Nine things we may not have much longer.

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Younger people probably don't feel the sense of loss or even distress that some of us in the 'older generation', but the following nine things may not be with us much longer.

Agree? Rebuttal and disagreement would be welcomed. :)

1. The Post Office.

Get ready to imagine a world without the post office. They are so deeply in financial trouble that there is probably no way to sustain it long term. Email, Fed Ex, and UPS have just about wiped out the minimum revenue needed to keep the post office alive. Most of your mail every day is junk mail and bills.

2. The Check.

Britain is already laying the groundwork to do away with checks by 2018. It costs the financial system billions of dollars a year to process checks. Plastic cards and online transactions will lead to the eventual demise of the check. This plays right into the death of the post office. If you never paid your bills by mail and never received them by mail, the post office would absolutely go out of business.

3. The Newspaper.

The younger generation simply doesn't read the newspaper. They certainly don't subscribe to a daily delivered print edition. That may go the way of the milkman and the laundry man. As for reading the paper online, get ready to pay for it. The rise in mobile Internet devices and e-readers has caused all the newspaper and magazine publishers to form an alliance. They have met with Apple, Amazon, and the major cell phone companies to develop a model for paid subscription services.

4. The Book.

You say you will never give up the physical book that you hold in your hand and turn the literal pages. I said the same thing about downloading music fromiTunes. I wanted my hard copy CD. But I quickly changed my mind when I discovered that I could get albums for half the price without ever leaving home to get the latest music. The same thing will happen with books. You can browse a bookstore online and even read a preview chapter before you buy. And the price is less than half that of a real book. And think of the convenience! Once you start flicking your fingers on the screen instead of the book, you find that you are lost in the story, And can't wait to see what happens next, and you forget that you're holding a gadget instead of a book. Public libraries are already beginning to convert to more electronic transmission of information with the plus side being able to access that information from your home computer.

5. The Land Line Telephone.

Unless you have a large family and make a lot of local calls, you don't need it anymore. Most people keep it simply because they've always had it. But you are paying double charges for that extra service. All the cell phone companies will let you call customers using the same cell provider for no charge against your minutes

6. Music.

This is one of the saddest parts of the change story. The music industry is dying a slow death. Not just because of illegal downloading. It's the lack of innovative new music being given a chance to get to the people who would like to hear it.. Greed and corruption is the problem. The record labels and the radio conglomerates are simply self-destructing. Over 40% of the music purchased today is "catalog items," meaning traditional music that the public is familiar with. Older established artists. This is also true on the live concert circuit. To explore this fascinating and disturbing topic further, check out the book, "Appetite for Self-Destruction" by Steve Knopper, and the video documentary, "Before the Music Dies."

7. Television sets along with DVD recorder/players and other peripherals.

Revenues to the networks are down dramatically. Not just because of the economy. People are watching TV and movies streamed from their computers. And they're playing games and doing lots of other things that take up the time that used to be spent watching TV. Prime time shows have degenerated down to lower than the lowest common denominator. Cable rates are skyrocketing and commercials run about every 4 minutes and 30 seconds. Sales of DVD players and similar peripherals for home entertainment centers are declining. Network television, the television sets that receive the signals, and all the gadgets associated will inevitably be discontinued.

8. The "Things" That You Own.

Many of the very possessions that we used to own are still in our lives, but we may not actually own them in the future. They may simply reside in "the cloud." Today your computer has a hard drive and you store your pictures, music, movies, and documents. Your software is on a CD or DVD, and you can always re-install it if need be. But all of that is changing. Apple, Microsoft, and Google are all finishing up their latest "cloud services." That means that when you turn on a computer, the Internet will be built into the operating system. So, Windows, Google, and the Mac OS will be tied straight into the Internet. If you click an icon, it will open something in the Internet cloud. If you save something, it will be saved to the cloud. And you may pay a monthly subscription fee to the cloud provider. In this virtual world, you can access your music or your books, or your whatever from any laptop or handheld device. That's the good news. But, will you actually own any of this "stuff" or will it all be able to disappear at any moment in a big "Poof?" Will most of the things in our lives be disposable and whimsical? It makes you want to run to the closet and pull out that photo album, grab a book from the shelf, or open up a CD case and pull out the insert.

