No wonder Russia agreed with the New Start treaty

every past president and every past secretary of state agreed with it, too.

man you guys are p'nuts.

Who needs nukes? The new Russian bomb is not a nuke. So why not agree to a no nuke or reduced Nuclearer world when you do not need nukes anymore.
 
every past president and every past secretary of state agreed with it, too.

man you guys are p'nuts.

If so, does that mean it's beyond discussion? Automatically right?

Seems to me that those same people had a whole lot of faith in Russian political change, yet that doesn't seem to be real either:

Mikhail Khodorkovsky Verdict: The End to Russian Democracy - The Daily Beast

The End to Russian Democracy

by David Satter

The sentence of Russian businessman Mikhail Khodorkovsky this week is a tragedy that signals Russia’s political corruption.

Despite criticism from the U.S. and an appeal on Friday by Mikhail Khodorkovsky’s lawyers, it appears the former head of the Yukos Oil Company will spend as much time in the Gulag as many Stalin-era political prisoners. His sentence of 13.5 years for fraud means that he will not be a free man until 2017, if then. The presiding judge in the case said that correcting Khodorkovsky would only be possible if he was isolated from society.

In fact, however, the Putin regime is not concerned about correcting Khodorkovsky. The arrest and sentencing of Khodorkovsky made it possible to complete the transformation of Russia into a controlled society with a permanent political leadership and a president for life (Putin). It is for this reason that Putin not only hates Khodorkovsky but, to a degree, fears him. Putin cannot abide the implicit challenge that Khodorkovsky at liberty would represent...

Unlike the other Russian oligarchs, who amassed wealth in similar ways, however, Khodorkovsky realized that the Russian rules of gangster capitalism had to change if Russia was ever to be a civilized country and he took steps to transform Yukos into a modern Western company. He declared his income and introduced Western standards of accounting and governance. He also began to exercise the rights of a Western businessman, including the right to finance opposition political parties. It was this that set him on a collision course with Putin...

Khodorkovsky must now return to the Siberian labor camp where he has served his long sentence with modesty and great personal dignity. His fate is, of course, a tragedy for him and his family. But it is also a tragedy for Russia. Khodorkovsky is the object of Putin’s vindictiveness not for any crime he may have committed but for what he represents. This is not just the corruption of the Yeltsin years but also the hope for a better and more honest future.

David Satter is a senior fellow of the Hudson Institute and a fellow of the Foreign Policy Institute of the Johns Hopkins University School of Advanced International Studies (SAIS). His latest book, Haunted Ground: Russia and the Communist Past, is due out next year from the Yale University Press.
 
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i dont see how reducing nukes will harm america. its not like we and russia cant kill each other 100 times over even with the reductions
 
obama just fucked America
".....dropable-bomb..."

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, how threatening. :doubt:

Now, we're gonna have to Up-the-ante.....and, figure-out how to detect/track Russian-bombers.........with some reheated WWII-tech.

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every past president and every past secretary of state agreed with it, too.

man you guys are p'nuts.

Who needs nukes? The new Russian bomb is not a nuke. So why not agree to a no nuke or reduced Nuclearer world when you do not need nukes anymore.

yes, let's go to the opposite extreme. :rolleyes:

i think we'll be ok with 1500 nukes, don't you?
 
i dont see how reducing nukes will harm america. its not like we and russia cant kill each other 100 times over even with the reductions

Who needs nukes when you have the new bomb that russia has?
No DOUBT!!!!!

We could always tag them WMD II!!!!!!!!!!!!!

("conservatives" always did enjoy a sense-of-urgency!!! :lol: )

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"REMEMBER!! He's gotta stop, really-FAST!!!"
 
every past president and every past secretary of state agreed with it, too.

man you guys are p'nuts.

Who needs nukes? The new Russian bomb is not a nuke. So why not agree to a no nuke or reduced Nuclearer world when you do not need nukes anymore.

yes, let's go to the opposite extreme. :rolleyes:

i think we'll be ok with 1500 nukes, don't you?

Why do the numbers matter so much? What's the diff in your mind in 1500 or 2000? besides 500? How many will we have time to fire off before life as we know it comes to an end?
 

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