck cock, to get his homework done.

Obviously, you fucktard wingpunks all got riled up, for the Roberts Lav shitload, but Fecaltoonces screwed the whole lot of you, with a bullshit study.

The only one of you ranters who is worth a shit is the dude a few pages back, who said AGW is how some people are going to make money, see also Roberts Lav, which studied shit and got paid.

Obviously, DaveDDD learned to suck cock, to get his homework done.

Obviously, you fucktard wingpunks all got riled up, for the Roberts Lav shitload, but Fecaltoonces screwed the whole lot of you, with a bullshit study.

The only one of you ranters who is worth a shit is the dude a few pages back, who said AGW is how some people are going to make money, see also Roberts Lav, which studied shit and got paid.

Oh, do shut up, you raging retard.

 

[bobgnote]

Hahahahaha. DaveDDD ate Fecaltoonces' shit.

Fecaltoons did what he usually does, which is to load complete SHIT, and you ate it, DDD.

Sure is peaceful, over here. I guess that shitload from Roberts Lav was good enough, for your shitload appetite, so now you have to suck a dick, with shit on it, for desert. Go get it, DDD.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Ocean acid killed the oysters, amiright?

That 30% drop in pH, right?

From CO2, right?

 

[bobgnote]

No, it was the ONE TIME CrosstardPunk didn't go down to the wharf, to suck dicks and spit the spunk into the water.

Crosstard will probably get back to work, and the pH of the ocean will stay more basic.

 

[flacaltenn]

Ocean acid killed the oysters, amiright?

That 30% drop in pH, right?

From CO2, right?

I won't believe it until Lucy Lawless and SpongeBob tells me it's true..

And the Seattle Times runs a front section article entitled "CO2 not likely responsible for Oyster Farming Mortalities"..

 

[bobgnote]

Epic FAIL, Log Cabin Club queerboys!

The study went after CO2 concentrations, in an environment not like that, in the ocean.

Then they studied known mortality temperature, not acidity levels and acidic affinity, of cold water. They cooked their oysters, YOU FUCKING QUEER RETARD. Read your study, Fecaltoons!

Read! When you load graphs, make sure the plots are labeled, faggot.

 

[koshergrl]

Epic FAIL, Log Cabin Club queerboys!

The study went after CO2 concentrations, in an environment not like that, in the ocean.

Then they studied known mortality temperature, not acidity levels and acidic affinity, of cold water. They cooked their oysters, YOU FUCKING QUEER RETARD. Read your study, Fecaltoons!

Read! When you load graphs, make sure the plots are labeled, faggot.

 

[Peach]

Epic FAIL, Log Cabin Club queerboys!

The study went after CO2 concentrations, in an environment not like that, in the ocean.

Farms tell nothing about the natural population, harvesting days continue to decline, in the NATURAL environment. The warmer waters spread bacteria, CO2 isn't the primary problem:

Influence of Water Temperature and Salinity on Vibrio vulnificus in Northern Gulf and Atlantic Coast Oysters (Crassostrea virginica)

 

[koshergrl]

Cripes don't confuse them with facts, Peach!

 

[bobgnote]

Farms tell nothing about the natural population, harvesting days continue to decline, in the NATURAL environment. The warmer waters spread bacteria, CO2 isn't the primary problem:

Influence of Water Temperature and Salinity on Vibrio vulnificus in Northern Gulf and Atlantic Coast Oysters (Crassostrea virginica)

Ocean temperatures will one day reach 26 C, a lot of the time. Salinity will be attacked, by melt-water and rain. When that happens, NOBODY will get to eat oysters.

Vulnificus isn't the operative problem. Notice your study is dated 1998.

More urgently, CO2 is exchanging from the atmosphere, to the ocean water, to make carbonic acid. This acidification has roughly increased, from pH 8.2 to pH 8.1, since the 1800s, which is about 30% increase, in acidity.

But cold water has an affinity, for carrying higher concentrations of acid, so some cold ocean water gets to pH 7.7. Upwelling cold water sometimes invades oyster farms, so die-offs happen, when the oyster larvae can't form shells.

Fresh water invasion sometimes contributes, to this phenomenon, since fresh water is pH 7. But rain which falls can be pH 5.5, by the time it hits the ground, from absorption, of CO2, on the way down.

The problem with the study in the OP is nobody intended to make sure the reaction of CO2 + H2O ~~~~> H2CO3 ~~~~> CaCO3 + OH- was operating, and at what temperatures the acid was borne, to the oysters. The study was bullshit, by geeks, the "Roberts Lab," trying to bilk the NOAA. But Fecaltoons and his idiots, including Hitlergirl lorded the moment, like they'd discovered sitting on thumbs could lead to spinning events.

When water temperatures increase, and they will, vulnificus will take oysters, out of the food chain. For now, aragonite-shelled oysters and corals are at risk, since the aragonite version of CaCO3 dissolves, more readily.

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