9. Privacy.

If there ever was a concept that we can look back on nostalgically, it would be privacy. That's gone. It's been gone for a long time anyway. There are cameras on the street, in most of the buildings, and even built into your computer and cell phone. But you can be sure that 24/7, "They" know who you are and where you are, right down to the GPS coordinates, and the Google Street View. If you buy something, your habit is put into a zillion profiles, and your ads will change to reflect those habits. And "They" will try to get you to buy something else. Again and again. All we will have that can't be changed are memories.
 
I save a ton of stuff to my hard drive. It will not go away. It will change form though. We will have memory chips rather than hard drives.

And moveing from one ISP or cloud provider to another is just too much hassle. YOu save stuff to the hard drive, not to the cloud.

Also books. I find it impossible to read ebooks on line. I have to have physical media. You can take books places you can't take electronics.

I have not had a TV for 4 years now. I have Itunes and I can you tube to see what I want to see. what I like, I can get on disc.


I have not had a land phone for four years either.

All my bills have been electronic for years as well. and all my payments.

In addition to post offices, traditional banks are going away as well. What you are seeing is replacement of branches by ATMs. Bank branches these days are less places to trade money and checks than they are sales offices for financial products. Once you have your direct deposit set up, and your ATM card, you are golden.

As for modern music, my kids prefer stuff that is contemporary with my parents back in the 30s and 40s.
 
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Younger people probably don't feel the sense of loss or even distress that some of us in the 'older generation', but the following nine things may not be with us much longer.

Agree? Rebuttal and disagreement would be welcomed. :)

1. The Post Office.

Get ready to imagine a world without the post office. They are so deeply in financial trouble that there is probably no way to sustain it long term. Email, Fed Ex, and UPS have just about wiped out the minimum revenue needed to keep the post office alive. Most of your mail every day is junk mail and bills.

2. The Check.

Britain is already laying the groundwork to do away with checks by 2018. It costs the financial system billions of dollars a year to process checks. Plastic cards and online transactions will lead to the eventual demise of the check. This plays right into the death of the post office. If you never paid your bills by mail and never received them by mail, the post office would absolutely go out of business.

3. The Newspaper.

The younger generation simply doesn't read the newspaper. They certainly don't subscribe to a daily delivered print edition. That may go the way of the milkman and the laundry man. As for reading the paper online, get ready to pay for it. The rise in mobile Internet devices and e-readers has caused all the newspaper and magazine publishers to form an alliance. They have met with Apple, Amazon, and the major cell phone companies to develop a model for paid subscription services.

4. The Book.

You say you will never give up the physical book that you hold in your hand and turn the literal pages. I said the same thing about downloading music fromiTunes. I wanted my hard copy CD. But I quickly changed my mind when I discovered that I could get albums for half the price without ever leaving home to get the latest music. The same thing will happen with books. You can browse a bookstore online and even read a preview chapter before you buy. And the price is less than half that of a real book. And think of the convenience! Once you start flicking your fingers on the screen instead of the book, you find that you are lost in the story, And can't wait to see what happens next, and you forget that you're holding a gadget instead of a book. Public libraries are already beginning to convert to more electronic transmission of information with the plus side being able to access that information from your home computer.

5. The Land Line Telephone.

Unless you have a large family and make a lot of local calls, you don't need it anymore. Most people keep it simply because they've always had it. But you are paying double charges for that extra service. All the cell phone companies will let you call customers using the same cell provider for no charge against your minutes

6. Music.

This is one of the saddest parts of the change story. The music industry is dying a slow death. Not just because of illegal downloading. It's the lack of innovative new music being given a chance to get to the people who would like to hear it.. Greed and corruption is the problem. The record labels and the radio conglomerates are simply self-destructing. Over 40% of the music purchased today is "catalog items," meaning traditional music that the public is familiar with. Older established artists. This is also true on the live concert circuit. To explore this fascinating and disturbing topic further, check out the book, "Appetite for Self-Destruction" by Steve Knopper, and the video documentary, "Before the Music Dies."

