No One Needs Traditional Fossils To Prove Evolution Because We Have Living Proof

[LittleNipper]

Evolution is a religion. Oh, it isn't the worship of GOD, but it is the a structured belief that embraces "nature" as the foundation upon which all life is a result.

That is NOT "structured" as a religion then.
Religions have places of Worship, Holy Books, Priests, etc.
Eliminating the voodoo/religionS only leaves Natural/Real explanations.

So, in fact evolutionists worship nature and see various natural occurrences as the result of man "sin" against nature.

NO, that's Pat Roberston.

The reality is that nature doesn't react to man's abuse of nature.
Nature reacts to man's ignorance of GOD, and the evils/abuses man inflicts upon himself as the direct result of such ignorance.

There is NO evidence of any "god", including WHICHever one you believe in.
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Evolutionists have books they read/write, defined ways to present evidence, places they teach/preach, and laboratories. It anything they seem much more "religiously" structured than do Christians. Prove Pat Robinson is wrong. Look at the most liberal profane, Christian undermining, places in the world and you will find the most turmoil, natural disasters, and economic crisis. Example, the practice of open reading of the Bible was disavowed in public schools. The tradition of inviting clergy to speak at commencement exercises ended and Christmas displays were censored in public schools.

The amount of money dumped into public education since that time has escalated enormously. And yet test scores diminish, and students seem to be losing the ability to think on their rationally. A high school graduate of 1950 was far more mature than many college age "children." Many college kids are now being exposed to lessons they should have gotten in high school. University students are now seeking masters degrees to prove their skills that were once only required of professors and doctors.

 

[abu afak]

Evolutionists have books they read/write, defined ways to present evidence, places they teach/preach, and laboratories. It anything they seem much more "religiously" structured than do Christians.

Im also a "Gravitationalist"
:^)

Prove Pat Robinson is wrong. Look at the most liberal profane, Christian undermining, places in the world and you will find the most turmoil, natural disasters, and economic crisis..."

WAIT!
You said Evolutionist do that.
I pointed out you were Wrong.
So now you Admit Voodoo Pat DOES Do it, NOT atheists.

The amount of money dumped into public education since that time has escalated enormously. And yet test scores diminish, and students seem to be losing the ability to think on their rationally. A high school graduate of 1950 was far more mature than many college age "children." Many college kids are now being exposed to lessons they should have gotten in high school. University students are now seeking masters degrees to prove their skills that were once only required of professors and doctors.

Clearly the portion of money spent on your edu was wasted.
You learned all your 'science' in Sunday School.
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[LittleNipper]

Evolutionists have books they read/write, defined ways to present evidence, places they teach/preach, and laboratories. If anything they seem much more "religiously" structured than do Christians.

Im also a "Gravitationalist"
:^)

Prove Pat Robinson is wrong. Look at the most liberal profane, Christian undermining, places in the world and you will find the most turmoil, natural disasters, and economic crisis..."

WAIT!
You said Evolutionist do that.
I pointed out you were Wrong.
So now you Admit Voodoo Pat DOES Do it, NOT atheists.

The amount of money dumped into public education since that time has escalated enormously. And yet test scores diminish, and students seem to be losing the ability to think on their rationally. A high school graduate of 1950 was far more mature than many college age "children." Many college kids are now being exposed to lessons they should have gotten in high school. University students are now seeking masters degrees to prove their skills that were once only required of professors and doctors.

Clearly the portion of money spent on your edu was wasted.
You learned all your 'science' in Sunday School.
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Evolutionists are agnostics at best ----- at worse openly atheistic. Teaching is not education where it's indoctrination. And science is worthless where it doesn't seek the truth even when that truth may be uncomfortable for those "politically correct" minded. Education and science should not in anyway be stifled, manipulated or corralled by Constitutional tampering by any branch of the Federal government.

There is nothing wrong with Biblical consideration as one investigates Creation, anymore than there is a problem with consideration of a secular view ------ so long as both maybe reviewed, discussed, and investigated without harassment through governmental interference.

