Next Obama Czar Position: "Pond Scum Czar"

It's dumb idea if it costs too much, does not deliver the efficiency of gasoline or the engine performance of gasoline and is not as readily available as gasoline.
Here's the rub. Now read carefully and understand the words as they are written and not what you want them to state so you can deliver your typical pat response.
ANY fuel which can be used instead of or in concert with current fossil fuels that is readily available, costs no more or hopefully LESS than gasoline, delivers the same or better fuel efficiency and delivers the same or better engine performance is a GOOD idea.
To date and for the distant foreseeable future no such fuel exists or will exist.

The problem is there are people who want to ration our current energy sources by making them less available and increasing the cost so as to convince us there is no alternative but to conform and obey those on the enviro wacko front.
Of course when one peels back the layers of the onion, this all boils down to one thing. Money. People on the inside of the alternative or green fuel industries stand to become very wealthy and of course with any government regulations come new taxes.
Right now the EPA is being hauled into court because in the legal opinion of several prominent business people and many elected officials has overstepped it's authority onlevel that has reached absurdity.
Arguments begin on Tuesday 2/28 at the US Court of Appeals in Washington, DC.
My advice to all you lefties who think the EPA is helping anyone with these proposed new draconian regulations is, be careful what you wish for, you might just get it.
Cultivating Algae for Liquid Fuel Production

GreenFuel bioreactor in field test
GreenFuel Technologies in Cambridge, MA is field testing a closed system that uses the CO2 in power plant flue gases (13% of flue gases in the test) to feed algae. (3,4) In so doing, it significantly reduced the CO2 concentration in the exhaust by 82.3% (+/-12.5%) on sunny days and by 50.1% (+/- 6.5%) on cloudy days during the beta-test at the Cogeneration Plant at MIT. (5) The process also removed 85.9% (+/- 2.1%) of nitrogen oxides. And, not only will the GreenFuel Bioreactors reduce carbon and NOx emissions, but the company estimates the cost of a full-scale system installation to be 20% to 40% less than that of a comparable SCR system (pollutant scrubbers).
Using technology licensed from a NASA project, GreenFuel constructs triangular-shaped bioreactors from polycarbonate tubing two to three meters long and 10-20 cm in diameter. The hypotenuse of the triangles face the sun. Flue gases are introduced at the bottom of the hypotenuse and flow up while the media containing the algae flow in the opposite direction. From 15% to 30% of the algal media are harvested each day. The use of tubes in which to grow the algae overcomes the usual surface area limitation of ponds. In this case the turbulent mixing of the algal media with CO2 in the tubes and the speed at which the fluid moves determine how fast the algae grow.
"Until now, it was proving that the technology works. Now, basically, it's proving that the economics behind the technology work," said Isaac Berzin, chief technology officer. "The idea behind all this is that it's not a charity. If it makes sense econo*mically, it will happen." "I read descriptions of all this (previous) research, and it was clear to me that the limiting factor was the engineering side of the system," he said. "Algae can take (carbon dioxide), eat it, and produce algae, that's a known fact. But if your system fails, it's a problem with the system, not the algae."
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A GreenFuel Technologies bioreactor in operation. Photos courtesy GreenFuel Technologies.
GreenFuel estimates that 70% of the power plants in the United States have enough space and 'food' to install a full complement of Bioreactor arrays. In the United States about 60% of the oil we use is for ground transportation—cars, vans, and trucks—while only about 25% is used as electricity. Potentially this means that GreenFuel reactors might be able to provide 20*-25% of the fuel needed to meet our transportation needs.
The GreenFuel Bioreactors could be used to fuel the power plant from which the algae are being fed. So you could build a power plant—including the reactors—and only have to provide it with enough fuel to get the bioreactors going! These reactors could also be used in breweries, fed from the excess CO2 that most breweries just waste.

Wonderful.....Now we wait for marketing and distribution.....Oh wait. No one knows yet how this stuff will work in an automobile engine.
And with the billions in research and development, the cost of pond scum fuel will be unaffordable.
Biodiesel is diesel fuel, Oh wait, everyone knows how diesel fuel works in a diesel automobile engine.
 
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(CNSNews.com) - "The American people aren't stupid," President Obama said on Thursday -- as he insisted that drilling for more oil on U.S. territory is "not a strategy to solve our energy challenge."

