No defense is the best defense when there's no defense.

[berg80]

House Democrats’ impeachment report accuses Trump of obstruction, other misconduct

"The impeachment inquiry into Donald J. Trump, the 45th President of the United States, uncovered a months-long effort by President Trump to use the powers of his office to solicit foreign interference on his behalf in the 2020 election. As described in this executive summary and the report that follows, President Trump’s scheme subverted U.S. foreign policy toward Ukraine and undermined our national security in favor of two politically motivated investigations that would help his presidential reelection campaign. The President demanded that the newly-elected Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelensky, publicly announce investigations into a political rival that he apparently feared the most, former Vice President Joe Biden, and into a discredited theory that it was Ukraine, not Russia, that interfered in the 2016 presidential election. To compel the Ukrainian President to do his political bidding, President Trump conditioned two official acts on the public announcement of the investigations: a coveted White House visit and critical U.S. military assistance Ukraine needed to fight its Russian adversary.

During a July 25, 2019, call between President Trump and President Zelensky, President Zelensky expressed gratitude for U.S. military assistance. President Trump immediately responded by asking President Zelensky to “do us a favor though” and openly pressed for Ukraine to investigate former Vice President Biden and the 2016 conspiracy theory. In turn, President Zelensky assured President Trump that he would pursue the investigation and reiterated his interest in the White House meeting. Although President Trump’s scheme intentionally bypassed many career personnel, it was undertaken with the knowledge and approval of senior Administration officials, including the President’s Acting Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, and Secretary of Energy Rick Perry. In fact, at a press conference weeks after public revelations about the scheme, Mr. Mulvaney publicly acknowledged that the President directly tied the hold on military aid to his desire to get Ukraine to conduct a political investigation, telling Americans to “get over it.”
Report | Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence

 

[berg80]

The WH has finally decided on a defense strategy. They're going with black is white and up is down.

 

[berg80]

The most damning sentence in the House Intelligence Committee’s impeachment report

The House Intelligence Committee just released a 300-page report with the conclusions from its impeachment inquiry into President Donald Trump’s actions involving Ukraine.

You can read the full report, and if you have the time and inclination, you should. Or you can read the much shorter executive summary.

But all you really need to read is this one sentence from the report, which encapsulates all of its major findings: “[T]he impeachment inquiry has found that President Trump, personally and acting through agents within and outside of the U.S. government, solicited the interference of a foreign government, Ukraine, to benefit his reelection.”

That’s it and that’s all.
The most damning sentence in the House Intelligence Committee’s impeachment report

 

[theHawk]

If Mike Pompeo had exculpatory evidence to offer in Vlad's chosen candidate's defense he would have been told to run, not walk, to Capital Hill to testify to it.
If Mick Mulvaney had exculpatory evidence to offer in Vlad's chosen candidate's defense he would have been told to run, not walk, to Capital Hill to testify to it.
If Rick Perry had exculpatory evidence to offer in Vlad's chosen candidate's defense he would have been told to run, not walk, to Capital Hill to testify to it.
If John Bolton had exculpatory evidence to offer in Vlad's chosen candidate's defense he would have been told to run, not walk, to Capital Hill to testify to it.

If anyone in the admin had exculpatory evidence to offer in Vlad's chosen candidate's defense they would have been told to run, not walk, to Capital Hill to testify to it.

If the WH felt having an attorney present at the Judiciary Committee hearing could provide a viable defense for the bloviating former reality TV star they would send one.

But when there is no defense the best defense is to complain that the hearings are being held in secret.........until they aren't. Or that Repubs aren't being allowed to participate.......which they were. Or that the prez isn't being allowed to defend himself.........which he is. In other words.........................
"If the facts are against you argue the law, if the law is against you argue the facts, if the law and the facts are against you, yell like hell."

Baby Donald is shaking his rattle as loudly as he can. He's calling the inquiry a sham, he is illegally blocking witness testimony, he's throwing shyte on the wall, mud in the water, doing everything he (and his right wing media enablers) can to confuse, obfuscate, and obstruct. It's not how innocent people act.

