Newtown school shooting, continuation of Colorado theatre shooting?

[katsung47]

Newtown school shooting, continuation of Colorado theatre shooting?

All the story came from the media and authority. So far no witness' field report. It is just like "Operation Geronimo". They let "seal" gave different stories which often conflicts each other. It looked like they try to kill all witness as possible as they can. Include Nancy Lanza who might prove something different from official story.

Have you noticed that Adam Lanza wore a mask?
Do you know that James Holmes wore gas mask in Colorado theatre shooting?

Nobody could recognize who actually did the shooting.

Iran’s state-run news network blames ‘Israeli death squads’ for Sandy Hook shooting

Posted by Max Fisher on December 18, 2012

According to the official story, Adam Lanza was found with his older brother’s ID, and it was not stolen. However, older brother Ryan – whom officials say is very cooperative – claims not to have even seen his brother since 2010. Where would Adam get this ID? And why does such use not qualify as a theft?

According to the official story, Adam Lanza was wearing a black outfit with a mask and bulletproof vest. Why would he want to hide his identity, and why would he wear a bulletproof vest if he planned to kill himself?
Iran’s state-run news network blames ‘Israeli death squads’ for Sandy Hook shooting

James Holmes, Aurora shooting suspect, was grad school dropout and loner, say neighbors

The suspected Colorado movie mass murderer was a loner and a grad school dropout who described himself last year as “quiet and easy-going” on a rental application.

By Nancy Dillon In San Diego AND Larry Mcshane / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

Holmes, who wore a gas mask and black full-body armor during his attack, was not a military veteran and had no ties to any terrorist groups, officials said.

James Holmes, Aurora shooting suspect, was grad school dropout and loner, say neighbors - NY Daily News

 

[P F Tinmore]

This looks like a setup to take our guns.

 

[katsung47]

Another coincidence is that 2 Mass Shootings from colorado and connecticut Connected To the Libor Scandal:

Colorado Massacre Linked To Historic Bank Fraud - Killer Does Not Appear To Be James Holmes

KILLER DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE JAMES HOLMES - JAMES HOLMES BEING USED IN BLACKMAIL OF ROBERT HOLMES FINANCIAL FRAUD DETECTION EXPERT FOR FICO IN LIBOR SCANDAL.
James Holmes father Robert Holmes, was said to have been scheduled to testify within the next few weeks before a US Senate panel on the massive banking crime called the LIBOR Scandal where UK banks fixed the London Interbank Borrowing Rate with the complicity of the Bank of England, the US Federal Reserve (which knew about this crime for 4 years and didn’t report it) and many other major Western banks.
Anonymous ? Colorado Massacre Linked To Historic Bank Fraud - Killer Does Not Appear To Be James Holmes

Mass Shootings Connected To Libor Scandal – THIS IS A HOAX STORY
Posted on December 17, 2012 by jischinger

The father of Connecticut school shooter Adam Lanza, Peter Lanza, was the tax director for General Electric, a corporation that paid -0- taxes on 14.2 billion dollars in profits last year. According to Fabian4Liberty, Peter Lanza was scheduled to testify in the ongoing global LIBOR scandal. In what could only be described an amazing coincidence, the father of Colorado Batman shooter James Holmes, Robert Holmes, was also a LIBOR witness in his position with FICO. According to the link at FICO, Robert Holmes was a ‘Fraud Scientist’

http://maxkeiser.com/2012/12/17/mass...libor-scandal/

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Libor scandal is a profitable business. US makes a lot of money (fine) from it. That's why two witness' sons were both involved in mass shootings. That's a blackmail.

Quote:
UBS hit by $1.5bn fine over Libor case
Published: 19 December, 2012,
Switzerland's largest bank UBS has agreed to pay $ 1.53 billion in fines to US, Swiss and British financial regulators in order to settle investigations into the Libor interest rate manipulation.

