Newt Winsd SC

[Toro]

Or it will cause ROMNEY to man up and stop being so damn polite. He needs to INSPIRE conservatives, so far he has failed in that department....

True dat.

He's coming across as a Republican Al Gore.

But it's a fine line being combative and Presidential as opposed to angry. Angry might work well in the primaries. It won't in the general.

I agree. But Mitt has got to remember that we are still in the primaries - if he wants to be in the general election he needs to show some sack, and show it NOW.

Yup.

FL is an all or nothing state too.

 

[EriktheRed]

If we learned anything from Newt it is this- Conservative Americans want someone to stand up and show some fight. They don't want a polite man to make esoteric policy points with a smile on his face- they want someone who will tell Obama (and the media) to fuck off.

Yeah, that's the ticket: let him step up and out-asshole Newt. That'll work just great for the general.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Was the economy good when Obama took over?

Is it better now?

Simple.

NO, it's really worse.

It was 7.8% unemployment when he took over, it's 8.5 now.

simply NOT TRUE Joeb

the unemployment rate for obama's first month in office was 9.3%, and it is now 8.5%.

And the 9.3% was INHERITED....there is NOTHING AT ALL any new president can do in their first couple of weeks in office to affect the unemployment trending already in place.... if you think there is and this is why you are parroting this UNTRUTH, then please explain it to me....please explain how the unemployment rate of our population can be affected by a new president in office for just a matter of days?

This kind of bull crud is below you.....imho....and just thoughtless rhetoric to anyone who uses their God given brains and common sense!!!

seriously!

care

Do you inherit something when you voluntarily accept it and when you were also part of the problem to begin with in the first place?
No one forced Senator obama to take the job.

 

[Zander]

If we learned anything from Newt it is this- Conservative Americans want someone to stand up and show some fight. They don't want a polite man to make esoteric policy points with a smile on his face- they want someone who will tell Obama (and the media) to fuck off.

Yeah, that's the ticket: let him step up and out-asshole Newt. That'll work just great for the general.

He doesn't need to be an asshole, just stand up for conservative principles and show some fucking passion. We don't need another John "polite" McCain.

 

[The T]

If we learned anything from Newt it is this- Conservative Americans want someone to stand up and show some fight. They don't want a polite man to make esoteric policy points with a smile on his face- they want someone who will tell Obama (and the media) to fuck off.

Yeah, that's the ticket: let him step up and out-asshole Newt. That'll work just great for the general.

He doesn't need to be an asshole, just stand up for conservative principles and show some fucking passion. We don't need another John "polite" McCain.

You mean milquetoast until I'm running for the Senate again reach across the aisle, for amnesty Juan McCain?

 

[SFC Ollie]

Yet, sometimes you need an asshole in charge.............

 

[The T]

Yet, sometimes you need an asshole in charge.............

One that respects the Constitution? You bet.

 

[Care4all]

NO, it's really worse.

It was 7.8% unemployment when he took over, it's 8.5 now.

simply NOT TRUE Joeb

the unemployment rate for obama's first month in office was 9.3%, and it is now 8.5%.

And the 9.3% was INHERITED....there is NOTHING AT ALL any new president can do in their first couple of weeks in office to affect the unemployment trending already in place.... if you think there is and this is why you are parroting this UNTRUTH, then please explain it to me....please explain how the unemployment rate of our population can be affected by a new president in office for just a matter of days?

This kind of bull crud is below you.....imho....and just thoughtless rhetoric to anyone who uses their God given brains and common sense!!!

seriously!

care

Do you inherit something when you voluntarily accept it and when you were also part of the problem to begin with in the first place?
No one forced Senator obama to take the job.

Well, if you live in the REAL world, you don't lie about figures and you don't go and blame the new ceo for the corporation's suck wind business until the New Ceo has been there a year or two.....Obama has been blamed by you and others for the unemployment rate for the first few months he was in office....when the trend shows that unemployment was on the rise....rising about 1 % a month for the 5 months before his first month in office.....the damage was done already, and the trend showed such... rounding off....the latter months of 2008 .....from 5% to 6% to 7% to 8% to 9% ( his first full month in office), to 10% a month or 2 later....then it started to go back down.....

