NewsMax: Military Coup "to resolve the Obama problem"

[Vast LWC]

1). He failed to produce his Original Birth Certificate.

Bullshit, he provided adequate legal verification of his place of birth, with witnesses and supporting press documentation, to satisfy the law. No unconstitutionality there.

2). He confiscated Private Property without Due Process.

His confiscation of said property was covered under eminent domain. If the investors in the corporation would like to press civil suit against the US government, they have every right to. Of course, since the Supreme Court has already ruled on Eminent Domain several times in the history of our nation, I doubt they'll get anywhere. They can try though. Still nothing unconstitutional here.

Oh, and also, I haven't seen any of the major shareholders of said corporations complaining, have you?

3). He uses His Position to intimidate All who question his Agenda.

So he's imprisoned people who politically disagree with him? I'd LOVE to see examples of that. Or perhaps he's threatened to imprison someone simply because they disagreed with him?

4). He fails at protecting the Constitution and the People from All Enemies, Foreign and Domestic.

Someone has invaded the United States??? Wow, I must have pulled a Rip Van Winkle and slept for a couple of decades...

5). He fill High Level Government Positions with People that are degenerate and unqualified, whom otherwise could not legally pass a background check to even be able to deliver the Fucking Mail Jackass.

Fuck You.

ROFL. Not one single example of unconstitutionality.

And still more childish name-calling and expletives.

 

[Annie]

Clearly dipshit? You have NEVER heard of the Declaration of Independence? "Life Liberty Persuit Of Happiness"?

The Constitution is the Instrument that PROTECTS it. whether is specifaically states it or NOT. Nice try. But your HATRED of Corporations is noted. Many INDIVIDUALS support these corporations by their individual INVESTMENTS that falls under "The persuit Of Happiness".

Have a 401K? Invest as an individual? Government MEANS to take it AWAY.

Sorry you LOSE. And millions will back me.

1) What does the "Declaration of Independence" have to do with whether something is constitutional or not?

2) The constitution is the "Instrument that protects" the Declaration of Independence? Where do you even get this crap?

3) The Corporations in question were about to fail. That failure would have affected many, many people far beyond the small circle of investors that owned the corporation. Thus doing so protected the public from harm, which is covered in the Constitution specifically in Article 1, section 8 of the Consitution as follows: "Provide for the Common Defense and the General Welfare of the United States". There are many precedents in various cases of eminent domain throughout the history of our country, where private property was usurped in favor of the "general welfare".

and finally

4) Your use of the word "dipshit" due to your seeming ignorance on the subject matter is telling.

You don't know the friggin' foundation of your own government do you?

I'm done with you. It's CLEAR that you aren't a student of History, nor are you willing to discuss it logically. You *FAIL* in your OWN history. You may now get out of my face dumbass.

I agree that the semblance of understanding of what has gone before seems lost on this poster. If there never was a Code of Hammarbi? If never a Magna Carta? If never a Virginia House of Burgesses? If never a Mayflower Compact?

 

[Vast LWC]

EXACTLY my point. And I had this in mind when I posted the 'Oathes Of Office' Of not only the Military, but the BRANCHES of Government and what they are SWORN to uphold and defend.

For it is pertinent. LWC is an IDIOT, and thinks that end-runs around the Constitution are preferable to sound government, despite what those DEAD people wrote, and is LAW of the land.

He FAILS at History, and FAILS to understand that Government was NOT to be a hinderence to COMMERCE. Perhaps he'd like to look at the Commerce Clause since he HATES thos evil corporations that give his own nation Clout, and stature on the international stage, and his readiness to Defeat it.

It's akin to loping off one's head to despite his neck.

Bottom line? LWC has NO understanding of the Basic tenants of the Constitution, and the LIMITS placed upon over-reaching Government he so applauds. [Never mind the Government is NOT his friend, NOR is Obama].

You can keep on going on about how I "fail" until your head falls off, you have yet to produce one specific example of Mr Obama behaving in an unconstitutional manner.

And the "Commerce Clause" again? Was this a Right-Wing talking point at some point recently?

The "Commerce Clause" states, specifically:

[The Congress shall have power] To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes

What the hell does this have to do with ANYTHING we've been discussing?

But of course to you, calling someone an "idiot", and NOT proving your point, is apparently a winning tactic in a debate...

 

[Vast LWC]

I agree that the semblance of understanding of what has gone before seems lost on this poster. If there never was a Code of Hammarbi? If never a Magna Carta? If never a Virginia House of Burgesses? If never a Mayflower Compact?

And which of those documents defines what is "unconstitutional" in the United States of America? Hmmm?

 

[Vast LWC]

This is priceless.

A right-winger states that actions by the President were specifically unconstitutional, and when I ask what part of the Constitution Mr Obama specifically disobeyed, I get a long string of rhetorical talking points that have nothing to do with constitutionality.

I'll ask again, name a specific case where Mr Obama has exhibited unconstitutional behavior?

