No Swine Flu Shots For Obama Girls

[Si modo]

The answer to your question, Sinatra, was in your OP's source:

» First Daughters Not Vaccinated Against H1N1 Row 2, Seat 4 « FOXNews.com

President Obama's school age daughters have not been vaccinated against the H1N1 flu virus. White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs says the vaccine is not available to them based on their risk.

The Centers for Disease Control recommend that children ages 6 months through 18 years of age receive a vaccination against the H1N1 flu virus. At this time only children with chronic medical conditions are receiving the vaccination because their immune system is not strong enough to fight off the strain. The CDC also says a regular seasonal flu shot does not protect against the virus.

Was that so hard?

Except that is not true - the nasal spray vaccination has been available for weeks now - and people with no medical issues are able to get it. I know this firsthand now.

Therefore, the Obama's are choosing not to get vaccinations - until they do otherwise, this makes for an odd omission given the hype that the White House and others have put behind the swine flu.

Really?

....
Park Nicollet began advertising their vaccine availability early in the week, and within one day, the weekend appointments were booked up. The clinics are running extended hours until they run out.

Parents and hospital administrators are hoping more vaccine is made available soon. "From what we're seeing right now, we're thinking that this will peak in mid-November, so we're just kind of in the upward climb of it now," Sandstrom warned.

Currently only people in "Priority Group 1" are eligible. "Right now it's the first responders and health care workers, pregnant women and children six months to 18 years of age," Sandstrom said.
....

kare11.com | Twin Cities, MN | Demand gobbling up supply of H1N1 vaccine at metro clinics

 

[Fatality]

Press Secretary Robert Gibbs says the vaccine is not available to them based on their risk.

Even if they did have the vaccine available to them, they couldn't receive it due to their risks.

huh?

http://www.usmessageboard.com/1648839-post2.html

you fuckers never make sense.

so risk or no risk? sounds like a fucking game show...oh, wait...

 

[mudwhistle]

The answer to your question, Sinatra, was in your OP's source:

» First Daughters Not Vaccinated Against H1N1 Row 2, Seat 4 « FOXNews.com

President Obama's school age daughters have not been vaccinated against the H1N1 flu virus. White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs says the vaccine is not available to them based on their risk.

The Centers for Disease Control recommend that children ages 6 months through 18 years of age receive a vaccination against the H1N1 flu virus. At this time only children with chronic medical conditions are receiving the vaccination because their immune system is not strong enough to fight off the strain. The CDC also says a regular seasonal flu shot does not protect against the virus.

Was that so hard?

You focused on the wrong sentence. Inoculations, according to the CDC, "regular seasonal flu shots" are not effective against the virus. So why the push to get them out to the public in the first place?

Who's pushing all of this and who's profiting from it all.....why is the Obama Administration putting on this show.....projecting over 90,000 deaths and telling everyone to get them when the shots won't work? And the simple fact that his own kids aren't bothering to get them proves that they're worthless anyway.

 

[rightwinger]

This thread is not partisan - it simply attempts to have a question answered - why no swine flu shots for the Obama family?

I know of two families with private doctors who received the swine flu vaccine. None have already compromised health. They paid a fee and received the vaccination - simple.

I am quite certain the First Family could do the same if they felt the swine flu was a serious health concern.

I don't think they do - and on that I completely agree with them!

And in a few weeks some of you in here will agree - even if you won't admit it...

Mr Sinatra


You need to learn the difference between
"These things usually work out to be no big deal"
and
"These things always work out to be no big deal"

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Ironic they will be exempt from the new health care system also.

Obamacare is not healthy for children and other living things

 

[Emma]

It would appear the Obama's agree with many other level-headed assessments that for the vast majority of the population the swine flu is not the dire threat some have made it out to be?

Or not?


First Daughters Not Vaccinated Against H1N1

President Obama's school age daughters have not been vaccinated against the H1N1 flu virus. White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs says the vaccine is not available to them based on their risk.


» First Daughters Not Vaccinated Against H1N1 Row 2, Seat 4 « FOXNews.com

Another one who didn't post the relevant info:

At this time only children with chronic medical conditions are receiving the vaccination because their immune system is not strong enough to fight off the strain.


You fail. Again.

 

[Emma]

Press Secretary Robert Gibbs says the vaccine is not available to them based on their risk.

Sinatra can't read. Even if they did have the vaccine available to them, they couldn't receive it due to their risks.

That isn't what the article said. It said that the CDC recommended the shot to every child 6 mos to 18 years.

White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs says the vaccine is not available to them based on their risk.


The article is only 5 sentences long. Is your attention span that short?

 

[Emma]

Is this legit?