 

[abu afak]

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[Freewill]

No One Needs Traditional Fossils To Prove Evolution Because We Have Living Proof

Another living examples of evolution other than humans are elephants of which we have elephants which have evolved into the largest land animals on the planet in Africa where as we have a much smaller version of elephant which evolved into what we call pygmy elephants in Borneo.

They are both elephants but because they had evolved in different environments, one variation of elephant has "evolved" much larger than the other quite obviously.

Asians, Indians, Africans and Caucasians as example are proof of different variations of human evolution.

The evolved variation of human known as Asians for example (aside from identical twins or triplets etc.) all look different from one another as individuals but as a whole have quite obviously evolved as humans quite differently than Indians, Africans an Caucasians. Same goes for the Indians, Africans and Caucasians. Same goes for the Indians, Africans and Caucasians. No matter how much the religious continue to exemplify deliberate ignorance towards the fact that humans have evolved into different racial variations of human, we have differently evolved variations of human living presently as proof of evolution. It is a fact which proves that the religious attempting to dictate that we need fossils to prove what living proof already reveals is quite obviously a weak pathetic cheap stereotypical religious lie because they are not able to contest with so much as a shred of validity that we have living proof of evolution.

Piece of cake and my pleasure.

It Was Never Religion Vs. Science, Fact Falsifies Religion / Proves Evolution


The religious fooled themselves and perhaps others in thinking that it ever was religion vs. science, they even created a religion to force ore rhetoric upon society called Scientology of which the facts I share prove that the big bang theory is not even a possibility as the beginning of the universe. Proof that the universe and everything throughout the universe always existed, and always will exist is that not anything goes poof into existence out of nothingness and not anything that exists goes poof into nothingness which proves an endless duration of constant change because the fact remains that it takes energy matter and time to re create energy and matter. The universe never was and will never be exactly as we recognize it now for again it undergoes and infinite of constant change. Scientology is a fine example that the religious attempt to make everything that threatens religion out to be a religion by even referring to the non religious as religious by claiming that them not believing religious lies makes them religious.

Science is the process that determines recognition of fact. Once it is a fact, it is no longer a science because for example the formula for recognizing the fact has been complete = no longer a science but a recognized fact. Through the process of science, humans at one time didn't have computers or nuclear power for example. Through the process of science, it has become recognized as fact that we have computers and nuclear power where at one time it was likely laughed at or frowned upon just like harnessing electricity.

It was never religion vs. science that matters, because what falsifies religion is fact, and yes the very fact that it takes energy matter and time to re create energy and matter is the very factual evidence which proves that the foundation of every religion is based upon lies (the foundation of a religion is the ridiculous story of how we / everything came into existence) and for some religions it is the factually proven lie that they refer to as god.

The reason that the religious can't do with fact as they did with science is because science is a process based upon belief which are referred to as such as theories, synopsis, hypothesis etc. what have you.

Facts are what falsify theories and beliefs etc. Not the other way around. Religions are based upon beliefs that are falsified by fact. The destruction of religion is inevitable no matter how much ignorance the selfish and the greedy who quite obviously value filthy religious lies more than they value human life exemplify religions only cheap pathetic defence which is ignorance towards what facts has already so very easily revealed and the facts in this instance have revealed that there is no such thing as a god, that the foundation of every religion is based upon lies and that the big bang theory as proof of our universes origin are all proven false / have been falsified by fact and it is my pleasure to have done this with the greatest of ease.