Hard to defend something when no one knows what the crime is. Want to enlighten us?

 

[kwc57]

House Democrats’ impeachment report accuses Trump of obstruction, other misconduct

"The impeachment inquiry into Donald J. Trump, the 45th President of the United States, uncovered a months-long effort by President Trump to use the powers of his office to solicit foreign interference on his behalf in the 2020 election. As described in this executive summary and the report that follows, President Trump’s scheme subverted U.S. foreign policy toward Ukraine and undermined our national security in favor of two politically motivated investigations that would help his presidential reelection campaign. The President demanded that the newly-elected Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelensky, publicly announce investigations into a political rival that he apparently feared the most, former Vice President Joe Biden, and into a discredited theory that it was Ukraine, not Russia, that interfered in the 2016 presidential election. To compel the Ukrainian President to do his political bidding, President Trump conditioned two official acts on the public announcement of the investigations: a coveted White House visit and critical U.S. military assistance Ukraine needed to fight its Russian adversary.

During a July 25, 2019, call between President Trump and President Zelensky, President Zelensky expressed gratitude for U.S. military assistance. President Trump immediately responded by asking President Zelensky to “do us a favor though” and openly pressed for Ukraine to investigate former Vice President Biden and the 2016 conspiracy theory. In turn, President Zelensky assured President Trump that he would pursue the investigation and reiterated his interest in the White House meeting. Although President Trump’s scheme intentionally bypassed many career personnel, it was undertaken with the knowledge and approval of senior Administration officials, including the President’s Acting Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, and Secretary of Energy Rick Perry. In fact, at a press conference weeks after public revelations about the scheme, Mr. Mulvaney publicly acknowledged that the President directly tied the hold on military aid to his desire to get Ukraine to conduct a political investigation, telling Americans to “get over it.”
Report | Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence

You left out the part where he cuts the heads off of puppies and drinks the blood. LOL

 

[lantern2814]

Am I a sadist?? I can't stop laughing finding out it's Trump voters mostly, getting hurt with his trade war

So we’re normal by laughing at butthurt know nothings like you while we have more money in our pockets. Spending for the holidays isn’t dropping like you wanted. Hoping for people to be hurt economically. Typical libtard. By the way, best STFU if you took the lower Trump tax rates and didn’t pay the higher Obozo rates. But you’re a hypocrite so.......

 

[Theowl32]

If Mike Pompeo had exculpatory evidence to offer in Vlad's chosen candidate's defense he would have been told to run, not walk, to Capital Hill to testify to it.
If Mick Mulvaney had exculpatory evidence to offer in Vlad's chosen candidate's defense he would have been told to run, not walk, to Capital Hill to testify to it.
If Rick Perry had exculpatory evidence to offer in Vlad's chosen candidate's defense he would have been told to run, not walk, to Capital Hill to testify to it.
If John Bolton had exculpatory evidence to offer in Vlad's chosen candidate's defense he would have been told to run, not walk, to Capital Hill to testify to it.

If anyone in the admin had exculpatory evidence to offer in Vlad's chosen candidate's defense they would have been told to run, not walk, to Capital Hill to testify to it.

If the WH felt having an attorney present at the Judiciary Committee hearing could provide a viable defense for the bloviating former reality TV star they would send one.

But when there is no defense the best defense is to complain that the hearings are being held in secret.........until they aren't. Or that Repubs aren't being allowed to participate.......which they were. Or that the prez isn't being allowed to defend himself.........which he is. In other words.........................
"If the facts are against you argue the law, if the law is against you argue the facts, if the law and the facts are against you, yell like hell."

Baby Donald is shaking his rattle as loudly as he can. He's calling the inquiry a sham, he is illegally blocking witness testimony, he's throwing shyte on the wall, mud in the water, doing everything he (and his right wing media enablers) can to confuse, obfuscate, and obstruct. It's not how innocent people act.

Want to make a bet? If Donald does not get removed from office never post here again and vice versa.