First the author notes that the CDC itself has stated swine flu infections have already peaked - and did so in mid-October. I am attempting to confirm this right now.

During week 41 (October 11-17, 2009), influenza activity increased in the U.S.

Laboratory-Confirmed Influenza-Associated Hospitalizations and Deaths National Summary

EIP Influenza Laboratory-Confirmed Cumulative Hospitalization Rates, 2009-10 and Previous 3 Seasons

Percentage of Visits for Influenza-like Illness Reported by Sentinel Providers, National Summary, 2009-10 and Previous 2 Seasons

compare this to previous week:

CDC - Seasonal Influenza (Flu) - Weekly Report: Influenza Activity Interactive Map

 

[Lonestar_logic]

I wouldn't let my kids get the flu shot either.

 

[Emma]

Is this legit?

First the author notes that the CDC itself has stated swine flu infections have already peaked - and did so in mid-October. I am attempting to confirm this right now.

CDC H1N1 Flu | Situation Update

Below is a summary of the most recent key indicators:

Visits to doctors for influenza-like illness (ILI) increased steeply since last week in the United States, and overall, are much higher than what is expected for this time of the year. ILI activity now is higher than what is seen during the peak of many regular flu seasons.

Total influenza hospitalization rates for laboratory-confirmed flu are climbing and are higher than expected for this time of year.

The proportion of deaths attributed to pneumonia and influenza (P&I) based on the 122 Cities Report has increased and has been higher than what is expected at this time of year for two weeks. In addition, 11 flu-related pediatric deaths were reported this week; 9 of these deaths were confirmed 2009 H1N1, and two were influenza A viruses, but were not subtyped. Since April 2009, CDC has received reports of 95 laboratory-confirmed pediatric 2009 H1N1 deaths and another 7 pediatric deaths that were laboratory confirmed as influenza, but where the flu virus subtype was not determined.

Forty-six states are reporting widespread influenza activity at this time. They are: Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia, Wisconsin, and Wyoming. This many reports of widespread activity are unprecedented during seasonal flu.

Almost all of the influenza viruses identified so far are 2009 H1N1 influenza A viruses. These viruses remain similar to the virus chosen for the 2009 H1N1 vaccine, and remain susceptible to the antiviral drugs oseltamivir and zanamivir with rare exception.

http://www.cdc.gov/H1n1flu/update.htm

 

[dilloduck]

Let's not kid ourselves----the presidents family can obtain the vaccine anytime they want.

1. Have they chosen not to take them ?
or
2 Are they being nice and letting some other poor at risk person take their dose ?

 

[Emma]

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=114093727&ps=cprs

October 23, 2009

Federal health officials say the U.S. is without doubt in the middle of a second swine flu wave, with the virus more widespread than ever. Since its onset in April, the 2009 H1N1 virus has caused more than 1,000 deaths and more than 20,000 hospitalizations in this country, officials from the Centers For Disease Control And Prevention said Friday. Similarly, children's deaths from flu and pneumonia have been higher than what is normally expected at this time of year.

“We expect this influenza will occur in waves,” the CDC chief said on Friday. “We can’t predict how high, how far, or how long the wave will go or when the next will come.”

Not sure where people are getting that this has peaked.

 

[Emma]

Let's not kid ourselves----the presidents family can obtain the vaccine anytime they want.

1. Have they chosen not to take them ?
or
2 Are they being nice and letting some other poor at risk person take their dose ?

They're following the current guidelines. Until the vaccine becomes more available, it's being prioritized on risk.

 

[dilloduck]

October 23, 2009

Federal health officials say the U.S. is without doubt in the middle of a second swine flu wave, with the virus more widespread than ever. Since its onset in April, the 2009 H1N1 virus has caused more than 1,000 deaths and more than 20,000 hospitalizations in this country, officials from the Centers For Disease Control And Prevention said Friday. Similarly, children's deaths from flu and pneumonia have been higher than what is normally expected at this time of year.

“We expect this influenza will occur in waves,” the CDC chief said on Friday. “We can’t predict how high, how far, or how long the wave will go or when the next will come.”

Not sure where people are getting that this has peaked.

never the less--why has the president's family opted out of being vaccinated ?

 

[Sinatra]

October 23, 2009

Federal health officials say the U.S. is without doubt in the middle of a second swine flu wave, with the virus more widespread than ever. Since its onset in April, the 2009 H1N1 virus has caused more than 1,000 deaths and more than 20,000 hospitalizations in this country, officials from the Centers For Disease Control And Prevention said Friday. Similarly, children's deaths from flu and pneumonia have been higher than what is normally expected at this time of year.

“We expect this influenza will occur in waves,” the CDC chief said on Friday. “We can’t predict how high, how far, or how long the wave will go or when the next will come.”