Which is why I (A Primary Factual Fundamentalist who has proven that the foundation of every religion is based upon lies, that there is no such thing a a god and that the big bang theory as proof of our universes origin is not even a possibility of which I am by far not an atheist of which who merely believes that the foundation of religion is based upon lies) keep throwing the following facts which prove that the foundation of every religion is based upon lies, that there is no such thing as a god and that the big bang theory as the beginning of the universe is not even a possibility in their face of which not one of them will ever be able to contest with so much as a shred of validity:

Many religious for example are those who claim that this lie that they refer to as god is the creator of everything. They also claim that it has intelligence hence they pray to / worship this lie. Yet the fact remains that not anything goes poof into existence out of nothingness. Not anything can develop and intelligence out of nothingness let alone make anything go poof into existence out of nothingness because the fact remains that it takes energy matter an time to re create energy and matter. Otherwise just share even just one factual example of anything going poof into existence out of nothingness. You / no one ever will share one factual example of anything going poof into existence out of nothingness which proves that even the most remote possibility of there be a god does not exist! Not anything that exists goes poof into nothingness and not anything goes poof into existence out of nothingness because the fact remains that it takes energy matter and time to re create energy and matter. Everything always was, is and always will be enduring an endless duration of constant change and the simple factual evidence which proves it is the fact that it takes energy matter and time to re create energy and matter.

Of which proves evolution and evolution only happens where life occurs. A life forms ability to adapt in order to survive along with striving to increase awareness of life's environment to better assure survival and quality of life given the circumstances of the environment the life has to work with. To spread out and grow in population no matter the species unless until it's adaptation becomes obsolete within the changing or change of environment thus no longer successful thus dies off in many cases. The purpose of life is to survive and expand in awareness of ones environment which leads to adaptation thus evolution. Just look at how many different variations of human being we have, of which are all different in reflection of the environments which differ that each type of human have evolved in including, elevation, food sources, the land scape, dangers present etc.

It is also my pleasure to remind everyone why the destruction of religion is of the up most importance for the well being of the future of the life on this planet:

Religion is the largest hate crime against humanity that ever existed!

Thousands of years of war and divide leading to the death of millions if not billions of people over factually proven foundations of religious lies along with the factual evidence that proves that the foundation of every religion is based upon lies is the most genuine reason to rid the world of religion for the well being of the future of the life on this planet. The factual evidence proving that the foundation of every religion is based upon lies is quite simply as follows. First the foundation of a religion is some ridiculous story about how we / everything came to be. If it is not based upon some ridiculous story of how we / everything came to be then it is not a religion. I notice that the religious in days of now attempt to call everything a religion in attempt to fail safe their lies buried in a manifest of yet more lies and deceptions by attempting to try and drag everyone else / everything else down to the level of their religion in attempt to use to give a false sense of justification for following any religion.

If you are religious and you want to exemplify that you value life more than you value already "factually proven" foundations of religious lies, then simply throw your religion in the garbage where every religion belongs and walk away from religion for good.

Join me in the good fight for the well being and sanity of current and future generations, for the well being of the future of the life on this planet!

love

Primary Factual Fundamentalist World Class Activist
David Jeffrey Spetch
Ps. Be good, be strong!
Hamilton Ontario Canada

I didn't read your entire cut and paste but did read the first part about the elephants. Do you realize that is not an example of evolution? Just like dog breeding is not an example of evolution. Evolution tries to explain the various between specie not necessarily why there are big an small elephants.

In other words, in my opinion, to prove evolution you need to find an animal that has half an eye.

 

[abu afak]

In other words, in my opinion, to prove evolution you need to find an animal that has Half an eye.

What a Breathtaking STUPID Kweationist strawman
A creature with Half an eye would not be viable in adaptation/survival of the fittest.
What you would, and DO get, is eyes that are more sophisticated, or more fit for that creature.
What an IDIOT you are.
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[Steven_R]

Are you saying evolution isn't like leveling up in a video game, where the changes are immediately evident and occur in one fell swoop? The devil you say!

 

[Freewill]

In other words, in my opinion, to prove evolution you need to find an animal that has Half an eye.

What a Breathtaking STUPID Kweationist strawman
A creature with Half an eye would not be viable in adaptation/survival of the fittest.
What you would, and DO get, is eyes that are more sophisticated, or more fit for that creature.
What an IDIOT you are.
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So an obvious counter to evolution such as yourself has no answer to how the human eye involved. Marvelous.

 

[abu afak]

In other words, in my opinion, to prove evolution you need to find an animal that has Half an eye.