Want to make that bet?

 

[blackhawk]

Here is some breaking news in America the accused does not have to prove they are innocent they are presumed innocent it is in places like oh say Russia where you are guilty till proven innocent.

 

[berg80]

If Mike Pompeo had exculpatory evidence to offer in Vlad's chosen candidate's defense he would have been told to run, not walk, to Capital Hill to testify to it.
If Mick Mulvaney had exculpatory evidence to offer in Vlad's chosen candidate's defense he would have been told to run, not walk, to Capital Hill to testify to it.
If Rick Perry had exculpatory evidence to offer in Vlad's chosen candidate's defense he would have been told to run, not walk, to Capital Hill to testify to it.
If John Bolton had exculpatory evidence to offer in Vlad's chosen candidate's defense he would have been told to run, not walk, to Capital Hill to testify to it.

If anyone in the admin had exculpatory evidence to offer in Vlad's chosen candidate's defense they would have been told to run, not walk, to Capital Hill to testify to it.

If the WH felt having an attorney present at the Judiciary Committee hearing could provide a viable defense for the bloviating former reality TV star they would send one.

But when there is no defense the best defense is to complain that the hearings are being held in secret.........until they aren't. Or that Repubs aren't being allowed to participate.......which they were. Or that the prez isn't being allowed to defend himself.........which he is. In other words.........................
"If the facts are against you argue the law, if the law is against you argue the facts, if the law and the facts are against you, yell like hell."

Baby Donald is shaking his rattle as loudly as he can. He's calling the inquiry a sham, he is illegally blocking witness testimony, he's throwing shyte on the wall, mud in the water, doing everything he (and his right wing media enablers) can to confuse, obfuscate, and obstruct. It's not how innocent people act.

Hard to defend something when no one knows what the crime is. Want to enlighten us?

Did you just return from the Moon? Soliciting foreign assistance in a US election is a crime. Obstructing a congressional investigation is a crime. I should note, the commission of a crime is not necessary to warrant impeachment. Just ask Lindsey.
https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article230483449.html

 

[berg80]

If Mike Pompeo had exculpatory evidence to offer in Vlad's chosen candidate's defense he would have been told to run, not walk, to Capital Hill to testify to it.
If Mick Mulvaney had exculpatory evidence to offer in Vlad's chosen candidate's defense he would have been told to run, not walk, to Capital Hill to testify to it.
If Rick Perry had exculpatory evidence to offer in Vlad's chosen candidate's defense he would have been told to run, not walk, to Capital Hill to testify to it.
If John Bolton had exculpatory evidence to offer in Vlad's chosen candidate's defense he would have been told to run, not walk, to Capital Hill to testify to it.

If anyone in the admin had exculpatory evidence to offer in Vlad's chosen candidate's defense they would have been told to run, not walk, to Capital Hill to testify to it.

If the WH felt having an attorney present at the Judiciary Committee hearing could provide a viable defense for the bloviating former reality TV star they would send one.

But when there is no defense the best defense is to complain that the hearings are being held in secret.........until they aren't. Or that Repubs aren't being allowed to participate.......which they were. Or that the prez isn't being allowed to defend himself.........which he is. In other words.........................
"If the facts are against you argue the law, if the law is against you argue the facts, if the law and the facts are against you, yell like hell."

Baby Donald is shaking his rattle as loudly as he can. He's calling the inquiry a sham, he is illegally blocking witness testimony, he's throwing shyte on the wall, mud in the water, doing everything he (and his right wing media enablers) can to confuse, obfuscate, and obstruct. It's not how innocent people act.

Want to make a bet? If Donald does not get removed from office never post here again and vice versa.

Want to make that bet?

Are you nuts? Make a bet that Senate Repubs will vote on the evidence, honor the Constitution and their oath of office, instead of making a political calculation on their re-election? Why would I do that?