 

[SFC Ollie]

simply NOT TRUE Joeb

the unemployment rate for obama's first month in office was 9.3%, and it is now 8.5%.

And the 9.3% was INHERITED....there is NOTHING AT ALL any new president can do in their first couple of weeks in office to affect the unemployment trending already in place.... if you think there is and this is why you are parroting this UNTRUTH, then please explain it to me....please explain how the unemployment rate of our population can be affected by a new president in office for just a matter of days?

This kind of bull crud is below you.....imho....and just thoughtless rhetoric to anyone who uses their God given brains and common sense!!!

seriously!

care

Do you inherit something when you voluntarily accept it and when you were also part of the problem to begin with in the first place?
No one forced Senator obama to take the job.

Well, if you live in the REAL world, you don't lie about figures and you don't go and blame the new ceo for the corporation's suck wind business until the New Ceo has been there a year or two.....Obama has been blamed by you and others for the unemployment rate for the first few months he was in office....when the trend shows that unemployment was on the rise....rising about 1 % a month for the 5 months before his first month in office.....the damage was done already, and the trend showed such... rounding off....the latter months of 2008 .....from 5% to 6% to 7% to 8% to 9% ( his first full month in office), to 10% a month or 2 later....then it started to go back down.....

True, but ever so slowly..........

 

[Care4all]

Do you inherit something when you voluntarily accept it and when you were also part of the problem to begin with in the first place?
No one forced Senator obama to take the job.

Well, if you live in the REAL world, you don't lie about figures and you don't go and blame the new ceo for the corporation's suck wind business until the New Ceo has been there a year or two.....Obama has been blamed by you and others for the unemployment rate for the first few months he was in office....when the trend shows that unemployment was on the rise....rising about 1 % a month for the 5 months before his first month in office.....the damage was done already, and the trend showed such... rounding off....the latter months of 2008 .....from 5% to 6% to 7% to 8% to 9% ( his first full month in office), to 10% a month or 2 later....then it started to go back down.....

True, but ever so slowly..........

agree! it has been slow....

 

[bigrebnc1775]

simply NOT TRUE Joeb

the unemployment rate for obama's first month in office was 9.3%, and it is now 8.5%.

And the 9.3% was INHERITED....there is NOTHING AT ALL any new president can do in their first couple of weeks in office to affect the unemployment trending already in place.... if you think there is and this is why you are parroting this UNTRUTH, then please explain it to me....please explain how the unemployment rate of our population can be affected by a new president in office for just a matter of days?

This kind of bull crud is below you.....imho....and just thoughtless rhetoric to anyone who uses their God given brains and common sense!!!

seriously!

care

Do you inherit something when you voluntarily accept it and when you were also part of the problem to begin with in the first place?
No one forced Senator obama to take the job.

Well, if you live in the REAL world, you don't lie about figures and you don't go and blame the new ceo for the corporation's suck wind business until the New Ceo has been there a year or two.....Obama has been blamed by you and others for the unemployment rate for the first few months he was in office....when the trend shows that unemployment was on the rise....rising about 1 % a month for the 5 months before his first month in office.....the damage was done already, and the trend showed such... rounding off....the latter months of 2008 .....from 5% to 6% to 7% to 8% to 9% ( his first full month in office), to 10% a month or 2 later....then it started to go back down.....

That did not answer the question
Did Senator obama inherit something that he also help to create? Did someone force the job on him?

 

[Care4all]

Do you inherit something when you voluntarily accept it and when you were also part of the problem to begin with in the first place?
No one forced Senator obama to take the job.

