“no nation has the right to simply grab land from another.”

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    "'No faith can be placed in the Anglo-American colonists because they are continually demonstrating that they absolutely refuse to be subordinate, unless they find it convenient to what they want anyway, all of which I believe will be very detrimental to us for them to be our neighbors if we do not in time, clip the wings of their audacity by stationing a strong detachment in each new settlement which will enforce the laws and jurisdiction of a Mexican magistrate which should be placed in each of them, since under their own colonists as judges, they do nothing more than practice their own laws which they have practiced since they were born, forgetting the ones they have sworn to obey, these being the laws of our Supreme Government.'"


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    On December 19, 1832, the Bexar Remonstrance was issued to the Mexican Congress. It legally proclaimed the grievances that the population of Texas had suffered under the centralist style Mexican government.[65] It addressed such issues as improper protection against Indian attacks and poor pay for militia, insufficient local and legislative representation, forbidding of immigration from the United States, lack of schools and funding for education, and various violations of the repudiated republican style Constitution of 1824.


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    US annexed Hawaii. Royal family of the time wasn't consulted, asked, or compensated. US just took it over. As a kind of half-assed belated apology they've granted the surviving royal family some degree of autonomy.

    "By the time the United States got serious about looking beyond its own borders to conquer new lands, much of the world had already been claimed. Only a few distant territories in Africa and Asia and remote islands in the Pacific remained free from imperial grasp. Hawaii was one such plum. Led by a hereditary monarch, the inhabitants of the kingdom prevailed as an independent state. American expansionists looked with greed on the strategically located islands and waited patiently to plan their move."
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    Where are the cries for an independent and free Hawaii?
     
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    "The 1897 Petition Against Annexation That More Than Half of All Native Hawaiians Signed"
    Hawaii annexation Petition against annexation signed by half of native Hawaiian population

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    "U.S. Congressman Clark Says Annexation Against the Will of the Hawaiian People
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    Planning on turning the deed to your own property over to the Natives, gratis, as penance, anytime soon?
     
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    What about it?

    You want us to give it back, 166 years later?
    (2014 - 1848 = 166)

    Why?
     
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    Don't own my apartment. If the Natives want it they can have it. Need an excuse to move anyway.
     
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    Oh, my, this Self-Flagellation over early-times conquests is weird, but damned funny.
     
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    The vast majority of Hawaiians voted in favor of statehood.
     

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