No tax cut extension will crash the stock market Obama thinks he revived

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Nobody is going to wait until 2011 to realize capital gains.

How big are your balls, President Pro Growth?

Delaying Tax Vote Could Crash Stock Market - Washington Whispers (usnews.com)

Failure by Congress to extend the Bush tax cuts, especially locking in the 15 percent capital gains tax rate, will spark a stock market sell off starting December 15 as investors move to lock in gains at a lower rate than the 20 percent it would jump to next year, warn analysts. [See who gets the most money from the financial industry.]

While it is unclear how bad the sell off could be, it could wipe out the year's gains, they warn.

"Capital gains tax rate will increase from 15 to 20 percent if the tax cuts are not extended. The last time the capital gains tax rate increased--on Jan. 1, 1987 from 20 to 28 percent--investors realized their gains at the lower tax rate," said Daniel Clifton at a Washington partner at Strategas Research Partners. "We would expect a similar effect this time around as investors see the tax rate going up and choose to realize their gains and incur the 15 percent tax." [See a gallery of political caricatures.]

In a memo to clients, Clifton says that the date most clients are focused on is December 15th for a deal in Congress before beginning to sell. One reason: Many stock options expire that day and investors have to act.
 
May as well be prepared, these F'ing Democrats in Congress are proven and destined failures.
 
"Friends and neighbors complain that taxes are indeed very heavy, and if those laid on by the government were the only ones we had to pay, we might the more easily discharge them; but we have many others, and much more grievous to some of us. We are taxed twice as much by our idleness, three times as much by our pride, and four times as much by our folly."- Benjamin Franklin

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What a classic piece of misunderstanding. If people are selling an asset now because they believe the sale will be taxed more heavily in the future, the underlying price of the asset doesn't change. The stock market may or may not decline in the short term as a result, but the fundamental value of the market doesn't change.

This is the kind of ill-conceived logic one gets when such a large sector of your economy is based on the speculative trading of savings.
 
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Nobody is going to wait until 2011 to realize capital gains.

How big are your balls, President Pro Growth?

Delaying Tax Vote Could Crash Stock Market - Washington Whispers (usnews.com)

Failure by Congress to extend the Bush tax cuts, especially locking in the 15 percent capital gains tax rate, will spark a stock market sell off starting December 15 as investors move to lock in gains at a lower rate than the 20 percent it would jump to next year, warn analysts. [See who gets the most money from the financial industry.]

While it is unclear how bad the sell off could be, it could wipe out the year's gains, they warn.

"Capital gains tax rate will increase from 15 to 20 percent if the tax cuts are not extended. The last time the capital gains tax rate increased--on Jan. 1, 1987 from 20 to 28 percent--investors realized their gains at the lower tax rate," said Daniel Clifton at a Washington partner at Strategas Research Partners. "We would expect a similar effect this time around as investors see the tax rate going up and choose to realize their gains and incur the 15 percent tax." [See a gallery of political caricatures.]

In a memo to clients, Clifton says that the date most clients are focused on is December 15th for a deal in Congress before beginning to sell. One reason: Many stock options expire that day and investors have to act.


Lots and lots of people will sell to avoid that tax increase.

And lots of lots of people will buy, too.

And Wall Street will make lots and lots of money because of it.
 
Its a moot point anyways. It's looking like Obama will cave on this issue too.

He's just turned out not to be very strong. C'est la vie.
 
What a classic piece of misunderstanding. If people are selling an asset now because they believe the sale will be taxed more heavily in the future, the underlying price of the asset doesn't change. The stock market may or may not decline in the short term as a result, but the fundamental value of the market doesn't change.

This is the kind of ill-conceived logic one gets when such a large sector of your economy is based on the speculative trading of savings.

What an idiot.
There is no "underlying price of an asset". A share of stock is worth what people think it is worth. If its value declines because raw materials prices are rising then it is worth less. If its value declines because higher tax rates will reduce its return, then it is worth less. There is no difference materially. Both reflect the perceived value of the asset, not any fixed intrinsic value.
 
Nobody is going to wait until 2011 to realize capital gains.

How big are your balls, President Pro Growth?

Delaying Tax Vote Could Crash Stock Market - Washington Whispers (usnews.com)

Failure by Congress to extend the Bush tax cuts, especially locking in the 15 percent capital gains tax rate, will spark a stock market sell off starting December 15 as investors move to lock in gains at a lower rate than the 20 percent it would jump to next year, warn analysts. [See who gets the most money from the financial industry.]

While it is unclear how bad the sell off could be, it could wipe out the year's gains, they warn.

"Capital gains tax rate will increase from 15 to 20 percent if the tax cuts are not extended. The last time the capital gains tax rate increased--on Jan. 1, 1987 from 20 to 28 percent--investors realized their gains at the lower tax rate," said Daniel Clifton at a Washington partner at Strategas Research Partners. "We would expect a similar effect this time around as investors see the tax rate going up and choose to realize their gains and incur the 15 percent tax." [See a gallery of political caricatures.]

In a memo to clients, Clifton says that the date most clients are focused on is December 15th for a deal in Congress before beginning to sell. One reason: Many stock options expire that day and investors have to act.

lol. The stock market went through the roof for 10 months in 1987 until the bubble burst in October.
 
The House Democrats, over almost unanimous opposition of the GOP, passed a massive tax cut yesterday.

Your a revisionist FOOL and a LIAR! If you want to say fuck the millionaires (meaning the people who make over $1 mil a year) fine, but they passed one of the largest in history tax increases on the SUCCESSFULL SMALL BUSINESS OWNER who employee the majority of Americans! The $250k-$750K that the Democrats Demonize are the exact people who create the jobs that most of us have!

Do you really thinking hitting them NOW is a good decision? I guarantee if this somehow passes in the Senate, then we see unemployment increase pass 10%, heck I think pass 11%! Some assholes might want that, because a change in government might happen, but I personally fear it!

Lastly, unlike the uneducated fool above, there is not unlining asset value of a stock. A stocks price is what people pay. Increasing the capital gains tax by a wooping 5% will decrease the value of ALL STOCKS! The stock market could be headed for another crash (not a Great Depression Crash), but a huge 1000s of points drop! :eek:
 
The House Democrats, over almost unanimous opposition of the GOP, passed a massive tax cut yesterday.

No, they agreed to not raise taxes on some Americans in the midst of economic downturn.

No, the staged a class war lovefest for the benefit of their true believers knowing that the bill was dead in the Senate. Putting form over substance has become the hallmarks of the Democrats.
 
Poor, poor rich man. Hell, give the bastards another tax break so they can ship some more factories overseas. Yep, that's the Republican ticket.

Letting people keep more of their own money is not "giving" them anything, twit.

Yet, when the Federal Government gave out tax credits as part of the stimulus, you counted it as "Spending".

Go figure.
 

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