No, Australian gun laws have not stopped mass shootings there....

[fncceo]

One school shooting in their history. Clearly they are doing something right and we are doing something wrong.

That has nothing to do with guns. What has stopped individuals with guns from currently walking into Australian schools? Nothing. Their gun control laws have nothing to do with their low number of public shootings.....the bad shooting of public shooters and a lack of desire to shoot more people in public has everything to do with it...since they still have public shootings, those shooters just haven't killed 3 or more people.......

Dumb luck does not show their gun control laws work...

Their gun control laws make for a more peaceful society overall, and not so obsessed with guns like you are.

So Australia is more peaceful since their gun laws?

FYI the murder rate in Australia was very low before they started banning guns and it is lower because like the UK their societal structure and all the variables involved are very different than ours

The murder rate in Australia is low because they have 20 million people spread out in a country nearly as large as the Continental United States. They don't have a Trillion dollar illicit drug industry run by gangs, and they don't have inner cities that economically failed combat zones. Australia's inner cities are actually quite nice and gentrified. Australia's largest crime centres are in economically depressed suburbs.

The largest city in Australia is Sydney, roughly the population of urban Los Angeles -- not greater Los Angeles, with no drug gang problem.

When they had the gun confiscation in 1996, fewer than 800,000 guns out of an estimated 3,000,000 guns were turned in. There are currently three million registered firearms in Australia and between six and nine million unregistered guns (depending on who is counting). That is as many as 12 million firearms in a country of just over 20 million residents.

Gun control is not the reason behind that lower incidence of gun crime in Australia.

 

[fncceo]

So we should imitate them.

To imitate Australia, we would have to murder 93% of our population, and spread the rest into seven widely dispersed cites across the continent.

 

[Taz]

One school shooting in their history. Clearly they are doing something right and we are doing something wrong.

That has nothing to do with guns. What has stopped individuals with guns from currently walking into Australian schools? Nothing. Their gun control laws have nothing to do with their low number of public shootings.....the bad shooting of public shooters and a lack of desire to shoot more people in public has everything to do with it...since they still have public shootings, those shooters just haven't killed 3 or more people.......

Dumb luck does not show their gun control laws work...

Their gun control laws make for a more peaceful society overall, and not so obsessed with guns like you are.

So Australia is more peaceful since their gun laws?

FYI the murder rate in Australia was very low before they started banning guns and it is lower because like the UK their societal structure and all the variables involved are very different than ours

The murder rate in Australia is low because they have 20 million people spread out in a country nearly as large as the Continental United States. They don't have a Trillion dollar illicit drug industry run by gangs, and they don't have inner cities that economically failed combat zones. Australia's inner cities are actually quite nice and gentrified. Australia's largest crime centres are in economically depressed suburbs.

The largest city in Australia is Sydney, roughly the population of urban Los Angeles -- not greater Los Angeles, with no drug gang problem.

When they had the gun confiscation in 1996, fewer than 800,000 guns out of an estimated 3,000,000 guns were turned in. There are currently three million registered firearms in Australia and between six and nine million unregistered guns (depending on who is counting). That is as many as 12 million firearms in a country of just over 20 million residents.

Gun control is not the reason behind that lower incidence of gun crime in Australia.

Of course it is, it fosters a more sensible society.

 

[Taz]

So we should imitate them.

To imitate Australia, we would have to murder 93% of our population, and spread the rest into seven widely dispersed cites across the continent.

^^^^^^ ALERT!

 

[fncceo]

Of course it is, it fosters a more sensible society.

I can tell you've never lived in Australia. They are not more sensible than Americans, in many cases, less so.

 

[Taz]

Of course it is, it fosters a more sensible society.

I can tell you've never lived in Australia. They are not more sensible than Americans, in many cases, less so.

The laws help define the society.

 

[fncceo]

So we should imitate them.

To imitate Australia, we would have to murder 93% of our population, and spread the rest into seven widely dispersed cites across the continent.

^^^^^^ ALERT!
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Do the math ... 330 million Americans, 24 million Australians, in roughly the same area as the Continental US. Most Australians live within an hour drive of one one seven urban centres.

 

[fncceo]

Of course it is, it fosters a more sensible society.

I can tell you've never lived in Australia. They are not more sensible than Americans, in many cases, less so.

The laws help define the society.

Australian laws permit the use of deadly force in self-defense for all citizens, just like America.

 

[Taz]

So we should imitate them.

To imitate Australia, we would have to murder 93% of our population, and spread the rest into seven widely dispersed cites across the continent.

^^^^^^ ALERT!
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Do the math ... 330 million Americans, 24 million Australians, in roughly the same area as the Continental US. Most Australians live within an hour drive of one one seven urban centres.

So you're saying that the gun problem in the US is due to our large population?

 

[Taz]

Of course it is, it fosters a more sensible society.