The president's solution? Algae, for one.

"There are no quick fixes to the nation's eneergy problem, the president said, dismissing Republican calls for more drilling as a "bumper sticker."
"We’re making new investments in the development of gasoline and diesel and jet fuel that’s actually made from a plant-like substance -- algae," the president said at a campaign stop in Florida. "You’ve got a bunch of algae out here, right? If we can figure out how to make energy out of that, we’ll be doing all right."

Obama's Energy Plan -- Algae

So Any bets on the new position on who will get the nod for 'Pond Scum Czar'?

We Need a Pond Scum Czar


Maybe he could use Peter Gleick. the "climate scientist" who faked the Heartland memo?
 
You are acting as if algae derived fuel is a dumb idea when in fact it is the most promising method we have for producing plant based motor fuel that does not cut into the food supply.

And it's years if not decades away from being commercially viable. While we're waiting for these techniques to become practical on a large scale, what exactly should we do in the meantime?

We need to exploit our own energy resources to the highest extent possible while simultaneously developing alternatives.

That's just common sense.
 
You are acting as if algae derived fuel is a dumb idea when in fact it is the most promising method we have for producing plant based motor fuel that does not cut into the food supply.

And it's years if not decades away from being commercially viable. While we're waiting for these techniques to become practical on a large scale, what exactly should we do in the meantime?

We need to exploit our own energy resources to the highest extent possible while simultaneously developing alternatives.

That's just common sense.

Whoa, wait a minute! "Common" sense is so...common. It is therefore relegated to the "common" people. "Common" is so far below the lofty liberal/progressive thought process that it cannot occur among those elites.
 
The American people aren't stupid, because the beautiful fabric woven by the two men offering such to the Emperor isn't visible to stupid people. The smart people will see the fine weaving, the embedded jewels. the beautiful folds and sheen.
 
The American people aren't stupid, because the beautiful fabric woven by the two men offering such to the Emperor isn't visible to stupid people. The smart people will see the fine weaving, the embedded jewels. the beautiful folds and sheen.

If that is the criteria for separating the stupid people from the brilliant ones, count me dumber than a box of rocks, 'cause all I see is some scrawny, nekkid clown struting like a jake turkey.
 
(CNSNews.com) - "The American people aren't stupid," President Obama said on Thursday -- as he insisted that drilling for more oil on U.S. territory is "not a strategy to solve our energy challenge."

The president's solution? Algae, for one.

"There are no quick fixes to the nation's eneergy problem, the president said, dismissing Republican calls for more drilling as a "bumper sticker."
"We’re making new investments in the development of gasoline and diesel and jet fuel that’s actually made from a plant-like substance -- algae," the president said at a campaign stop in Florida. "You’ve got a bunch of algae out here, right? If we can figure out how to make energy out of that, we’ll be doing all right."

Obama's Energy Plan -- Algae

So Any bets on the new position on who will get the nod for 'Pond Scum Czar'?

We Need a Pond Scum Czar

Pond Scum Czar.....you running for that job? Or still hoping to get elected President?
 
You are acting as if algae derived fuel is a dumb idea when in fact it is the most promising method we have for producing plant based motor fuel that does not cut into the food supply.

If he's just now thinking that we should develop a purpose for it I think it's too late to keep the price of gas down this Summer. If he had introduced this idea 3 years ago maybe we would have found out by now if it was a viable alternative.
 
(CNSNews.com) - "The American people aren't stupid," President Obama said on Thursday -- as he insisted that drilling for more oil on U.S. territory is "not a strategy to solve our energy challenge."

The president's solution? Algae, for one.

"There are no quick fixes to the nation's eneergy problem, the president said, dismissing Republican calls for more drilling as a "bumper sticker."
"We’re making new investments in the development of gasoline and diesel and jet fuel that’s actually made from a plant-like substance -- algae," the president said at a campaign stop in Florida. "You’ve got a bunch of algae out here, right? If we can figure out how to make energy out of that, we’ll be doing all right."

Obama's Energy Plan -- Algae

So Any bets on the new position on who will get the nod for 'Pond Scum Czar'?