7. Television sets along with DVD recorder/players and other peripherals.

Revenues to the networks are down dramatically. Not just because of the economy. People are watching TV and movies streamed from their computers. And they're playing games and doing lots of other things that take up the time that used to be spent watching TV. Prime time shows have degenerated down to lower than the lowest common denominator. Cable rates are skyrocketing and commercials run about every 4 minutes and 30 seconds. Sales of DVD players and similar peripherals for home entertainment centers are declining. Network television, the television sets that receive the signals, and all the gadgets associated will inevitably be discontinued.

8. The "Things" That You Own.

Many of the very possessions that we used to own are still in our lives, but we may not actually own them in the future. They may simply reside in "the cloud." Today your computer has a hard drive and you store your pictures, music, movies, and documents. Your software is on a CD or DVD, and you can always re-install it if need be. But all of that is changing. Apple, Microsoft, and Google are all finishing up their latest "cloud services." That means that when you turn on a computer, the Internet will be built into the operating system. So, Windows, Google, and the Mac OS will be tied straight into the Internet. If you click an icon, it will open something in the Internet cloud. If you save something, it will be saved to the cloud. And you may pay a monthly subscription fee to the cloud provider. In this virtual world, you can access your music or your books, or your whatever from any laptop or handheld device. That's the good news. But, will you actually own any of this "stuff" or will it all be able to disappear at any moment in a big "Poof?" Will most of the things in our lives be disposable and whimsical? It makes you want to run to the closet and pull out that photo album, grab a book from the shelf, or open up a CD case and pull out the insert.

9. Privacy.

If there ever was a concept that we can look back on nostalgically, it would be privacy. That's gone. It's been gone for a long time anyway. There are cameras on the street, in most of the buildings, and even built into your computer and cell phone. But you can be sure that 24/7, "They" know who you are and where you are, right down to the GPS coordinates, and the Google Street View. If you buy something, your habit is put into a zillion profiles, and your ads will change to reflect those habits. And "They" will try to get you to buy something else. Again and again. All we will have that can't be changed are memories.

1. The Post Offices: I won't miss it at all.
2. The Check: Again, I won't miss it.
3. The Newspaper: I don't miss having to turn the large pages.
4. Books: I much prefer books. I will miss them if they go away.
5. Land Line Telephone: I don't miss it.
6. Music: I disagree with the premise.
7. Television sets along with DVD recorder/players and other peripherals: I don't miss having a TV and its peripherals taking up room in my family room, but still do enjoy watching a movie on a larger screen from time to time.
8. The Things That I Own: I'm shakey on that premise, too.
9. Privacy: Totally agree.
 
Great post and I am in agreement with almost everthing, especially #9, Ever notice how almost everone walks around with a phone in their hand. I have never seen so many important people that need to be in instant communications with the world. I left my phone at home yesterday and guess what, the world went on without me. Go figure.
 
I save a ton of stuff to my hard drive. It will not go away. It will change form though. We will have memory chips rather than hard drives.

And moveing from one ISP or cloud provider to antother is just too much hassle. YOu save stuff to the hard drive, not to the cloud.

Also books. I find it impossible to read ebooks on line. I have to have physical media. You can take books places you can't take electronics.

I have not had a TV for 4 years now. I have Itunes and I can you tube to see what I want to see. what I like, I can get on disc.


I have not had a land phone for four years either.

All my bills have been electronic for years as well. and all my payments.

In addition to post offices, traditional banks are going away as well. What you are seeing is replacement of branches by ATMs. Bank branches these days are less places to trade money and checks than they are sales offices for financial products. Once you have your direct deposit set up, and your ATM card, you are golden.

As for modern music, my kids prefer stuff that is contemporary with my parents back in the 30s and 40s.

The way I'm reading it though, many of the things we're accustomed to and take for granted may go away. Like that hard drive on your computer. We all know how quickly a computer becomes obsolete and when you can no longer buy software to load onto a hard drive or buy a computer with a hard drive, you eventually will have to use something else.

The same with music. I've been aware for a long time how few melodies are now being written. Most modern 'music' now is just noise without too much to differentiate one 'song' from another. And if CD players and CDs become a thing of the past, and our existing equipment finally wears out and quits, we will be dependent on that 'cloud' to find Bach or Mozart or a favorite old 40's swing or a Neal Diamond or Elvis rendition.
 