I can tell you've never lived in Australia. They are not more sensible than Americans, in many cases, less so.

The laws help define the society.

Australian laws permit the use of deadly force in self-defense for all citizens, just like America.

It's not individual laws that make a society, but all of them together. I bet they have traffic lights as well.

 

[fncceo]

So we should imitate them.

To imitate Australia, we would have to murder 93% of our population, and spread the rest into seven widely dispersed cites across the continent.

^^^^^^ ALERT!
View attachment 214261

Do the math ... 330 million Americans, 24 million Australians, in roughly the same area as the Continental US. Most Australians live within an hour drive of one one seven urban centres.

So you're saying that the gun problem in the US is due to our large population?

Urban population is a factor. The largest factor in gun crime in America is the Trillion dollar drug market and gangs who regularly murder their competition (and inner city kids that get caught in the crossfire).

It's not gun laws that are responsible for American gun crime, it's drug laws. Legalize recreational drugs and you eliminate driug-related gun crime, precisely the way we ended alcohol related gun crime when the abolished prohibition.

 

[fncceo]

Of course it is, it fosters a more sensible society.

I can tell you've never lived in Australia. They are not more sensible than Americans, in many cases, less so.

The laws help define the society.

Australian laws permit the use of deadly force in self-defense for all citizens, just like America.

It's not individual laws that make a society, but all of them together. I bet they have traffic lights as well.

Do traffic lights lead to a lot of gun-related crime in America? Maybe in LA.

 

[candycorn]

One school shooting in their history. Clearly they are doing something right and we are doing something wrong.

That has nothing to do with guns. What has stopped individuals with guns from currently walking into Australian schools? Nothing. Their gun control laws have nothing to do with their low number of public shootings.....the bad shooting of public shooters and a lack of desire to shoot more people in public has everything to do with it...since they still have public shootings, those shooters just haven't killed 3 or more people.......

Dumb luck does not show their gun control laws work...

Their gun control laws make for a more peaceful society overall, and not so obsessed with guns like you are.

So Australia is more peaceful since their gun laws?

FYI the murder rate in Australia was very low before they started banning guns and it is lower because like the UK their societal structure and all the variables involved are very different than ours

Correct; the UK has been frought with industrial scale violence for most of their history; large participants in both world wars most recently. Australia was founded as a penal colony.

The US? Largely untouched by war.

One would think that they would have the more violent societies. But I suppose that having seen industrial-scale violence up close has made the residents more resistant to inviting the weapons of that violence into their culture.

 

[Taz]

One school shooting in their history. Clearly they are doing something right and we are doing something wrong.

That has nothing to do with guns. What has stopped individuals with guns from currently walking into Australian schools? Nothing. Their gun control laws have nothing to do with their low number of public shootings.....the bad shooting of public shooters and a lack of desire to shoot more people in public has everything to do with it...since they still have public shootings, those shooters just haven't killed 3 or more people.......

Dumb luck does not show their gun control laws work...

Their gun control laws make for a more peaceful society overall, and not so obsessed with guns like you are.

So Australia is more peaceful since their gun laws?

FYI the murder rate in Australia was very low before they started banning guns and it is lower because like the UK their societal structure and all the variables involved are very different than ours

Correct; the UK has been frought with industrial scale violence for most of their history; large participants in both world wars most recently. Australia was founded as a penal colony.

The US? Largely untouched by war.

One would think that they would have the more violent societies. But I suppose that having seen industrial-scale violence up close has made the residents more resistant to inviting the weapons of that violence into their culture.

The US has been at war for nearly its whole existence.

 

[Skull Pilot]

One school shooting in their history. Clearly they are doing something right and we are doing something wrong.

That has nothing to do with guns. What has stopped individuals with guns from currently walking into Australian schools? Nothing. Their gun control laws have nothing to do with their low number of public shootings.....the bad shooting of public shooters and a lack of desire to shoot more people in public has everything to do with it...since they still have public shootings, those shooters just haven't killed 3 or more people.......

Dumb luck does not show their gun control laws work...

Their gun control laws make for a more peaceful society overall, and not so obsessed with guns like you are.

So Australia is more peaceful since their gun laws?

FYI the murder rate in Australia was very low before they started banning guns and it is lower because like the UK their societal structure and all the variables involved are very different than ours

So we should imitate them.

No thanks

You can move there if you want to be like them

 

[Skull Pilot]

One school shooting in their history. Clearly they are doing something right and we are doing something wrong.

That has nothing to do with guns. What has stopped individuals with guns from currently walking into Australian schools? Nothing. Their gun control laws have nothing to do with their low number of public shootings.....the bad shooting of public shooters and a lack of desire to shoot more people in public has everything to do with it...since they still have public shootings, those shooters just haven't killed 3 or more people.......

Dumb luck does not show their gun control laws work...

Their gun control laws make for a more peaceful society overall, and not so obsessed with guns like you are.