 

[Theowl32]

If Mike Pompeo had exculpatory evidence to offer in Vlad's chosen candidate's defense he would have been told to run, not walk, to Capital Hill to testify to it.
If Mick Mulvaney had exculpatory evidence to offer in Vlad's chosen candidate's defense he would have been told to run, not walk, to Capital Hill to testify to it.
If Rick Perry had exculpatory evidence to offer in Vlad's chosen candidate's defense he would have been told to run, not walk, to Capital Hill to testify to it.
If John Bolton had exculpatory evidence to offer in Vlad's chosen candidate's defense he would have been told to run, not walk, to Capital Hill to testify to it.

If anyone in the admin had exculpatory evidence to offer in Vlad's chosen candidate's defense they would have been told to run, not walk, to Capital Hill to testify to it.

If the WH felt having an attorney present at the Judiciary Committee hearing could provide a viable defense for the bloviating former reality TV star they would send one.

But when there is no defense the best defense is to complain that the hearings are being held in secret.........until they aren't. Or that Repubs aren't being allowed to participate.......which they were. Or that the prez isn't being allowed to defend himself.........which he is. In other words.........................
"If the facts are against you argue the law, if the law is against you argue the facts, if the law and the facts are against you, yell like hell."

Baby Donald is shaking his rattle as loudly as he can. He's calling the inquiry a sham, he is illegally blocking witness testimony, he's throwing shyte on the wall, mud in the water, doing everything he (and his right wing media enablers) can to confuse, obfuscate, and obstruct. It's not how innocent people act.

Want to make a bet? If Donald does not get removed from office never post here again and vice versa.

Want to make that bet?

Are you nuts? Make a bet that Senate Repubs will vote on the evidence, honor the Constitution and their oath of office, instead of making a political calculation on their re-election? Why would I do that?

You are a loser

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

The most damning sentence in the House Intelligence Committee’s impeachment report

The House Intelligence Committee just released a 300-page report with the conclusions from its impeachment inquiry into President Donald Trump’s actions involving Ukraine.

You can read the full report, and if you have the time and inclination, you should. Or you can read the much shorter executive summary.

But all you really need to read is this one sentence from the report, which encapsulates all of its major findings: “[T]he impeachment inquiry has found that President Trump, personally and acting through agents within and outside of the U.S. government, solicited the interference of a foreign government, Ukraine, to benefit his reelection.”

That’s it and that’s all.
The most damning sentence in the House Intelligence Committee’s impeachment report

Yes. That is why the effort will fail. There is no evidence supporting the statement.

 

[berg80]

The most damning sentence in the House Intelligence Committee’s impeachment report

The House Intelligence Committee just released a 300-page report with the conclusions from its impeachment inquiry into President Donald Trump’s actions involving Ukraine.

You can read the full report, and if you have the time and inclination, you should. Or you can read the much shorter executive summary.

But all you really need to read is this one sentence from the report, which encapsulates all of its major findings: “[T]he impeachment inquiry has found that President Trump, personally and acting through agents within and outside of the U.S. government, solicited the interference of a foreign government, Ukraine, to benefit his reelection.”

That’s it and that’s all.
The most damning sentence in the House Intelligence Committee’s impeachment report

Yes. That is why the effort will fail. There is no evidence supporting the statement.

Except for the mountain of evidence in the House report.

 

[berg80]

If there is a factual defense of Trump where is it? If Pompeo, Duffy, Giuliani, etc. can offer a factual defense why not let them?

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

The most damning sentence in the House Intelligence Committee’s impeachment report

The House Intelligence Committee just released a 300-page report with the conclusions from its impeachment inquiry into President Donald Trump’s actions involving Ukraine.

You can read the full report, and if you have the time and inclination, you should. Or you can read the much shorter executive summary.

But all you really need to read is this one sentence from the report, which encapsulates all of its major findings: “[T]he impeachment inquiry has found that President Trump, personally and acting through agents within and outside of the U.S. government, solicited the interference of a foreign government, Ukraine, to benefit his reelection.”

That’s it and that’s all.
The most damning sentence in the House Intelligence Committee’s impeachment report

Yes. That is why the effort will fail. There is no evidence supporting the statement.