5. The Land Line Telephone.

Unless you have a large family and make a lot of local calls, you don't need it anymore. Most people keep it simply because they've always had it. But you are paying double charges for that extra service. All the cell phone companies will let you call customers using the same cell provider for no charge against your minutes
I pay $9.99 a month for Vonage.... Unlimited local and long distance calls. Your list of dinosaurs that need to be extinct is dead on.
 
1. Post Office: Where do I go when I want to send a birthday card to someone?

2. Checks: What do I do if I want to send someone money in that birthday card?

3. Newspapers: How am I going to light my charcoal grill? Oh wait, they will probably get banned. Ok, what will I use to line the bird cage?

4. Books: I would miss these terribly. Kindle, schmindle. You can't buy .50 'kindle' books at Good Will.

5. Landlines: I've gone over the numbers every which way and it's cheaper for us to still have a land line. That may change in the future but for now we're going the cheapest route for us.

6. Music: lots of music today sucks. I mean really sucks. You can still find good stuff you just have to look for it.

7. tv sets and dvd players: Tell me about it! Lots of trouble finding dvd recorders and I settled for a refurbished one. And honestly? I don't use it near as much as I did even a few years ago. Well, the recording part. We still use the dvd player pretty frequently. As for tv sets . . . I don't get that. Sure watching stuff online is great but . . . what about when you want to watch a movie with friends/family? I don't see them going away altogether.

8. Things you own: Lots of my music is digital, purchased online. But lots of it is from cds and we still buy cds. We back everything up onto an external hard drive and I don't like the idea of my 'stuff' just floating around out there. I'm sure I'll never get over the 'physical' part of owning my stuff. Gotta tell you I don't know the last time I actually had pictures printed out. We have TONS of photo albums but I haven't printed pics out in several years. They're all on the computer. It's one of my 'things to do'. Dump everything onto some camera cards and take them down and print them out and put them in albums. One of these days. . . . .

9. Privacy: I swear I'm going to throw away my atm card and credit card and go back to cash. You could pinpoint my entire day based on my atm use alone. Blarg.
 
Younger people probably don't feel the sense of loss or even distress that some of us in the 'older generation', but the following nine things may not be with us much longer.

Agree? Rebuttal and disagreement would be welcomed. :)

1. The Post Office. This won't be missed. The only thing I get is junk mail and letters from my mom. FedEx and UPS will out perform the post offc again.

Get ready to imagine a world without the post office. They are so deeply in financial trouble that there is probably no way to sustain it long term. Email, Fed Ex, and UPS have just about wiped out the minimum revenue needed to keep the post office alive. Most of your mail every day is junk mail and bills.

2. The Check. I think this will stay for another 30 years. It's far safer than a CC or debit card.

Britain is already laying the groundwork to do away with checks by 2018. It costs the financial system billions of dollars a year to process checks. Plastic cards and online transactions will lead to the eventual demise of the check. This plays right into the death of the post office. If you never paid your bills by mail and never received them by mail, the post office would absolutely go out of business.

3. The Newspaper. wont miss it

The younger generation simply doesn't read the newspaper. They certainly don't subscribe to a daily delivered print edition. That may go the way of the milkman and the laundry man. As for reading the paper online, get ready to pay for it. The rise in mobile Internet devices and e-readers has caused all the newspaper and magazine publishers to form an alliance. They have met with Apple, Amazon, and the major cell phone companies to develop a model for paid subscription services.

4. The Book. Doubt this. While it may decline, you can't cure up with a good pc screen.

You say you will never give up the physical book that you hold in your hand and turn the literal pages. I said the same thing about downloading music fromiTunes. I wanted my hard copy CD. But I quickly changed my mind when I discovered that I could get albums for half the price without ever leaving home to get the latest music. The same thing will happen with books. You can browse a bookstore online and even read a preview chapter before you buy. And the price is less than half that of a real book. And think of the convenience! Once you start flicking your fingers on the screen instead of the book, you find that you are lost in the story, And can't wait to see what happens next, and you forget that you're holding a gadget instead of a book. Public libraries are already beginning to convert to more electronic transmission of information with the plus side being able to access that information from your home computer.

5. The Land Line Telephone. If this ends, I'm disconnected b/c I think of cell phones as electronic leases. I serously hate these things.

