No Indictment in Eric Garner Case

[RKMBrown]

Do you see why police are required to demonstrate probable cause before arresting someone? In this particular instance we don't even know for sure what call the NYPD was responding to when they killed Eric Garner. Were the cops called regarding Garner's activities in selling "loosies" or for his involvement in a fight? We also don't know the contents of his pockets which would also be useful in determining whether or not he was engaged in illegal sales at the time of his homicide. I recognize police treat rich white parasites like those who crashed the global economy in 2007 differently from "criminals" like Eric Garner; however, I'm not deluded enough to believe the two responses are unrelated--are you?

Again, you are making emotive claims which you simply can't support with any evidence. You continue to imply the police treated Garner differently than they would have if Garner were white. There is no basis for this viewpoint, no evidence to suggest it could have been the case here.

The police are certainly NOT required to demonstrate probable cause before making an arrest. I don't know who told you that or where you think you learned it, but that is simply not a fact. Police arrest people every day on orders of arrest by the courts and judges whenever warrants are issued, there is no prerequisite for the officer to demonstrate anything other than Miranda rights. If the officer observes you breaking the law, they can make an arrest without a warrant. This has nothing to do with your guilt or innocence of a crime. They are not required to hold a hearing in the street and give you a chance to plead your case. You will have the opportunity to plead your case before a judge, where the officer will also be available to present his/her side of the story. You see, this is how our system works.

Now... I agree that the findings of the grand jury need to be released to the public. I also think the Garner family has a legitimately potential civil case against NYC and the PD. I'm not defending or attacking anyone here. But Eric Garner didn't die because he was black.

Oddly, you are the only one talking about skin color.

"I recognize police treat rich white parasites like those who crashed the global economy in 2007 differently from "criminals" like Eric Garner;" -GEORGEPHILLIP

That wasn't MY quote, was it?

Would you like me to quote you out of context?

You said I am the only one talking about skin color. I instantly proved you were a liar. If you now want to quote me out of context, I would say that is fitting and proper for any liar.

I actually ought to thank you for giving me my first true belly laugh this entire thread. So you really haven't seen anyone else talk about skin color? LMAO... Really???

Do you always have a problem with scoping issues, linear time, and literal vs. figurative comments? You might want to see a counselor about that.

 

[Ravi]

Why bother with this idiot? He's only here to get his pathetic day making continual arguments that have no legal bases.

It's not nice to talk about Boo Boo that way

So if a police officer kidnaps you, you won't resist?

So now you are going to give data on the number of cops charged with kidnapping?
Are you posting from an insane asylum?
If not you should be.

Kidnapping was but ONE example of how a LEO could make an unlawful arrest you fool

Kidnapping and unlawful arrest are two different things, moron.

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

Why bother with this idiot? He's only here to get his pathetic day making continual arguments that have no legal bases.

It's not nice to talk about Boo Boo that way

So if a police officer kidnaps you, you won't resist?

So now you are going to give data on the number of cops charged with kidnapping?
Are you posting from an insane asylum?
If not you should be.

Kidnapping was but ONE example of how a LEO could make an unlawful arrest you fool

Kidnapping and unlawful arrest are two different things, moron.

No shit, but an unlawful arrest can become kidnapping


Idiot

 

[Ravi]

It's not nice to talk about Boo Boo that way

So if a police officer kidnaps you, you won't resist?

So now you are going to give data on the number of cops charged with kidnapping?
Are you posting from an insane asylum?
If not you should be.

Kidnapping was but ONE example of how a LEO could make an unlawful arrest you fool

Kidnapping and unlawful arrest are two different things, moron.

No shit, but an unlawful arrest can become kidnapping


Idiot

Or wrongful death, as it appears to have been the case with Garner.

You really aren't smarter than any bear.

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

So if a police officer kidnaps you, you won't resist?

So now you are going to give data on the number of cops charged with kidnapping?
Are you posting from an insane asylum?
If not you should be.

Kidnapping was but ONE example of how a LEO could make an unlawful arrest you fool

Kidnapping and unlawful arrest are two different things, moron.

No shit, but an unlawful arrest can become kidnapping


Idiot

Or wrongful death, as it appears to have been the case with Garner.

You really aren't smarter than any bear.

Again you are stupid, illiterate, and dishonest.

I agree, the GJ in THIS case got it wrong.

 

[Boss]

It's irrational to assume mobs of police officers run around abusing their authority to violate basic civil rights.

That may well be true in your neighborhood.
Not so much for the one Eric Garner lived and died in.

Well NO... You've simply not proven that you little shit-for-brains. You keep on yammering it like an idiot, but you've not supported it with any evidence. And that is the thing... you don't have any evidence. IF the NYPD were a person, they could sue your for slander and defamation. All you have done is try to promote one LIE after another as if it were truth, as if you have some kind of evidence to prove it. You don't have diddly-squat.

You're an emotive little punk who rational and reasonable people can dismiss because all you want to do is LIE and instigate more racial division. You haven't been the least bit objective and you have no intentions of being objective, you just want to run that arrogant punk mouth and spew nonsensical rhetoric.

 

[georgephillip]

LOL So you're telling me that a police officer could become a kidnapper and you're not allowed to resist? That's your argument? You dumb fuck

Is resisting arrest ever legal?
"Possibly, depending on which state you happen to be in. Some states expressly grant the right to resist an unlawful arrest, and a few others expressly prohibit it.

"That said, I would never advise someone to resist arrest, even if he or she knows the arrest was improper or unlawful.

"The cop's trained reaction to resistance is to increase the level of force to overcome the resistance. Since he has the immediate capacity to take that level all the way to deadly force, you're rolling the dice in a very dangerous game."
Your ignorance is exceeded only by your arrogance.