Except for the mountain of evidence in the House report.

You spelled shit wrong.

 

[kwc57]

If Mike Pompeo had exculpatory evidence to offer in Vlad's chosen candidate's defense he would have been told to run, not walk, to Capital Hill to testify to it.
If Mick Mulvaney had exculpatory evidence to offer in Vlad's chosen candidate's defense he would have been told to run, not walk, to Capital Hill to testify to it.
If Rick Perry had exculpatory evidence to offer in Vlad's chosen candidate's defense he would have been told to run, not walk, to Capital Hill to testify to it.
If John Bolton had exculpatory evidence to offer in Vlad's chosen candidate's defense he would have been told to run, not walk, to Capital Hill to testify to it.

If anyone in the admin had exculpatory evidence to offer in Vlad's chosen candidate's defense they would have been told to run, not walk, to Capital Hill to testify to it.

If the WH felt having an attorney present at the Judiciary Committee hearing could provide a viable defense for the bloviating former reality TV star they would send one.

But when there is no defense the best defense is to complain that the hearings are being held in secret.........until they aren't. Or that Repubs aren't being allowed to participate.......which they were. Or that the prez isn't being allowed to defend himself.........which he is. In other words.........................
"If the facts are against you argue the law, if the law is against you argue the facts, if the law and the facts are against you, yell like hell."

Baby Donald is shaking his rattle as loudly as he can. He's calling the inquiry a sham, he is illegally blocking witness testimony, he's throwing shyte on the wall, mud in the water, doing everything he (and his right wing media enablers) can to confuse, obfuscate, and obstruct. It's not how innocent people act.

Hard to defend something when no one knows what the crime is. Want to enlighten us?

Did you just return from the Moon? Soliciting foreign assistance in a US election is a crime. Obstructing a congressional investigation is a crime. I should note, the commission of a crime is not necessary to warrant impeachment. Just ask Lindsey.
https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article230483449.html

Obviously it isn't or Hillary and the DNC would be in trouble for hiring an unregistered foreign agent to solicit dirt on Trump from Russian government agents in an attempt to alter the 2016 election. You can't just gloss over it when your side engages in the practice you accuse the opposition of.

 

[berg80]

If Mike Pompeo had exculpatory evidence to offer in Vlad's chosen candidate's defense he would have been told to run, not walk, to Capital Hill to testify to it.
If Mick Mulvaney had exculpatory evidence to offer in Vlad's chosen candidate's defense he would have been told to run, not walk, to Capital Hill to testify to it.
If Rick Perry had exculpatory evidence to offer in Vlad's chosen candidate's defense he would have been told to run, not walk, to Capital Hill to testify to it.
If John Bolton had exculpatory evidence to offer in Vlad's chosen candidate's defense he would have been told to run, not walk, to Capital Hill to testify to it.

If anyone in the admin had exculpatory evidence to offer in Vlad's chosen candidate's defense they would have been told to run, not walk, to Capital Hill to testify to it.

If the WH felt having an attorney present at the Judiciary Committee hearing could provide a viable defense for the bloviating former reality TV star they would send one.

But when there is no defense the best defense is to complain that the hearings are being held in secret.........until they aren't. Or that Repubs aren't being allowed to participate.......which they were. Or that the prez isn't being allowed to defend himself.........which he is. In other words.........................
"If the facts are against you argue the law, if the law is against you argue the facts, if the law and the facts are against you, yell like hell."

Baby Donald is shaking his rattle as loudly as he can. He's calling the inquiry a sham, he is illegally blocking witness testimony, he's throwing shyte on the wall, mud in the water, doing everything he (and his right wing media enablers) can to confuse, obfuscate, and obstruct. It's not how innocent people act.

Trumpette's, when asked why Trump refuses to defend himself, shout and squirm and deflect and whine and twist themselves in knots trying to rationalize the simplest of answers. Other than shouting and squirming and deflecting and whining and twisting himself in knots.............there is no defense.