Next time some idiot says "Our forefathers didn't base this country on God".....

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    George Washington's 1789 Thanksgiving Day Proclamation

    WHEREAS it is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey His will, to be grateful for His benefits, and humbly to implore His protection and favour; and Whereas both Houfes of Congress have, by their joint committee, requefted me "to recommend to the people of the United States a DAY OF PUBLICK THANSGIVING and PRAYER, to be observed by acknowledging with grateful hearts the many and signal favors of Almighty God, especially by affording them an opportunity peaceably to eftablifh a form of government for their safety and happiness:"

    NOW THEREFORE, I do recommend and affign THURSDAY, the TWENTY-SIXTH DAY of NOVEMBER next, to be devoted by the people of thefe States to the fervice of that great and glorious Being who is the beneficent author of all the good that was, that is, or that will be; that we may then all unite in rendering unto Him our fincere and humble thanksfor His kind care and protection of the people of this country previous to their becoming a nation; for the fignal and manifold mercies and the favorable interpofitions of His providence in the courfe and conclufion of the late war; for the great degree of tranquility, union, and plenty which we have fince enjoyed;-- for the peaceable and rational manner in which we have been enable to eftablish Conftitutions of government for our fafety and happinefs, and particularly the national one now lately instituted;-- for the civil and religious liberty with which we are bleffed, and the means we have of acquiring and diffufing useful knowledge;-- and, in general, for all the great and various favours which He has been pleafed to confer upon us.

    And also, that we may then unite in moft humbly offering our prayers and fupplications to the great Lord and Ruler of Nations and befeech Him to pardon our national and other tranfgreffions;-- to enable us all, whether in publick or private ftations, to perform our feveral and relative duties properly and punctually; to render our National Government a bleffing to all the people by conftantly being a Government of wife, juft, and conftitutional laws, difcreetly and faithfully executed and obeyed; to protect and guide all fovereigns and nations (especially fuch as have shewn kindnefs unto us); and to blefs them with good governments, peace, and concord; to promote the knowledge and practice of true religion and virtue, and the increafe of fcience among them and us; and, generally to grant unto all mankind fuch a degree of temporal profperity as he alone knows to be beft.

    GIVEN under my hand, at the city of New-York, the third day of October, in the year of our Lord, one thousand feven hundred and eighty-nine.

    (signed) G. Washington
     
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    Another interesting tidbit about Washington: Originally, the oath of office for the president did not conclude with the words "...so help me God." When Washington took the oath for the first time, he adlibbed it. When he took the oath for his second term, the said it again. Adams and Jefferson both followed his lead, and it eventually became a standard part of the oath.
     
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    I hope you aren't holding your breath waiting on a response. :laugh:
     
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    How would anyone know which God that Washington was making reference to? There were a lot of them around at that time.
     
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    There's no question Washington and most of the founders were devout Christians. However, there is no evidence of Christian theology influencing the US Constitution. The Federalists Papers, a lengthy defense of the Constitution written by Jay, Hamilton and Adams explains in intricate detail the basis and rationale behind our strong nation-binding document. Nowhere in the hundreds of pages of Publius is any part of the Bible mentioned. The Federal Republic they created has no basis in Biblical doctrine.
     
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    Gabby's right. She must have read that new book, "George Washington was Actually a Hindi."
     
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    As odd as the word choice in the sentence next time some idiot says our forefathers "didn't base this country on God" is, I'll venture a response.

    God is absent in the constituion. Were our founding fathers almost entirely Christian? Indeed. Fortunately, they didn't care what religion everyone else was, so gave us the freedom to choose any religion, or none at all.
     
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    Our founders knew that religion and government shouldn't be intertwined. Many of their ancestors had come to America to escape religious persecution (i.e. John Adams and Benjamin Franklin who descended from Puritans) by the English crown. George Washington's Thanksgiving proclamation was HIS opinion and not a binding law; people were free to ignore it if they saw fit. Thanksgiving Day as we know it now was designated by President Lincoln.

    Those who seek to post the Ten Commandments in courthouses, who seek to force children to pray in government funded schools, seek to use the power of law to coerce people into practicing, for the most part, Protestant Christianity. Catholics, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, etc. would be subject to persecution in their ideal America. If they had their way, the name of the country would be changed to "The United Christian States of America"

    It's scary, but it's true.

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    As is the case now, so what's your point? Look deeper into the writings of our founders and you will find many mentions of an almighty creator, God, etc in which they based all their decisions upon including the documents.
     
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    Maybe your way would be "The United Secular States of America.

    Scary but, true!!
     

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