UBS hit by $1.5bn fine over Libor case ? RT

Quote:
Barclays was fined £290m after an investigation into claims that several banks manipulated the Libor rate at which they lend to each other. Chancellor George Osborne, meanwhile, raised the possibility of criminal charges against guilty bankers.

BBC News - Libor scandal: Who might have lost?

 

[whitehall]

Good plan, wear a mask and then kill yourself. Was the Sandy Hook killer really a vegan? I heard he was a registered democrat.

 

[UseCaution]

As long as the gun nuts are suffering. All's good for me. I feel safe with a few hand guns.
When the goverment comes,just shoot yourself in the head ding dongs. As a UAV works 24/7 you don't.

 

[Politico]

Where do you people come up with this crap?

 

[katsung47]

The purpose of two massacre is to wage a gun ban. But when they chose the plot sites and particpants, they framed two families which relate to the Libor scandal. Holmes family and Lanza family have no motive to leak the message that their sons involved in the case. No other but the Feds would release such information.

1. The two shootings aim at gun control, especially the Sandy Hook school shooting. Which you can see from the eagerness of Biden and Obama to push for a new gun ban. It may indicate that in coming future, there would be a created terror attack on American. They try to prevent the resistance from people because most people lost trust on this government after 911.

2. While to take over the gun rights from people, the Feds never forget to make money on these plots. So the information of two alleged shooters connect to Libor scandal were released. It was not necessarily targetted only on two families. It could be used on other witnesses too.

Power and money, are the target of the perpetrators in this two shootings.

 

[katsung47]

Boston Mayor Says Vice President ‘Guaranteed’ Him Obama Will Pass Major Gun Control Reform by End of January

Jan. 3, 2013
Vice President Joe Biden “guaranteed” that President Barack Obama will pass sweeping gun control legislation by the end of January, according to Boston Mayor Thomas M. Menino.

“He said, ‘Tommy, I guarantee you, we’ll get it done by the end of January,’” Menino reportedly said at City Hall on Thursday. “They’re going to get it done.”

Boston Mayor Says Vice President ?Guaranteed? Him Obama Will Pass Major Gun Control Reform by End of January | TheBlaze.com

 

[whitehall]

Anybody still think the nut cases were NRA Tea Party members? They were typical left ring freakazoids raised on hatred and violent video games. You can include the Tuscon shooter and the Va. Tech shooter in the pot.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Boston Mayor Says Vice President ‘Guaranteed’ Him Obama Will Pass Major Gun Control Reform by End of January

Jan. 3, 2013
Vice President Joe Biden “guaranteed” that President Barack Obama will pass sweeping gun control legislation by the end of January, according to Boston Mayor Thomas M. Menino.

“He said, ‘Tommy, I guarantee you, we’ll get it done by the end of January,’” Menino reportedly said at City Hall on Thursday. “They’re going to get it done.”

Boston Mayor Says Vice President ?Guaranteed? Him Obama Will Pass Major Gun Control Reform by End of January | TheBlaze.com

It's mid-February

 

[katsung47]

Boston Mayor Says Vice President ‘Guaranteed’ Him Obama Will Pass Major Gun Control Reform by End of January

Jan. 3, 2013
Vice President Joe Biden “guaranteed” that President Barack Obama will pass sweeping gun control legislation by the end of January, according to Boston Mayor Thomas M. Menino.

“He said, ‘Tommy, I guarantee you, we’ll get it done by the end of January,’” Menino reportedly said at City Hall on Thursday. “They’re going to get it done.”

Boston Mayor Says Vice President ?Guaranteed? Him Obama Will Pass Major Gun Control Reform by End of January | TheBlaze.com

It's mid-February

Yes, but the plan could be altered, especially when it was resisted by the public.

I just take part in a poll. More than 70% people are against gun control. More than a million people voted in poll.

Should the federal government regulate guns of any type?

Yes, it should378,633(28%) No, it should not963,588(71%)

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Should Congress ban semi-automatic weapons?

Yes, it should305,014(22%) No, it should not1,051,650(77%)


If Congress does not act, should President Obama use an executive order to ban or strictly control the sale of semi-automatic weapons?

