No One Has a Right to Health Care

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    . It's that the insurance side of this thing is mostly where the problem is. High prices, denials of payments for services, cancelations, shifting cost to government, and on and on it all goes.
     
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    How does greed affect the free market place.

    If company A charges to much I can switch to company B or C........


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    we could have an honest discussion on this if you bring up something that you think the government got right.
    Im not so perfect as to think I might have missed something.
     
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    . Once upon a time you could do that, but just like the price of gas with corporations, it's the same with corporate row in each town and city (pennies difference in the price), there is no real choice or difference in price like there used to be, because the mom & pop stores were swallowed up, and the corporations took over. The price is almost identical in these places, and the quality of service & product is the same in these places also (cruddy), and there is no escape from either anymore. Where do you live 60 years ago ? Just for another example, I remember when there was auto parts stores very convienently located to everyone's community, but they have went out of business by the hundreds. They were replaced by the big three "Auto Zone, Advance Auto, and Orielly Auto parts stores. Now get this, they are located on the same corner in the city. So now when people need a part for something, they have to drive way farther than they had in the past just to get a part.
     
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    . Good Lord, the list is so long it ain't funny... Labor laws, civil rights laws, environmental laws, OSHA laws, coal mining safety, and many many more. There are many triumphs on many issues that were fought hard against by greedy CEO's and their rich board members who wanted to pilage and exploit this nation for all it was worth. Well guess what, their are millions living in this nation, and we are not to be exploited by the rich & powerful who would do such a thing without consequence sooner or later, and thank God we have a lever to pull if have too.
     
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    Is greed the problem in Canada? Why would a universal health care system, that is supposed to be giving quality of care to those who need it, be found denying treatment to patients?


    However I found the problem isn't shared by Canada alone.


    Would it be fair to say that greed is the problem surrounding these issues with health care?
     
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    . If the money is there, and these systems are denying treatments to those who are covered, then it could mean there is corruption, greed or something wrong within the system possibly ? How does the providers get paid by that system ? Is the system all government controlled, where as the providers work for the government or are they free expecting government to pay them ? If they are free, are they charging the government to much ? Not sure what goes on in these systems, but we are not these other countries, and we shouldn't be comparing ourselves to them unless we fear we can't do any better than these other countries no matter what we do. Is this what Trump talks about when he say's we're always losing anymore, and it's time we start winning again ? The problem he figures is not with the other countries, but it is with us.
     
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    . I'll think it could be fair to say that greed can surround and destroy anything.
     
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    OK , so you found no evidence that (private) greed affects the delivery of healthcare.


    greed
    ɡrēd/
    noun
    1. intense and selfish desire for something, especially wealth, power,

    But we see that greed , which is defined as "intense and selfish desire for ......... power definitely includes the politicians . Corrupt politicians will destroy healthcare because of their greed.

    massive unnecessary regulations, medicaid, medicare , are all motivated by the desire for power - in that case greed has ruined healthcare in these US of A.


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