 

[Vast LWC]

I agree that the semblance of understanding of what has gone before seems lost on this poster. If there never was a Code of Hammarbi? If never a Magna Carta? If never a Virginia House of Burgesses? If never a Mayflower Compact?

For example, tell me how this example of one of the laws from the "Code of Hammurabi" applies to the Constitutionality of the actions of our current President:

"If anyone brings an accusation against a man, and the accused goes to the river and leaps into the river, if he sinks in the river his accuser shall take possession of his house. But if the river proves that the accused is not guilty, and he escapes unhurt, then he who had brought the accusation shall be put to death, while he who leaped into the river shall take possession of the house that had belonged to his accuser. "

 

[Vast LWC]

Now that we've established that Mr Obama has not in fact broken the trust of "Protecting the Constitution" that is the basis of his office...

NewsMax's thinly veiled yellow journalism in this matter can be called "Treason". Perhaps not legally, due to the authors careful hedging, but the article certainly adheres to the spirit of utterly treasonous behavior.

 

[xotoxi]

Will the day come when patriotic general and flag officers sit down with the president, or with those who control him, and work out the national equivalent of a "family intervention," with some form of limited, shared responsibility?

Instead, why don't those patriotic generals sit down together and decide which one of them will run for President in 2012.

Then, they should run, and if elected, they will have succeeded in removing Obama from power.

Plus, they won't expose themselves to the possibility of execution for treason.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Hahahahahahaha! Military coup? Hey, cons, your coup d'etat does not rhyme with soup. You can't even pronounce right. Thanks for the laughs. This last million was really, really difficult to land, and reading the absolute silliness of your posts tonight takes the edge off the day. Thanks.

 

[Vast LWC]

I'm still looking for anyone who can conclusively prove that President Obama has done anything that is specifically "Unconstitutional".

 

[Ravi]

America isn't the Third World. If a military coup does occur here it will be civilized.

That may qualify as the most retarded thing I've ever seen in print.

WorldNutDaily

 

[RetiredGySgt]

When are you guys just going to accept the fact that you got your ass kicked in the last election and don't get to call the shots anymore?

"We the people" have spoken and we no longer want people like you involved in our government

Ohh and exactly when did YOU guys quit crying from 2000 to 2006?

As for your contention, you will find out in 2010 that the backlash against the Republicans was just that, it was not a mandate for the Democrats to fuck the country even more.

 

[Bfgrn]

First Big Business, Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, Lou Dobbs, the Religious Right, the Wall Street Journal, Mitch McConnell, and Karl Rove came for ACORN, and the Democrats did not speak out -- because they were not ACORN.

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Then they came for the Center for American Progress, and the Democrats did not speak out -- because they were not the Center for American Program.

Then they came for the Sierra Club, and the Democrats did not speak out -- because they were not the Sierra Club.

Then they came for the National Organization for Women, and the Democrats did not speak out -- because they were not the National Organization for Women.

Then they came for the other community organizers, and the Democrats did not speak out -- because they were not community organizers

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Then they came for the National Council of La Raza, and the Democrats did not speak out -- because they were not the National Council of La Raza.

Then they came for the NAACP, and the Democrats did not speak out -- because they were not the NAACP.

Then they came for the ACLU, and the Democrats did not speak out -- because they were not the ACLU.

Then they came for the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, and the Democrats did not speak out -- because they were not the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force.

Then they came for the National Council of Churches, and the Democrats did not speak out -- because they were not the National Council of Churches.

Then they came for the Religious Action Center of Reform Judaism, and the Democrats did not speak out -- because they were not the Religious Action Center of Reform Judaism.

Then they came for the AARP, and the Democrats did not speak out -- because they were not the AARP.

Then they came for the Teamsters, and the Democrats did not speak out -- because they were not Teamsters.

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Then they came for UNITE HERE, and the Democrats did not speak out -- because they were not UNITE HERE.

Then they came for the Immigrant Solidarity Network, and, the Democrats did not speak out -- because they were not the Immigrant Solidarity Network.

Then they came for the National Education Association, and the Democrats did not speak out -- because they were not the National Education Association.

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Then they came for the American Association of University Professors, and the Democrats did not speak out -- because they were not the American Association of University Professors

Then Big Business, Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, Lou Dobbs, the Religious Right, the Wall Street Journal, Mitch McConnell, and Karl Rove came for the Democrats -- and there was no one left to speak out for the Democrats.
Peter Dreier

 

[EriktheRed]

"the Obama problem"...


Isn't it ironic that with all the wingnuts comparing the President to another certain world leader from the past [cough...Hitler...cough] that this is the phrase the author would use?

 

[Ravi]

I wonder if this guy voted in the facebook poll about Obama being assassinated?

 

[Wry Catcher]

"Imagine a bloodless coup to restore and defend the Constitution through an interim administration that would do the serious business of governing and defending the nation. Skilled, military-trained, nation-builders would replace accountability-challenged, radical-left commissars. Having bonded with his twin teleprompters, the president would be detailed for ceremonial speech-making."