Yes, he should278,118(20%) No, he should not1,076,925(79%)

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Do you agree that the Second Amendment gives citizens the right to own and bear guns without infringement?

Yes, I agree1,103,403(81%) No, I don't agree252,500(18%)

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SurveyResults

 

[PaulS1950]

The president can't pass anything unless congress passes it to him.
The federal ban is not going to happen.
If it did by some strange chance pass, it would quickly be challenged and deemed unlawful by the supreme court.

 

[katsung47]

No others could do Sandy Hook massacre except the Feds because so many resources were activated: police, media, government officials and informants (some were called as "actors" by people.) And they of course would let out disinformation to meddle the water.

Robbie Parker was pushed out as a trap to discredit “Sandy Hook truthers”. Mr. Parker was selected because he has three look alike daughters, all with blonde hair and you can hardly recognize them if the picture was taken in a few years.

Here is a doctored picture. Madeline and Samantha have no legs in the photo. It was cut and replaced by other stuff. That two legs on bottom part is from another photo. The size and location does not fit Robbie Parker’s body.

And they deliberately let Madeline wearing Emilie's dress in photo with Obama. Let her in Emilie’s hair style in picture one too. The dress and hair style were designed to confusing people (that Emilie wasn’t dead) then to prove the suspicious people are "conspiracy theorist". Remember, no others have the motive and resource to do that. Those who could take pictures of Obama and Samantha have the privilege or that photo was a product of the "strategy office"(disinformation office) too.

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That picture was created particularly to mislead people to conclude Emily hadn't died. (they let Madeline wear Emily's dress) That's a trap set up for suspicious people. It proves even the president could be obedient actor to be manipulated by the perpetrator. See how happy those actors are. Are they family members who just lost a lovely girl and after memory service, or it was a celebrating party?

 

[midcan5]

What is the debate question in this thread? For the conspiracy faithful, all actions have some hidden purpose that the conspiracy thinker finds unpleasant or meaningful in their world. For most other people conspiracy thought doesn't make much sense for rarely is the conspiratorial argument subject to any proof. Law abiding citizens can register and purchase guns, and these laws of ownership are government sanctioned and honored. I find the thought process of conspiracy fascinating given life in the real world in which two people can hardly keep anything quiet - even one person can talk too much. It is weird how some can project their fears onto the world in so many areas, and then find causes. A question I had OT is linked below.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/conspiracy-theories/95300-serious-conspiracy-theorist-question.html
http://www.usmessageboard.com/conspiracy-theories/95300-serious-conspiracy-theorist-question-4.html

"In Leviathan, written while he was in hiding from the horrors of the British civil war, Hobbes asks us to imagine ourselves in a “state of nature” before the establishment of civil government. Without the constraint of public laws individuals live lives of perfect and total freedom. No government exists to tax them or to regulate the use of their property. In this state of nature each person has one natural right, the right “for the preservation of his own nature, that is to say, of his own life, and consequently of doing anything which, in his own judgment and reason, he shall conceive to be the aptest means thereunto.” The right to self-protection may seem like an uncontroversial starting point for thinking about politics but, Hobbes shows, taken by itself it leads to disaster. Notice that Hobbes says that a right to self-protection includes the right to individually interpret, “in his own judgment and reason,” what self-protection demands. This is where the trouble starts and precisely where, a Hobbesian would wager, the NRA’s proposals for an armed society threaten to take us." The Contemporary Condition: The N.R.A. and the New State of Nature

 

[varelse]

Rachel Maddow said the newest claim is that 154 rounds were fired (based on the number of casings recovered) from the Bushmaster.

They claim these rounds came from the six magazines that were partially or completely emptied when recovered. There are 30 round magazines. They allegedly had 30, 30, 30, 0, 0, 0, 10, 11, and 13 rounds remaining.
That's

30-30=0
30-30=0
30-30=0
30-0=30
30-0=30
30-0=30
30-10=20
30-11=19
30-13=17

30+30+30+20+19+17= 146 + 1 in the chamber = 147 Rounds fired

Where is the magazine containing 23 unfired rounds?