What a Breathtaking STUPID Kweationist strawman
A creature with Half an eye would not be viable in adaptation/survival of the fittest.
What you would, and DO get, is eyes that are more sophisticated, or more fit for that creature.
What an IDIOT you are.
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So an obvious counter to evolution such as yourself has no answer to how the human eye involved. Marvelous.

You're so GD stupid it's hard to believe.
Demanding to see "Half an Eye" as proof of Evo of a whole eye?
You MORON.
Maybe you should also demand to see a one-armed man before a 2-armed one, INSTEAD of seeing/evolving from proto-human, more ape-like creatures that we DID evolve from, that ALL had 2 arms Already.. too.
You Breathtaking MORON.

as to the eye.. if you had a 60 IQ or better you could easily look it up.
Evolution of the eye - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You are SO STUPID, you are evidence of retrograde evolution.
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[David Jeffrey Spetch]

Evolution is a religion. Oh, it isn't the worship of GOD, but it is the a structured belief that embraces "nature" as the foundation upon which all life is a result. So, in fact evolutionists worship nature and see various natural occurrences as the result of man "sin" against nature. The reality is that nature doesn't react to man's abuse of nature. Nature reacts to man's ignorance of GOD, and the evils/abuses man inflicts upon himself as the direct result of such ignorance.

Evolution is proven as fact as clearly revealed within the composition beginning this very thread. Other wise go right ahead and share one factual example of anything going poof into existence out of nothingness.

Again, not anything goes poof into existence out of nothingness, develops an intelligence out of nothingness because for anything to become alive it first takes takes energy matter and time to re create energy and matter under suitable circumstances to initiate the beginnings of life and sustain life coming into existence in reflection of the environment and evolve to develop over time such things as an intellect, tolerances and even immunities as well evolve to consume different things depending upon what food sources are or are not available from environment to environment. Otherwise you go right ahead share even just one factual example of anything going poof into existence out of nothing?!! You never will.

.Many religious for example are those who claim that this lie that they refer to as god is the creator of everything. They also claim that it has intelligence hence they pray to / worship this lie.

Yet the fact remains that not anything goes poof into existence out of nothingness. Not anything can develop and intelligence out of nothingness let alone make anything go poof into existence out of nothingness because the fact remains that it takes energy matter an time to re create energy and matter. Otherwise just share even just one factual example of anything going poof into existence out of nothingness. You / no one ever will share one factual example of anything going poof into existence out of nothingness which proves that even the most remote possibility of there be a god does not exist! Not anything that exists goes poof into nothingness and not anything goes poof into existence out of nothingness because the fact remains that it takes energy matter and time to re create energy and matter. Everything always was, is and always will be enduring an endless duration of constant change and the simple factual evidence which proves it is the fact that it takes energy matter and time to re create energy and matter.

love

Primary Factual Fundamentalist World Class Activist
David Jeffrey Spetch
Ps. Be good, be strong!
Hamilton Ontario Canada

Define evolution! What does evolution mean to you exactly?

The beginning of life and how life progresses from the beginning.

I am no Evolutionist by the way, I am the Primary Factual Fundamentalist that has shared the factual evidence proving evolution is not a theory but a fact. The same factual evidence proves that there is no such thing as a god, proves that the big bang theory as the beginning of the universe isn't even a possibility, proves that the foundation of every religion is based upon lies.

How do I know this, not anything goes poof into existence out of nothingness, let alone can develop an intelligence out of nothingness because the fact remains that it takes energy matter and time to re create energy and matter. Go ahead and share one factual example of anything going poof into existence out of nothingness to contest what I share with so much as a shred of validity.

love

Primary Factual Fundamentalist World Class Activist
David Jeffrey Spetch
Ps. Be good, be strong!
Hamilton Ontario Canada

 

[Old Rocks]

you're using evolution in the place of adaptation.

It's a common error among the more hateful and ignorant of humans.

And you have not the faintest idea of what either word means in a biological context. Typical of the willfully ignorant.

