Nixon beat the shit out of JFK in the debates

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on radio.

 

[BiZoN]

Why were they debating radio? Where they paid off by the tv industry?

 

[freedombecki]

Why not review it?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbrcRKqLSRw]Kennedy-Nixon First Presidential Debate, 1960 - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Leweman]

True and in the election as well but Nixon ignored all the fraud and conceded.

 

[whitehall]

It seems that Nixon might have beat the shit out of the rich dilettante at the polls too but old Joe came through and his contacts in corrupt Chicago and the power of the liberal media turned Illinois and the election over to Camelot. Nixon was too smart to try to buck the liberal media in 1960 and conceded. Too bad he wasn't smart enough to realize that the liberal media has a long memory and a long corrupt arm. Who in the world would have thought that left wing reporters could have used unverified information from an unverified "informant" and kept the identity a secret for 30 years until he was dead and couldn't answer any questions? That's the power of the liberal media when they are united and committed.

 

[ginscpy]

Nixon won the debates.

 

[ginscpy]

but JFK aquiitted himself pretty good also

actually - the twop were pals in congress and it shows...............................

 

[ginscpy]

The 2 were pals in congress.

Shows.

 

[The Professor]

Nixon won the debates.

As I recall this was the first time a presidential debate was aired on both radio and TV. According to a poll of radio listeners, Nixon clearly won the debate; however those who watched the debates on TV thought Kennedy was clearly the winner. The difference of opinions between the radio and TV audiences was said to show the importance of image. Kennedy appeared youthful, confident and relaxed. However Nixon had refused makeup and sweated profusely under the camera lights. Nixon looked uncomfortable and some people said he looked dishonest. My knowledge comes from news reports at the time, but I found a link for you:

THE KENNEDY-NIXON PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES, 1960 - The Museum of Broadcast Communications

 

[Bfgrn]

Nixon won the debates.

As I recall this was the first time a presidential debate was aired on both radio and TV. According to a poll of radio listeners, Nixon clearly won the debate; however those who watched the debates on TV thought Kennedy was clearly the winner. The difference of opinions between the radio and TV audiences was said to show the importance of image. Kennedy appeared youthful, confident and relaxed. However Nixon had refused makeup and sweated profusely under the camera lights. Nixon looked uncomfortable and some people said he looked dishonest. My knowledge comes from news reports at the time, but I found a link for you:

THE KENNEDY-NIXON PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES, 1960 - The Museum of Broadcast Communications

You are right.

"Do you realize the responsibility I carry? I'm the only person standing between Richard Nixon and the White House."
President John F. Kennedy

 

[ginscpy]

I thought both Nixon and JFK aquited themsevelsces good in the debates.

 

[editec]

That debate clearly shows us the power of the IMAGE to affect an audience.

Those who listened on the radio mostly thought NiXXon won the debate.

Those who WATCHED and listened to it on TV mostly thought Kennedy won.

Kinda tells us something about how easily people can be manipulated, doesn't it?

Of course, NONE OF US, can be manipulated, right?

ONLY everybody else can be manipulated.

 

[Bfgrn]

Kennedy won the election, but he would have lost if he didn't show the courage Nixon lacked. The black vote put JFK over the top. And as we know now, Nixon would later cement blacks voting Democrat with his 'southern strategy'

The phone call

In October of 1960, less then three weeks before the presidential election, Martin Luther King Jr., already recognized as Black America’s most prominent civil rights leader, had been arrested in Georgia on a traffic technicality: he was still using his Alabama license, although by then he had lived in Georgia for three months.

A swift series of moves by the state’s segregationist power structure resulted in King being sentenced to four months of hard labor on a Georgia chain gang. He was quickly spirited away to the state’s maximum security prison, and many of his supporters, fearing for his life, urgently called both the Nixon and Kennedy camps for help.

Nixon, about to campaign in South Carolina in hopes of capturing the state’s normally solid Democratic vote, took no action. Kennedy took swift action. He made a brief telephone call to a frantic Coretta Scott King, speaking in soothing generalities and telling her, “If there’s anything I can do to help, please feel free to call on me.”

It’s likely that Kennedy did not at that moment realize the political implications of that call. Ever the pragmatist, he had resisted the pleas of several aides throughout the campaign that he take bolder public stands on civil rights issues. The telephone call came because one aide caught him late at night after a hard day of campaigning and staff meetings as he was about to turn in. The aide, Harris Wofford, pitched it as just a call to calm King’s fearful spouse. Kennedy replied, “What the hell. That’s a decent thing to do. Why not? Get her on the phone.”

King was soon released, unharmed, due to a groundswell of pressure directed by blacks and whites in numerous quarters toward Georgia officials (Robert F. Kennedy himself, who was managing his brother’s campaign called the judge who sentenced King to prison). At the time, the white media paid little attention to the call, which suited the Kennedys fine. But it likely transformed the black vote. King’s father, Martin Luther King Sr., a dominating, fire-and-brimstone preacher with wide influence throughout Black America, had, like many black Southerners, always been a Republican and until that moment had said he couldn’t vote for Kennedy because he was a Catholic.

(But) the day his son was released from prison, the elder King thundered from the pulpit of his famed Ebenezer Baptist Church in Atlanta: “I had expected to vote against Senator Kennedy because of his religion. But now he can be my president, Catholic or whatever he is… He has the moral courage to stand up for what he knows is right. I’ve got all my votes and I’ve got a suitcase, and I’m going to take them up there and dump them in his lap.”

 

[Polk]

It seems that Nixon might have beat the shit out of the rich dilettante at the polls too but old Joe came through and his contacts in corrupt Chicago and the power of the liberal media turned Illinois and the election over to Camelot. Nixon was too smart to try to buck the liberal media in 1960 and conceded. Too bad he wasn't smart enough to realize that the liberal media has a long memory and a long corrupt arm. Who in the world would have thought that left wing reporters could have used unverified information from an unverified "informant" and kept the identity a secret for 30 years until he was dead and couldn't answer any questions? That's the power of the liberal media when they are united and committed.

Kennedy had more electoral votes even if Nixon had carried Illinois.

 

[blastoff]

It seems that Nixon might have beat the shit out of the rich dilettante at the polls too but old Joe came through and his contacts in corrupt Chicago and the power of the liberal media turned Illinois and the election over to Camelot. Nixon was too smart to try to buck the liberal media in 1960 and conceded. Too bad he wasn't smart enough to realize that the liberal media has a long memory and a long corrupt arm. Who in the world would have thought that left wing reporters could have used unverified information from an unverified "informant" and kept the identity a secret for 30 years until he was dead and couldn't answer any questions? That's the power of the liberal media when they are united and committed.

I'm from the Chicago area and know all too well the corruption of the Dimocrat machine in the city, Cook country, and other parts of the state. And while they very well could have stolen the state for Kennedy, it had no outcome on Kennedy becoming our 35th president.

1960 Electoral College Votes:

Kennedy 303
Nixon 219
Byrd 15

Illinois had 27 Electoral votes. Subtracting them from Kennedy and adding them to Nixon would have made it 276 Kennedy, 246 Nixon.

 

[Katzndogz]

The Nixon-Kennedy debates were the first televised debates.

 

[ginscpy]

Why not review it?

Kennedy-Nixon First Presidential Debate, 1960 - YouTube

Thanks for the clip.

Interesting.

I was 7 at the time - don't remember that much.

My parents voted for Nixon - but I was pulling for JFK because I just liked the cut of the mans jib.