Unless you have a large family and make a lot of local calls, you don't need it anymore. Most people keep it simply because they've always had it. But you are paying double charges for that extra service. All the cell phone companies will let you call customers using the same cell provider for no charge against your minutes

6. Music. I turned on MTV the other day. It was the same crap I stopped listening to 10-15 years ago. VH1 had the best hard rock songs ever. Nothing past the 90's was on the list [that I saw]

This is one of the saddest parts of the change story. The music industry is dying a slow death. Not just because of illegal downloading. It's the lack of innovative new music being given a chance to get to the people who would like to hear it.. Greed and corruption is the problem. The record labels and the radio conglomerates are simply self-destructing. Over 40% of the music purchased today is "catalog items," meaning traditional music that the public is familiar with. Older established artists. This is also true on the live concert circuit. To explore this fascinating and disturbing topic further, check out the book, "Appetite for Self-Destruction" by Steve Knopper, and the video documentary, "Before the Music Dies."

7. Television sets along with DVD recorder/players and other peripherals. not in our lifetime. People will like to whatch tv as a family for another 20-30 years. I don't see randomly downloading whatever taking over for a while yet.

Revenues to the networks are down dramatically. Not just because of the economy. People are watching TV and movies streamed from their computers. And they're playing games and doing lots of other things that take up the time that used to be spent watching TV. Prime time shows have degenerated down to lower than the lowest common denominator. Cable rates are skyrocketing and commercials run about every 4 minutes and 30 seconds. Sales of DVD players and similar peripherals for home entertainment centers are declining. Network television, the television sets that receive the signals, and all the gadgets associated will inevitably be discontinued.

8. The "Things" That You Own.

Many of the very possessions that we used to own are still in our lives, but we may not actually own them in the future. They may simply reside in "the cloud." Today your computer has a hard drive and you store your pictures, music, movies, and documents. Your software is on a CD or DVD, and you can always re-install it if need be. But all of that is changing. Apple, Microsoft, and Google are all finishing up their latest "cloud services." That means that when you turn on a computer, the Internet will be built into the operating system. So, Windows, Google, and the Mac OS will be tied straight into the Internet. If you click an icon, it will open something in the Internet cloud. If you save something, it will be saved to the cloud. And you may pay a monthly subscription fee to the cloud provider. In this virtual world, you can access your music or your books, or your whatever from any laptop or handheld device. That's the good news. But, will you actually own any of this "stuff" or will it all be able to disappear at any moment in a big "Poof?" Will most of the things in our lives be disposable and whimsical? It makes you want to run to the closet and pull out that photo album, grab a book from the shelf, or open up a CD case and pull out the insert.

9. Privacy. That died in the 90's

If there ever was a concept that we can look back on nostalgically, it would be privacy. That's gone. It's been gone for a long time anyway. There are cameras on the street, in most of the buildings, and even built into your computer and cell phone. But you can be sure that 24/7, "They" know who you are and where you are, right down to the GPS coordinates, and the Google Street View. If you buy something, your habit is put into a zillion profiles, and your ads will change to reflect those habits. And "They" will try to get you to buy something else. Again and again. All we will have that can't be changed are memories.

10] Trains
Quick, name 2 people that you know have taken a train, not at the same time.
I have and my Dad did after he got back from Korea.

11] Food
Our governemnt is going to regulate what we can and can't have. "For our own good."

12] Cash?
I've been hearing rumors for years they are going to do away with the penny.

13] stamps
Mail goes, no need for stamps
 
Even if you have to print your own? :)

No. However, take away CASH and there are a whole lot of basic necessities of life (food, etc...) that I refuse to put on a credit card because there is no reason to, which I will not be able to buy.

I refuse to use my cc to pay for food or gas. By the time you get around to paying for it, it's long gone!
 
5. The Land Line Telephone.

Unless you have a large family and make a lot of local calls, you don't need it anymore. Most people keep it simply because they've always had it. But you are paying double charges for that extra service. All the cell phone companies will let you call customers using the same cell provider for no charge against your minutes
I pay $9.99 a month for Vonage.... Unlimited local and long distance calls. Your list of dinosaurs that need to be extinct is dead on.

Mr. Foxfyre and I each have a cell phone on minimum usage plans--each costs us $20/month for a limited number of daytime minutes--those allowed evenings and weekend are more than sufficient for our needs even during family crises and other heavy usage times. We don't get internet on our phones. We don't text. We could take pictures but don't. We make and received calls. That's it.

