Newscasters Going Medieval On Out Of Touch Politicians

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    The political firestorm hasn't even started, but I can already tell you, I savor the hearings on this debacle. I will agree with others that the state government dropped the ball, especially the LO governor and NO mayor. Regardless, the federal government (with far superior capabilities and personnel) dropped it even farther. As Pres. Bush (who will be unfairly blamed for a lot of this) stated, the early relief effort has been completely unacceptable.

    Notice the bipartisan anger seething from conservatives like Joe Scarborough and Sheppard Smith to liberals like Andrea Mitchell and Soledad O'Brien. They're on the ground, not us, not the politicians (except for their brief visits), watching the survivors, looking at the corpses, witnessing the suffering. Then these politicians come on there trying to bullshit them, and God bless these folks, they ain't having it.

    I usually reserve my contempt for the mass media, but they have shined through on this disaster.

     
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    i watched shep smith and geraldo reporting...what the hell is going on down their that the people they are with, arent being allowed to leave ??? what the fkuc???
     
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    This whole relief effort is making me sick to my stomach.

    :puke: :puke: :puke:
     
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    At some point yesterday, I too thought it's way too long. People have been flooding the charities with money, why isn't it turning into food and potable water where it's needed? :wtf:
     
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    As far as a delayed federal response, that can also be blamed on the state government, as the state must invite federal aid before the feds can do anything about it, and the ostrich-like state government didn't pull their heads out of the sand in time to call the feds in a timely manner.
     
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    How did Bush drop it further, Nato? Because it's fashionable to say? You think Shep Smith is a conservative?
     
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    MOST of the blaim can be layed firmly at the feet of the local gov. They didn't have an evacuation plan in place for getting the people out before the hurricane or after. That's where things began to go wrong. They didn't spend money on the up keep of the levees and now they are paying the price.

    The media needs to stop blaiming the federal gov. and start with the MAYOR first for his lack of doing anything and then proceed to the governor.

    They should have gone house to house evacuating residents before the hurricane hit, use those school buses for something usefull instead of letting them sit and fill with water.

    All in all they have moved somwhere around 40,000 people in the last 3 days out of the city. That's impressive, but instead of giving every reporter in the world access they should have started moving people the 1st day. This kind of a pathetic response could have been prevented if the mayor and governor had called troops up BEFORE the storm instead of waiting 2 days.
     
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    Notice I said Pres. Bush will be UNFAIRLY blamed for a lot of this. It was his subordinates at FEMA and Homeland Security who dropped the ball, as well as the miliary chain of command. They failed to prepare, irregardless of the devastating failure of the state and local governments, and the federal government's failure to prepare has been well-evident since this whole disaster started.

    I think Shep Smith is a Republican/conservative, like most of the folks at Fox News... which is why I prefer Fox News to MSNBC or CNN. At the least, the folks at Fox News are the only ones who ever give Bush and the military a fair shake, and for that I am a grateful viewer.

    We have personnel from this ship on the ground there (they were on leave in the area), and their popular view has been that the feds dropped the ball even worse than the state and local authorities did. Three of them are medical corpsmen who offered their assistance to FEMA reps in Biloxi and Baton Rouge and they were turned down, mainly because FEMA has no idea what to do with the resources it has available.

    Why do you think mayors from LA to NY to Chicago to Miami have been bitching because they've offered FEMA everything emergency response related they have (paramedics, firefighters, police, specialists, helicopters, ambulances, etc etc) and FEMA has hardly responded or even considered their requests. That enough would make me (as a mayor of say Chicago or NYC) to give the President a call and tell him he needs to fire the idiots at FEMA and Homeland Security and bring in somebody like Tommy Franks or Rudy Guilani and save the day on this thing by getting the effort organized and effective.

    The federal government has failed its people the last six days, because regardless of the state and local governments, this is still the United States of America, with a federal government that is a powerful behemoth, and it should have, a long time ago, started showing it knew what the hell it was doing and taken the proper actions.

    One last question for all those geniuses out there who want to absolve the fed. government of its horrific failure... what if this was a nuclear attack and the majority of the local and state governments were wiped out? Would you wrongly claim the feds couldn't do anything and had no responsibilities then?

    This is a fucking fiasco, from FEMA/Homeland Security on down,and it makes America look like shit to the rest of the world and also worries the hell out of any of us who wonder how the hell they could blow so badly something they had days to plan for! Next time we may not be so lucky to have days to plan.
     
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    Nato- I disagree that the fed dropped it even further, as you stated. The local and state authorities are the first line of defense and they failed woefully.. I know it's fashionable though, to blame the fed. bush = the fed.
     
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    Well I don't like that Bush will get blamed for this, but its going to happen. And the bipartisan rage is going to be overwhelming. If you thought the 9/11 hearings were bad, just wait till the Katrina hearings.

    Needless to say, Bush is now fully involved, things will get better. He always manages to get things done, just like the military.
     

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