Not sure where people are getting that this has peaked.

never the less--why has the president's family opted out of being vaccinated ?

Indeed.

And the nasal vaccination has been available for weeks now.

And yet - no vaccination for the First Family.

 

[Sinatra]

It appears the UK has drastically reduced its swine flu projections...

___

In his weekly update for HSJ and Nursing Times, national director for NHS flu resilience Ian Dalton discusses the latest developments in UK swine flu preparations


What should NHS staff be focusing their efforts on?
We have always been clear that our response to the current pandemic will be informed by the best scientific advice. On 22 October the Cabinet Office and the Department of Health published new guidance to support pandemic planners based on the latest science and understanding of the swine flu virus. As well as our own experience, the UK can now benefit from the southern hemisphere’s experience of winter, and the impact of a pandemic as well as annual winter pressures.

The evidence suggests that the pandemic may peak at a lower rate than we originally thought. Therefore, the reasonable worst-case clinical attack rate from 1 October to mid-May 2010 has now been revised down from 30 per cent to 12 per cent for adults. For children, the reasonable worst-case clinical attack rate has been revised down from 50 per cent to 30 per cent. The reasonable worst-case number of deaths is now assumed to be 1,000. The worst-case sickness absence rate (resulting from swine flu but not other causes) in the peak weeks of the pandemic is reduced from 12 per cent to 5 per cent. The guidance can be found on the DH website.

We should welcome this latest planning guidance but must do so cautiously. That we may expect significantly fewer deaths from swine flu than the scientists originally feared can only be good news.

Ian Dalton's swine flu update - latest evidence is positive, but we must stay vigilant | Opinion | Nursing Times

 

[Sinatra]

The answer to your question, Sinatra, was in your OP's source:

» First Daughters Not Vaccinated Against H1N1 Row 2, Seat 4 « FOXNews.com



Was that so hard?

Except that is not true - the nasal spray vaccination has been available for weeks now - and people with no medical issues are able to get it. I know this firsthand now.

Therefore, the Obama's are choosing not to get vaccinations - until they do otherwise, this makes for an odd omission given the hype that the White House and others have put behind the swine flu.

Really?

....
Park Nicollet began advertising their vaccine availability early in the week, and within one day, the weekend appointments were booked up. The clinics are running extended hours until they run out.

Parents and hospital administrators are hoping more vaccine is made available soon. "From what we're seeing right now, we're thinking that this will peak in mid-November, so we're just kind of in the upward climb of it now," Sandstrom warned.

Currently only people in "Priority Group 1" are eligible. "Right now it's the first responders and health care workers, pregnant women and children six months to 18 years of age," Sandstrom said.
....

kare11.com | Twin Cities, MN | Demand gobbling up supply of H1N1 vaccine at metro clinics

You apparently can't use the nasal spray on kids under two years of age - that is where the shot comes in.

The nasal spray has been available for weeks.

The Obamas have chosen not to be vaccinated up to this point.

Perhaps the the swine flu is already dropping off - having run its rather mild flu course?



http://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/weeklyarchives2009-2010/WhoLab41.htm

 

[L.K.Eder]

October 23, 2009



“We expect this influenza will occur in waves,” the CDC chief said on Friday. “We can’t predict how high, how far, or how long the wave will go or when the next will come.”

Not sure where people are getting that this has peaked.

never the less--why has the president's family opted out of being vaccinated ?

Indeed.

And the nasal vaccination has been available for weeks now.

And yet - no vaccination for the First Family.

there can be only one explanation. the obamas are cyborgs and are immune to the flu.

 

[Sinatra]

never the less--why has the president's family opted out of being vaccinated ?

Indeed.

And the nasal vaccination has been available for weeks now.

And yet - no vaccination for the First Family.

there can be only one explanation. the obamas are cyborgs and are immune to the flu.

Or, like many Americans, they actually educated themselves as to the actual dangers of the swine flu and discovered said dangers to be minute, and thus shrugged off getting vaccinated...

 

[Hellokitty]

With all the hype and concern many parents have expressed about whether or not to vaccinate their children it seems odd that Gibbs would not have mentioned the girls will be receiving the shot when available to their school.

My children's school has been sending things home about H1N1 for going on a month now. Our district and surrounding districts were notified over a month ago that they would be offering free vaccinations to all children 2-18. A consent form came home this weekend asking which form of the vaccine parents would like to be administered to their child. The district will be administering vaccines starting this Thursday.

It should be expected for Gibbs to have know when the Obama girls school would be receiving the vaccine.
Someone should ask Gibbs if they Obama have a home stash of Tamiflu in the event they should need it.