Well, if you live in the REAL world, you don't lie about figures and you don't go and blame the new ceo for the corporation's suck wind business until the New Ceo has been there a year or two.....Obama has been blamed by you and others for the unemployment rate for the first few months he was in office....when the trend shows that unemployment was on the rise....rising about 1 % a month for the 5 months before his first month in office.....the damage was done already, and the trend showed such... rounding off....the latter months of 2008 .....from 5% to 6% to 7% to 8% to 9% ( his first full month in office), to 10% a month or 2 later....then it started to go back down.....

That did not answer the question
Did Senator obama inherit something that he also help to create? Did someone force the job on him?

mr obama did not run his primary nor presidential run on the economy, nor did mccain run his primary or election on the economy....

we, most citizens, did not know how critical the crisis was until president bush came before us all, and told us that congress HAD TO PASS the Bailout for the banks or we would collapse and told us about the toxic assets, mortgaged backed securities yadayadayada....bush scared the pajesus out of us....we ran to the bank and took out a couple of thousand to put under the mattress for when all the banks collapsed he scared us so much

This was right before the election. the People had already chosen Obama over Mccain/Palin....

Did Senator Obama cause the crisis or was he part of the making of it? No, he didn't and wasn't.... and I don't see how you could even think that Big?

 

[JoeB131]

Was the economy good when Obama took over?

Is it better now?

Simple.

NO, it's really worse.

It was 7.8% unemployment when he took over, it's 8.5 now.

simply NOT TRUE Joeb

the unemployment rate for obama's first month in office was 9.3%, and it is now 8.5%.

And the 9.3% was INHERITED....there is NOTHING AT ALL any new president can do in their first couple of weeks in office to affect the unemployment trending already in place.... if you think there is and this is why you are parroting this UNTRUTH, then please explain it to me....please explain how the unemployment rate of our population can be affected by a new president in office for just a matter of days?

This kind of bull crud is below you.....imho....and just thoughtless rhetoric to anyone who uses their God given brains and common sense!!!

seriously!

care

I'm going by the government's own figures.


Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, in January 2009, when Obama took office, the unemployment rate was 7.8%. Now it was shooting up and shooting up fast, and to be absolutely fair to Obama, the thing was in a nose dive before he ever got to the stick. It was up to 9.4% by May while he was still trying to figure out how the WH phones worked.

Will Americans realize this, and realize that there has been some improvement? Maybe.

(Again, if it's a Obama vs. Romney contest, I'll vote for a sharp stick to the eye.)

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Well, if you live in the REAL world, you don't lie about figures and you don't go and blame the new ceo for the corporation's suck wind business until the New Ceo has been there a year or two.....Obama has been blamed by you and others for the unemployment rate for the first few months he was in office....when the trend shows that unemployment was on the rise....rising about 1 % a month for the 5 months before his first month in office.....the damage was done already, and the trend showed such... rounding off....the latter months of 2008 .....from 5% to 6% to 7% to 8% to 9% ( his first full month in office), to 10% a month or 2 later....then it started to go back down.....

That did not answer the question
Did Senator obama inherit something that he also help to create? Did someone force the job on him?

mr obama did not run his primary nor presidential run on the economy, nor did mccain run his primary or election on the economy....

we, most citizens, did not know how critical the crisis was until president bush came before us all, and told us that congress HAD TO PASS the Bailout for the banks or we would collapse and told us about the toxic assets, mortgaged backed securities yadayadayada....bush scared the pajesus out of us....we ran to the bank and took out a couple of thousand to put under the mattress for when all the banks collapsed he scared us so much

This was right before the election. the People had already chosen Obama over Mccain/Palin....

Did Senator Obama cause the crisis or was he part of the making of it? No, he didn't and wasn't.... and I don't see how you could even think that Big?

Did Senator Obama cause the crisis or was he part of the making of it? No, he didn't and wasn't.... and I don't see how you could even think that Big?

That is not what I said

That did not answer the question
Did Senator obama inherit something that he also help to create? Did someone force the job on him?

To help create would mean he had help and did not do it alone.
Was Senator obama aware of the condition of the job before he took it? As a Senator he should have been.
No I am sure he was aware of the condition of the job so he took it. It was much easier to push his agenda with a weak economy than it would have been in a strong economy.