No Need for Universal Health Care in US

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    For the last 50+ years the right has fought to stop any kind of universal health care to include Medicare and Medicaid. Fortunately they lost on those, but they still are fighting to protect their friends in the Medical Insurance industry.

    How many more Americans must die before we finally act like a civilized society? For those who say "socialized medicine" pull your head out of your butts. What is being proposed is not socialized medicine, but since you have coverage who gives a shit about those dying because they can't afford to pay the Death Panels from United, Aetna, Blue Cross, Humana, etc.

    Harvard Study: 45,000 Uninsured Die Every Year - NAM
     
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    This is a sad commentary on the morals of this nation. Not only do tens of thousands die for lack of care in this nation, but hundreds of thousands go bankrupt yearly because of medical bills. We are the only industrial nation in which this is the case. Worse yet, over 50% of those going bankrupt because of medical bills, actually have insurance.

    If we were number one in longevity, health in old age, and infant mortality, perhaps we could excuse these numbers. But we lag behind not only industrial nations in these figures, but even some poor nations such as Costa Rica in these numbers.
     
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    Tens of thousands are too lazy to fill out paperwork? That is sad.
     
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    Perhaps they are too sick to pick up the pen?

    And if they could pick up the pen their private US insurance company would then say "if you can pick this pen up you are not sick enough to be covered."
     
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    Ouch!
     
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    There is no one dying because they lack health care. Have you ever heard of the hypocratic oath, no one can be denied care because they don't have insurance, or the means to pay for it, they show up in our emergency rooms get the needed treatment, operations, treatment for cancer ect. Ever heard of medicaid, that's what they get. You have obviously bought into the hype of the month club.

    If people were dying every day your liberal media would be all over that like a wet blanket in order to sell Obama's plan, their silent on this meaning it doesn't happen. Dream on you little la la liberal land dreamer. :lol::lol:
     
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    Is this known as fear mongering? I thought only the right did it.
     
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    You know they have pateint advocates in hospitals that will not only pick up the pen they will fill out the whole damn form for you. Get freggin real.

    PEOPLE ARE DYING EVERY DAY,because they have no health insurance,OH NOOOOOO, yet ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC SAY NOTHING ABOUT THIS, interview no one, not even family members. Maybe they have not figured out how to interview the dead person. yet:lol::lol:

    You libs are soooooooooooooooooo NAIVE.
     
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    I am not actually a liberal on many issues, hell get me on the battle field against Islamo Fascism and I get quite Neo Liberal.

    But then I know military men have universal, government funded health care.

    I wonder why that is?
     
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    This is the single most idiotic statement I've ever read in my time on USMB -- and I've read a lot of shit by Sunni Man, Agnes, Pale Rider, Eots, Terral and Shogun.

    Scenario that happens all too often:

    Person A has no healthcare because his job doesn't provide it for him. He has chest pains, but ignores them because he can't afford all of the tests and can't afford to go to a doctor. One day he's driving home and has a heart attack and dies.

    Person B has no healthcare because they're unemployed and cannot afford private health insurance. Person B has diabetes but does not realize it. One day Person B goes into kidney failure and dies.

    Person C had healthcare but their insurance company canceled their coverage because person C kept going over the maximum limit of medical costs allowed per year. They die of cancer.

    How common are the above scnearios among the un-insured?

    VERY.

    Maple, I'm sorry but you are not in touch with the real world. No hippocratic oath is going to get somebody into a doctor's office for preventative care.
     

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