 

[TheOldSchool]

Well if this was a conspiracy to take our guns its failing miserably. And the girls with no legs? You really think the billionaire elitist conspiracy would fuck up so badly that they couldn't Photoshop a picture? Plus I can plainly see Samantha's legs. Madeline's can probably easily be accounted for if someone were crazy enough to ask where they are.

 

[katsung47]

Well if this was a conspiracy to take our guns its failing miserably. And the girls with no legs? You really think the billionaire elitist conspiracy would fuck up so badly that they couldn't Photoshop a picture? Plus I can plainly see Samantha's legs. Madeline's can probably easily be accounted for if someone were crazy enough to ask where they are.

Government monopolized the news agency. They censored the important news of Sandy Hook shootings. Sandy Hook - Judge seals police records for 90 days. It helps to fume suspicion of people. Why did they release so much inconsistent information on Sandy Hook shooting?

Do you know why they released the following news (MANY 9-11 "HIJACKERS" ARE STILL ALIVE)? Because there are many people work for government as informants. They are afraid of becoming sacrifices when they were told to carry out a mission. So the late news (hijackers still alive) released to comfort them. Now we saw so many disinformation released later after Sandy Hook shooting. It hints "we didn't kill that many children". That's the trick how the government fool you the people.

MANY 9-11 "HIJACKERS" ARE STILL ALIVE.

The world's media has reported that many of the so-called hijackers "fingered" by the FBI are still alive. For example the BBC (British Broadcasting Cooperation) carried this report:

Hijack "suspects" alive and well.

The following article is a remake of http://www.mujahideen.fsnet.co.uk/wtc/wtc-hijackers.htm which lists many of the media articles dealing with the hijackers who were not hijackers.

Many 9-11 "Hijackers" are Still Alive.

 

[TheOldSchool]

Well if this was a conspiracy to take our guns its failing miserably. And the girls with no legs? You really think the billionaire elitist conspiracy would fuck up so badly that they couldn't Photoshop a picture? Plus I can plainly see Samantha's legs. Madeline's can probably easily be accounted for if someone were crazy enough to ask where they are.

Government monopolized the news agency. They censored the important news of Sandy Hook shootings. Sandy Hook - Judge seals police records for 90 days. It helps to fume suspicion of people. Why did they release so much inconsistent information on Sandy Hook shooting?

Do you know why they released the following news (MANY 9-11 "HIJACKERS" ARE STILL ALIVE)? Because there are many people work for government as informants. They are afraid of becoming sacrifices when they were told to carry out a mission. So the late news (hijackers still alive) released to comfort them. Now we saw so many disinformation released later after Sandy Hook shooting. It hints "we didn't kill that many children". That's the trick how the government fool you the people.

MANY 9-11 "HIJACKERS" ARE STILL ALIVE.

The world's media has reported that many of the so-called hijackers "fingered" by the FBI are still alive. For example the BBC (British Broadcasting Cooperation) carried this report:

Hijack "suspects" alive and well.

The following article is a remake of http://www.mujahideen.fsnet.co.uk/wtc/wtc-hijackers.htm which lists many of the media articles dealing with the hijackers who were not hijackers.

Many 9-11 "Hijackers" are Still Alive.

So what did the government gain from Newtown besides failing to pass gun control legislation and lowering their approval rating?

 

[depotoo]

shouldn't this be in conspiracy theories?

 

[asaratis]

The president can't pass anything unless congress passes it to him.
The federal ban is not going to happen.
If it did by some strange chance pass, it would quickly be challenged and deemed unlawful by the supreme court.

If Obama appoints three liberal stooges before he leaves the White House the SCOTUS may become a rubber stamp for liberal ideas...like reinterpretation of the Constitution.

shouldn't this be in conspiracy theories?

Yes.