 

[Two Thumbs]

you're using evolution in the place of adaptation.

It's a common error among the more hateful and ignorant of humans.

And you have not the faintest idea of what either word means in a biological context. Typical of the willfully ignorant.

after the TK event, the only mammals were small underground rodents.

for evolution to have any basis in fact, we should have more rat dna comparisons than chimp.


evolution is a religion that requires as much faith as creation

 

[abu afak]

after the TK event, the only mammals were small underground rodents.
for evolution to have any basis in fact, we should have more rat dna comparisons than chimp.
evolution is a religion that requires as much faith as creation

WTF is that?
Another Breathtaking MORON.
Why should we have more Rat than Chimp DNA?
We BOTH evolved Tens of millions of years LATER from/into the Primate Branch of the mammal tree.
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[Two Thumbs]

after the TK event, the only mammals were small underground rodents.
for evolution to have any basis in fact, we should have more rat dna comparisons than chimp.
evolution is a religion that requires as much faith as creation

WTF is that?
Another Breathtaking MORON.
Why should we have more Rat than Chimp DNA?
We BOTH evolved Tens of millions of years LATER from/into the Primate Branch of the mammal tree.
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after the tk event, there were no primates

 

[Old Rocks]

Primates are remarkably recent animals. Most animal species flourished and became extinct long before the first monkeys and theirprosimian ancestors evolved. While the earth is about 4.54 billion years old and the first life dates to at least 3.5 billion years ago, the first primates did not appear until around 50-55 million years ago. That was10-15 million years after the dinosaurs had become extinct.

65,000,000 years ago

present
Transitional primate-like creatures were evolving by the end of the Mesozoic Era (ca. 65.5 million years ago). At that time, the world was very different from today. The continents were in other locations and they had somewhat different shapes. North America was still connected to Europe but not to South America. India was not yet part of Asia but heading towards it at a surprisingly rapid rate of nearly 8 inches (20 cm.) per year. Australia was close to Antarctica. Most land masses had warm tropical or subtropical climates.

The flora and fauna at the end of the Mesozoic Era would have seemed alien since most of the plants and animals that are familiar to us had not yet evolved. Large reptiles were beginning to be replaced by mammals as the dominant large land animals. Among the mammals, there were a few archaic egg-layers (monotremes) like the ancestors of the platypus and echidna. There were larger numbers of pouched opossum-like mammals (marsupials). The few placental mammals that existed at that time mainly consisted of the Insectivore ancestors of primates. Most of the mammal species were small, ranging from about the size of a mouse up to a medium size domesticated dog. The large grass-eating placental mammals, such as cattle and wildebeest, were absent as were the vast grasslands that would later develop. Rodents and seed-eating birds were also absent. The great proliferation of flowering plants had not taken place yet. However, forests of broad-leafed trees were developing over much of the earth.

Early Primate Evolution:  The First Primates

Two Thumbs, look at your two thumbs and then at the hands of squirrels and rats. You are related to them.

 

[Two Thumbs]

The delusional reach to make such a conclusion would cause any non-believer to wonder if their faith has any solid ground

 

[Old Rocks]

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/10/101011142411.htm

University of Florida researchers presenting new fossil evidence of an exceptionally well-preserved 55-million-year-old North American mammal have found it shares a common ancestor with rodents and primates, including humans.

The study, scheduled to appear in the Oct. 11 online edition of the Zoological Journal of the Linnean Society, describes the cranial anatomy of the extinct mammal, Labidolemur kayi. High resolution CT scans of the specimens allowed researchers to study minute details in the skull, including bone structures smaller than one-tenth of a millimeter. Similarities in bone features with other mammals show L. kayi's living relatives are rodents, rabbits, flying lemurs, tree shrews and primates.

Researchers said the new information will aide future studies to better understand the origin of primates.

Argue with scientists, Two Thumbs.

 

[Two Thumbs]

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/10/101011142411.htm

University of Florida researchers presenting new fossil evidence of an exceptionally well-preserved 55-million-year-old North American mammal have found it shares a common ancestor with rodents and primates, including humans.