The OP suggests a "bloodless coup" suggesting s/he has never raised their hand and sworn to support and defend the Constitution of the United States of America. There is no greater foe, no greater threat, no evil greater than those who advocate political change in our democratic republic - a republic which real patriots for over two hundreds years have given their life to defend - by any means other than the ballot box.

 

[Si modo]

"Imagine a bloodless coup to restore and defend the Constitution through an interim administration that would do the serious business of governing and defending the nation. Skilled, military-trained, nation-builders would replace accountability-challenged, radical-left commissars. Having bonded with his twin teleprompters, the president would be detailed for ceremonial speech-making."

The OP suggests a "bloodless coup" suggesting s/he has never raised their hand and sworn to support and defend the Constitution of the United States of America. There is no greater foe, no greater threat, no evil greater than those who advocate political change in our democratic republic - a republic which real patriots for over two hundreds years have given their life to defend - by any means other than the ballot box.

The USA is a constitutional republic.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

"Imagine a bloodless coup to restore and defend the Constitution through an interim administration that would do the serious business of governing and defending the nation. Skilled, military-trained, nation-builders would replace accountability-challenged, radical-left commissars. Having bonded with his twin teleprompters, the president would be detailed for ceremonial speech-making."

The OP suggests a "bloodless coup" suggesting s/he has never raised their hand and sworn to support and defend the Constitution of the United States of America. There is no greater foe, no greater threat, no evil greater than those who advocate political change in our democratic republic - a republic which real patriots for over two hundreds years have given their life to defend - by any means other than the ballot box.

There is no chance a coup is going to happen anytime soon. BUT to claim a coup would NEVER be justified is stupid. It is just as justified as a civil war or rebellion if the Constitution which those people swore to defend were being torn up by the very Government.

 

[Old Rocks]

When are you guys just going to accept the fact that you got your ass kicked in the last election and don't get to call the shots anymore?

"We the people" have spoken and we no longer want people like you involved in our government

spoken like a true totalitarian

ever heard of the bill of rights?

you are an enemy of the people

Hey dingbat, when you are voted out of office, you no longer have any right to that office. You regard that as totalinarian? The bill of rights says you have rights as a citizen, the citizens removed your rights to the powers of the office you once had. You are now a citizen like the rest of us.

An enemy of the people is someone that would impose the will of a small vocal and vicious minority on the majority. And right now, that looks like people like yourself.

 

[Bfgrn]

Republicans tried it with FDR.
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Newsmax columnist: Military coup "to resolve the 'Obama problem' " is not "unrealistic" | Media Matters for America

From John L. Perry's September 29 Newsmax column:

There is a remote, although gaining, possibility America's military will intervene as a last resort to resolve the "Obama problem." Don't dismiss it as unrealistic.

America isn't the Third World. If a military coup does occur here it will be civilized. That it has never happened doesn't mean it wont. Describing what may be afoot is not to advocate it.


Don't be so sure it never happened...

On Friday, Nov. 22, 1963, Robert F. Kennedy—J.F.K.'s younger brother, Attorney General and devoted watchman—was eating lunch at Hickory Hill, his Virginia home, when he got the news from Dallas. It was his archenemy, FBI chief J. Edgar Hoover, of all people, who phoned to tell him. "The President's been shot," Hoover curtly said. Bobby later recalled, "I think he told me with pleasure."

For the rest of the day and night, Bobby Kennedy would wrestle with his howling grief while using whatever power was still left him to figure out what really happened in Dallas—before the new Administration settled firmly into place under the command of another political enemy, Lyndon Johnson. While the Attorney General's aides summoned federal Marshals to surround R.F.K.'s estate (they no longer trusted the Secret Service or the FBI)—uncertain of whether the President's brother would be the next target—Bobby feverishly gathered information. He worked the phones at Hickory Hill, talking to people who had been in the presidential motorcade; he conferred with a succession of government officials and aides while waiting for Air Force One to return with the body of his brother; he accompanied his brother's remains to the autopsy at Bethesda Naval Hospital, where he took steps to take control of medical evidence, including the President's brain; and he stayed coiled and awake in the White House until early the next morning. Lit up with the clarity of shock, the electricity of adrenaline, he constructed the outlines of the crime. Bobby Kennedy would become America's first J.F.K. assassination-conspiracy theorist.

The President's brother quickly concluded that Lee Harvey Oswald, the accused assassin, had not acted alone. And Bobby immediately suspected the CIA's secret war on Fidel Castro as the source of the plot. At his home that Friday afternoon, Bobby confronted CIA Director John McCone, asking him point-blank whether the agency had killed J.F.K. (McCone denied it.) Later, R.F.K. ordered aides to explore a possible Mafia connection to the crime. And in a revealing phone conversation with Harry Ruiz-Williams, a trusted friend in the anti-Castro movement, Kennedy said bluntly, "One of your guys did it." Though the CIA and the FBI were already working strenuously to portray Oswald as a communist agent, Bobby Kennedy rejected this view. Instead, he concluded Oswald was a member of the shadowy operation that was seeking to overthrow Castro.

The Kennedy Assassination: Was There a Conspiracy? - The Lessons of J.F.K. - TIME