We Need a Pond Scum Czar


Maybe he could use Peter Gleick. the "climate scientist" who faked the Heartland memo?

Why Not Mikey Mann?:eusa_whistle:

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You are acting as if algae derived fuel is a dumb idea when in fact it is the most promising method we have for producing plant based motor fuel that does not cut into the food supply.

If he's just now thinking that we should develop a purpose for it I think it's too late to keep the price of gas down this Summer. If he had introduced this idea 3 years ago maybe we would have found out by now if it was a viable alternative.

He was too busy trying to get Cap N Tax passed...while imposing moratoriums on drilling...
 
obama thinks that increasing the supply of oil will not reduce the price. I don't think he even believes it.

Oil can be made from algae. Algae is very cheap. Making oil from algae is very expensive. Most of the costs are associated with the removal and disposition of lignin which is a very highly toxic poison which is a byproduct of the algae to oil process. It could be the mother of all environmental nightmares.
 
obama thinks that increasing the supply of oil will not reduce the price. I don't think he even believes it.

Oil can be made from algae. Algae is very cheap. Making oil from algae is very expensive. Most of the costs are associated with the removal and disposition of lignin which is a very highly toxic poison which is a byproduct of the algae to oil process. It could be the mother of all environmental nightmares.


And what of CFL's? Supposed to be enviro-friendly alternative to the incadescant...until you drop one...
 
(CNSNews.com) - "The American people aren't stupid," President Obama said on Thursday -- as he insisted that drilling for more oil on U.S. territory is "not a strategy to solve our energy challenge."

The president's solution? Algae, for one.

"There are no quick fixes to the nation's eneergy problem, the president said, dismissing Republican calls for more drilling as a "bumper sticker."
"We’re making new investments in the development of gasoline and diesel and jet fuel that’s actually made from a plant-like substance -- algae," the president said at a campaign stop in Florida. "You’ve got a bunch of algae out here, right? If we can figure out how to make energy out of that, we’ll be doing all right."

Obama's Energy Plan -- Algae

So Any bets on the new position on who will get the nod for 'Pond Scum Czar'?

We Need a Pond Scum Czar


Maybe he could use Peter Gleick. the "climate scientist" who faked the Heartland memo?
Don't you mean the REAL memo, shown to have been written by Joe Bast the president of Hartland institute, that deniers deny is real like deniers always do.
 
Just like the Rather docs were real

He faked some documents

Truth is hard for the Left
In fact, it is their worst enemy
No one has been able to show that Rather faked anything. At most he was sent fake docs, but no one has even been able to prove the docs were fake. CON$ just assume they were fake. CON$ assume any lie is the truth if it supports their lies.
 
Just like the Rather docs were real

He faked some documents

Truth is hard for the Left
In fact, it is their worst enemy
No one has been able to show that Rather faked anything. At most he was sent fake docs, but no one has even been able to prove the docs were fake. CON$ just assume they were fake. CON$ assume any lie is the truth if it supports their lies.

No Only the typewriter those papers were prepared on didn't exist at the time frame.

4 people in CBS lost thier jobs over it...hack.
 
Just like the Rather docs were real

He faked some documents

Truth is hard for the Left
In fact, it is their worst enemy
No one has been able to show that Rather faked anything. At most he was sent fake docs, but no one has even been able to prove the docs were fake. CON$ just assume they were fake. CON$ assume any lie is the truth if it supports their lies.

No Only the typewriter those papers were prepared on didn't exist at the time frame.

4 people in CBS lost thier jobs over it...hack.
That bullshit has been thoroughly debunked, but you already knew that.
 
Just like the Rather docs were real

He faked some documents

Truth is hard for the Left
In fact, it is their worst enemy
No one has been able to show that Rather faked anything. At most he was sent fake docs, but no one has even been able to prove the docs were fake. CON$ just assume they were fake. CON$ assume any lie is the truth if it supports their lies.
So CBS fired Mr Rather for no good reason?
You can deny the actions of Rather all you like. As a corporation, matters dealing with high profile professional personnel such as a Dan Rather are carefully considered before being acted upon. CBS was forced to let go several high profile people over this incident.
Is it your assertion that CBS management acted in a capricious manner and fired Rather and others without proof of wrongdoing?
Please. Next case. This one is already been finished.
 

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