The study, scheduled to appear in the Oct. 11 online edition of the Zoological Journal of the Linnean Society, describes the cranial anatomy of the extinct mammal, Labidolemur kayi. High resolution CT scans of the specimens allowed researchers to study minute details in the skull, including bone structures smaller than one-tenth of a millimeter. Similarities in bone features with other mammals show L. kayi's living relatives are rodents, rabbits, flying lemurs, tree shrews and primates.

Researchers said the new information will aide future studies to better understand the origin of primates.

Argue with scientists, Two Thumbs.

Look at the array of possibilities.

good lord

A scientist said "maybe" so it must be true!!

scientist also said that T-rex walked upright and dragged it's tail, they also said we were going into another ice age, and Cat-5 hurricanes would be the norm, the arctic ice would be nearly gone by now.

absolute faith in people that are wrong this often, would give a normal person pause, but not a leftist, to a leftist we didn't give them enough money to get it right.

 

[hortysir]

One more lame attempt to pretend adaptation is proof of evolution.
You freaks can't even prove where life came from, let alone prove all living things magically evolved into all the different species. Talk about believing in magic... you people are bat shit crazy.

You ALSO could not reply to me Meaty posts, showing that life/evolution is NOT "magic" but a sloppy continuum with evidence right on your body.

Second, I/we don't claim to know what started life/the spark, (tho we have a some idea) and that is NOT "evolution", this is 'abiogenesis.'
(look it up Goofy)
Evolution starts AFTER the first life and explains, with EXTENSIVE EVIDENCE, how it evolved.

Your post is a Stupid strawman/"Oh yeah!". Like I said "2+2=4" and you said, "You don't even know how many home runs Babe Ruth hit".
Duh.
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I see a lot of BLAH, BLAH, BLAH... your OPINION and no PROOF.

Evolution is a THEORY, and you TWITS trying to convince people that ADAPTATION is EVOLUTION is PATHETIC.

Now go fuck your goat, ass wipe.

My goodness, are you running for the stupidest 'Conservative' of the year? Posts like that certainly make it look that way. Well, that is a very competitive race. But you are doing well.

Evolution is the accepted theory for explaining the variety of life on earth. It is supported by the fossil record, and by the DNA in every cell in your body. That you cannot see the logic is only an indication of your lack of intellect.

The " fossil record" has been forged and lied about too often to count

 

[Two Thumbs]

One more lame attempt to pretend adaptation is proof of evolution.
You freaks can't even prove where life came from, let alone prove all living things magically evolved into all the different species. Talk about believing in magic... you people are bat shit crazy.

You ALSO could not reply to me Meaty posts, showing that life/evolution is NOT "magic" but a sloppy continuum with evidence right on your body.

Second, I/we don't claim to know what started life/the spark, (tho we have a some idea) and that is NOT "evolution", this is 'abiogenesis.'
(look it up Goofy)
Evolution starts AFTER the first life and explains, with EXTENSIVE EVIDENCE, how it evolved.

Your post is a Stupid strawman/"Oh yeah!". Like I said "2+2=4" and you said, "You don't even know how many home runs Babe Ruth hit".
Duh.
`

I see a lot of BLAH, BLAH, BLAH... your OPINION and no PROOF.

Evolution is a THEORY, and you TWITS trying to convince people that ADAPTATION is EVOLUTION is PATHETIC.

Now go fuck your goat, ass wipe.

My goodness, are you running for the stupidest 'Conservative' of the year? Posts like that certainly make it look that way. Well, that is a very competitive race. But you are doing well.

Evolution is the accepted theory for explaining the variety of life on earth. It is supported by the fossil record, and by the DNA in every cell in your body. That you cannot see the logic is only an indication of your lack of intellect.

The " fossil record" has been forged and lied about too often to count

http://www.sciencecentres.org.uk/projects/handsondna/4.8 - Amazing facts and quiz questions.pdf


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