So Australia is more peaceful since their gun laws?

FYI the murder rate in Australia was very low before they started banning guns and it is lower because like the UK their societal structure and all the variables involved are very different than ours

Correct; the UK has been frought with industrial scale violence for most of their history; large participants in both world wars most recently. Australia was founded as a penal colony.

The US? Largely untouched by war.

One would think that they would have the more violent societies. But I suppose that having seen industrial-scale violence up close has made the residents more resistant to inviting the weapons of that violence into their culture.

What a load of crap.

The vast majority of the murders in this country take place in poor urban areas plagued by crime. generational poverty, segregation. violence and a break down of the family

As a country we really don't give a shit because the murders are mostly young urban minorities killing other young urban minorities

 

[2aguy]

One school shooting in their history. Clearly they are doing something right and we are doing something wrong.

That has nothing to do with guns. What has stopped individuals with guns from currently walking into Australian schools? Nothing. Their gun control laws have nothing to do with their low number of public shootings.....the bad shooting of public shooters and a lack of desire to shoot more people in public has everything to do with it...since they still have public shootings, those shooters just haven't killed 3 or more people.......

Dumb luck does not show their gun control laws work...

Their gun control laws make for a more peaceful society overall, and not so obsessed with guns like you are.

No.... there culture so far has made them fairly peaceful. That is changing, if you look at the public shootings since the confiscation, the shooters tend to be foreign immigrants to Australia......which is funny in that they seem to be able to get illegal guns quite easily.

 

[2aguy]

One school shooting in their history. Clearly they are doing something right and we are doing something wrong.

That has nothing to do with guns. What has stopped individuals with guns from currently walking into Australian schools? Nothing. Their gun control laws have nothing to do with their low number of public shootings.....the bad shooting of public shooters and a lack of desire to shoot more people in public has everything to do with it...since they still have public shootings, those shooters just haven't killed 3 or more people.......

Dumb luck does not show their gun control laws work...

Their gun control laws make for a more peaceful society overall, and not so obsessed with guns like you are.

So Australia is more peaceful since their gun laws?

FYI the murder rate in Australia was very low before they started banning guns and it is lower because like the UK their societal structure and all the variables involved are very different than ours

So we should imitate them.

We would actually have to have the democrats in charge of our cities lock up known, violent, repeat gun offenders for long periods of time, and not let them out on bail and out of jail in less than 3 years....if we did that, our gun crime rate would go lower than it already is.

 

[2aguy]

So we should imitate them.

To imitate Australia, we would have to murder 93% of our population, and spread the rest into seven widely dispersed cites across the continent.

^^^^^^ ALERT!
View attachment 214261

Do the math ... 330 million Americans, 24 million Australians, in roughly the same area as the Continental US. Most Australians live within an hour drive of one one seven urban centres.

So you're saying that the gun problem in the US is due to our large population?

No.....our gun problem is due to a left wing belief that locking up violent gun offenders for long periods of time is unfair....and that encouraging single teenage mothers to raise young males without fathers is a good idea.....

That causes the gun crime we have.

 

[2aguy]

One school shooting in their history. Clearly they are doing something right and we are doing something wrong.

That has nothing to do with guns. What has stopped individuals with guns from currently walking into Australian schools? Nothing. Their gun control laws have nothing to do with their low number of public shootings.....the bad shooting of public shooters and a lack of desire to shoot more people in public has everything to do with it...since they still have public shootings, those shooters just haven't killed 3 or more people.......

Dumb luck does not show their gun control laws work...

Their gun control laws make for a more peaceful society overall, and not so obsessed with guns like you are.

So Australia is more peaceful since their gun laws?

FYI the murder rate in Australia was very low before they started banning guns and it is lower because like the UK their societal structure and all the variables involved are very different than ours

Correct; the UK has been frought with industrial scale violence for most of their history; large participants in both world wars most recently. Australia was founded as a penal colony.

The US? Largely untouched by war.

One would think that they would have the more violent societies. But I suppose that having seen industrial-scale violence up close has made the residents more resistant to inviting the weapons of that violence into their culture.

That might seem obvious but you missed a factor.... The populations of Europe were dessimated by those 2 world wars...... males of child creating years were slaughtered in the millions, and their countries were laid to waste...twice. That stunted their development and kept their social welfare systems ahead of their ability to breakdown the family unit. Now, they are catching up to the U.S....their rate of single teenage mothers raising young males without fathers has reached a point that they can no longer civilize those young males....hence the ability of those males to stab each other to death...which will eventually lead to more and more shootings as well......and then throw in the importation of violent 3rd world males who do not respect Western Civilization and moral society......and then toss in the attack on British police, where they are cutting manpower, resources and hobbling them with P.C. culture to the point they have allowed thousands of British young girls to be gang raped for years by muslim gangs......and did nothing when they discovered it was happening...