Unlawful arrest Is resisting a police arrest ever legal

 

[georgephillip]

Well NO... You've simply not proven that you little shit-for-brains. You keep on yammering it like an idiot, but you've not supported it with any evidence. And that is the thing... you don't have any evidence. IF the NYPD were a person, they could sue your for slander and defamation

So says the greedy little rich bitch who's ignorant of the distinction between slander and libel. Maybe you should spend less time fucking your workers and more time learning how to think critically?

 

[justinacolmena]

Another White Police officer has got off scot free for killing a Black Man who was just trying to sell some untaxed cigarettes.

"Scot free" — sounds like another kilt-and-bagpipes funeral at the local Fraternal Order of Police function.

• Scottish nationalism
• Scottish Rite Freemasonry
• Ku Klux Klan
• Scotland Yard

Those law fuckers are looking at the gallows for that kind of shit, but it’s more likely that scotch copper is already tried and convicted in absentia at court-martial, and he’s just awaiting execution at a time and place his brother Klansmen won’t be there to back him up.

 

[Godboy]

Another White Police officer has got off scot free for killing a Black Man who was just trying to sell some untaxed cigarettes. (Collecting taxes is the most important thing Government does...at least the Government thinks so.)

And here in this case we have video of the White cop killing the Black man........using a tactic which I understand to have been disapproved by police procedure...And it is reasonable to assume that it was disapproved because it was considered to be too dangerous.

But, just like in Missouri, the Grand Jury let the White Cop off. I agreed the White cop in Missouri.

I assume, the Sharpton/Obama/Holder....the Red State ProgressiveLiberal/Socialist.....the Yale Pinhead...those Hollywood assholes ......all are apoplectic-----as they ought to be....This case in New York is far more offensive in my opinion.

But will they let them burn New York down? In the same way they turned a blind eye to the mayhem perpetrated on the Good Citizens in Ferguson....where, Police and National Guard were paralyzed by a fear of roughing up a Black Arsonist.

Is the White Cop in the South to be presumed to have acted out of racial animus; but the one in New York not be thus presumed. Will Eric Holder investigate the New York police force like they are the one in Ferguson?

Your turn New York.

Lets see how you do.

Here's a hint from deep down South. That Conversation on Race they are going to want to have.....well, its a Listening Process. The only time you get to say anything is when they ask:

"What have you done for me lately?"

Why should the police be indicted for the health issues of an obese criminal?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

The cop did nothing. Video proved that the hold the had on Garner was long over. Garner died of heart disease aggravated by diabetes incident to gross obesity.

 

[justinacolmena]

Why should the police be indicted for the health issues of an obese criminal?

I don't know that police officers themselves have the same 5th Amendment protections as ordinary citizens against criminal prosecution of misconduct in the line of duty.

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Particularly since they have militarized themselves into a standing Army since 9/11/2001 on continual high alert for the war on terror, public danger, and mental health wellness check.

 

[LuckyDuck]

Another White Police officer has got off scot free for killing a Black Man who was just trying to sell some untaxed cigarettes. (Collecting taxes is the most important thing Government does...at least the Government thinks so.)

And here in this case we have video of the White cop killing the Black man........using a tactic which I understand to have been disapproved by police procedure...And it is reasonable to assume that it was disapproved because it was considered to be too dangerous.

But, just like in Missouri, the Grand Jury let the White Cop off. I agreed the White cop in Missouri.

I assume, the Sharpton/Obama/Holder....the Red State ProgressiveLiberal/Socialist.....the Yale Pinhead...those Hollywood assholes ......all are apoplectic-----as they ought to be....This case in New York is far more offensive in my opinion.

But will they let them burn New York down? In the same way they turned a blind eye to the mayhem perpetrated on the Good Citizens in Ferguson....where, Police and National Guard were paralyzed by a fear of roughing up a Black Arsonist.

Is the White Cop in the South to be presumed to have acted out of racial animus; but the one in New York not be thus presumed. Will Eric Holder investigate the New York police force like they are the one in Ferguson?

Your turn New York.

Lets see how you do.

Here's a hint from deep down South. That Conversation on Race they are going to want to have.....well, its a Listening Process. The only time you get to say anything is when they ask:

"What have you done for me lately?"

Let's see.....selling untaxed cigarettes (a crime), driving without a license (a crime), marijuana possession (a crime), false impersonation (a crime). Via my criminal justice degree, that identifies him as a "petty" criminal. The law requires that he be brought in for processing and then he can be bailed out or released on his own recognizance. He wasn't cooperating, thus forceful methods had to be utilized. Also, I've spent enough time around the medical field to know that if someone has you in a hold around the neck and you "vocally" complain you can't breathe...you can in fact breathe. The ability to speak it a give-away on that.
Apparently, much of the inner-city black community believes that the following should occur when the police find a black person committing a crime or crimes. Nothing. They are above the law and also, no one in the black community should report crimes committed by blacks to the police. After all...."snitches get stitches." And of course, then they complain about crime in their areas, even though not talking to the police.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

The unusual thing about this arrest is that Garner had been arrested numerous times for this same thing. He always paid his fine and it was done.

 

[lennypartiv]

If Democrats had their way and these police officers were indicted, nobody would want to be a police officer anymore.

 

[dannyboys]

How many negroes shot other negroes in Chicago last weekend?
Where is the LIB media? Al Sharpton? BONOBO?
They don't give a fuck about their 'community'.
As long as some of the surviving negroes turn out to vote for the DEMs.

 

[dannyboys]

The unusual thing about this arrest is that Garner had been arrested numerous times for this same thing. He always paid his fine and it was done.

So he was too fucking stupid to ever learn his lesson.......right?
Good old Ms. Social Darwinism wins again.