However, we have one of those multi phone wireless systems for our main land line with phones set in the kitchen, office, family room, etc. And when friends and family called, we can each pick up a phone and have a group chat. Can't do that with our cell phones unless we set up a conference call which is a pain and expensive.

I don't want to give up that capability.
 
1. Cigarettes
Use and frequency is way down as are places to smoke. Prices are way up

2. Tombstones
Cremation is gaining acceptance and your future "monument" may be on Facebook

3. Voting Booths
Everyone will be able to vote on-line. No need to pull the lever

4. Classrooms
Kids will attend school through a video link and computer access

5. Playgrounds
They are getting smaller and smaller and less and less fun
 
5. The Land Line Telephone.

Unless you have a large family and make a lot of local calls, you don't need it anymore. Most people keep it simply because they've always had it. But you are paying double charges for that extra service. All the cell phone companies will let you call customers using the same cell provider for no charge against your minutes
I pay $9.99 a month for Vonage.... Unlimited local and long distance calls. Your list of dinosaurs that need to be extinct is dead on.

Mr. Foxfyre and I each have a cell phone on minimum usage plans--each costs us $20/month for a limited number of daytime minutes--those allowed evenings and weekend are more than sufficient for our needs even during family crises and other heavy usage times. We don't get internet on our phones. We don't text. We could take pictures but don't. We make and received calls. That's it.

However, we have one of those multi phone wireless systems for our main land line with phones set in the kitchen, office, family room, etc. And when friends and family called, we can each pick up a phone and have a group chat. Can't do that with our cell phones unless we set up a conference call which is a pain and expensive.

I don't want to give up that capability.

Oh yeah I didn't even think about that. We the college kid calls we can both be on the phone with her at the same time. Plus, we have Verizon for phone and internet and if we dropped our landline our internet charge would go up around $8 more per month.
 
Even if you have to print your own? :)

No. However, take away CASH and there are a whole lot of basic necessities of life (food, etc...) that I refuse to put on a credit card because there is no reason to, which I will not be able to buy.

I refuse to use my cc to pay for food or gas. By the time you get around to paying for it, it's long gone!

We do have oil company credit cards for gasoline purchases because it is soooo convenient to just pull into a pump, insert card, get fuel, and leave. Not only is it convenient, but it helps provide a permanent record for tax purposes. We also prefer to use a credit card for major purchases because of the extra insurance protection it provides--if the product is faulty or is lost or stolen, we have recourse when we use a credit card.

We do pay all credit card bills in full just as soon as the bill arrives though, and never pay a penny in interest or penalties. So far there is no annual fee on any of our cards either.

We write one check a month to the church. All other transactions are via debit card or CC with bills paid on line. If the walk in bank closes and checks go away, I'm sure the church will figure out a way to use debit cards as easily as it accepts checks and cash.

We don't use credit cards ever for food purchases, but do use our debit card in lieu of cash. We carry or need very little cash these days.
 
...... All other transactions are via debit card or CC with bills paid on line. If the walk in bank closes and checks go away, I'm sure the church will figure out a way to use debit cards as easily as it accepts checks and cash.

We don't use credit cards ever for food purchases, but do use our debit card in lieu of cash. We carry or need very little cash these days.

I do not and will not use a debit card. Never have and never will. I do not like the idea of giving anyone immediate, direct access to my bank account. I use the CC if it's something more than I care to carry around in cash.

I have no issue carrying several hundred dollars in cash with me at times.
 
Just because we have a new technology that's faster, easier, and more efficient doesn't mean the old technology will disappear. It's really a matter of do we like the old technology.

Just about everybody believed TV would be the end of motion picture theaters. Why do we pay 50 bucks to take a date or the family to a movie when we can choose from thousands of movies to watch at home any time we please for few dollars. We do so because we just like the experience of going out to a movie.

I think there will always be a market for books although they may not be as many produced. The good thing and bad thing about technology is that it is always changing and improving. To read a paper copy of a book, you do not need a special device, you don't need to charge batteries, and there are no compatibly problems. Unlike books on audio tape or web sites that no longer exist, the books in my library are just as readable now as they were 20 years ago. I read books on my iPad, but for me reading a paper copy is totally different experience.
 

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