News Alert: 130 Libyan soldiers executed for mutiny

[Grace]

Without his warriors fearlessly behind him, Sulieman may not have been so Magnificent. Hell, he wouldn't have even gotten the throne, so to speak, without them.
The soldiers need to confer and do what they believe is right for their own people. Just my opinion.
YMMV

 

[Intense]

Know any good Marksmen???

 

[Sunni Man]

I sympathize with you Sunni. What is the position of the Arab World on Relief and Aid? What exactly is the UN position? Wherever we Intervene, we end up having the tables turned on us, and hated for trying to help. What do you suggest?

I view it as a civil war.

And don't believe we should get involved in any way.

The Lybian people need to be the ones to decide their future.

If they want it bad enough.

They will overthrow Gadafi and take control of the government.

 

[Intense]

I sympathize with you Sunni. What is the position of the Arab World on Relief and Aid? What exactly is the UN position? Wherever we Intervene, we end up having the tables turned on us, and hated for trying to help. What do you suggest?

I view it as a civil war.

And don't believe we should get involved in any way.

The Lybian people need to be the ones to decide their future.

If they want it bad enough.

They will overthrow Gadafi and take control of the government.

All well and good, wait and see I guess. Still, Emergency Aid, Food, etc... Where is the Red Crescent on stuff like this??? Are they preparing???

 

[Intense]

I sympathize with you Sunni. What is the position of the Arab World on Relief and Aid? What exactly is the UN position? Wherever we Intervene, we end up having the tables turned on us, and hated for trying to help. What do you suggest?

I view it as a civil war.

And don't believe we should get involved in any way.

The Lybian people need to be the ones to decide their future.

If they want it bad enough.

They will overthrow Gadafi and take control of the government.

He's gone... but at what cost??? Where are the other Arab Nation's on this???

 

[Toro]

Yeah. The "strong statements" aren't cutting it any more. But what should be done?? That is the question.

It would be extremely difficult for the US to do anything, unilaterally. But if the military continues to fire on unarmed civilians..this is a war crime. And it's enough of a reason to intercede.

I think it would be a bad mistake for the US to intervene. It might help Gaddafi more than anything as it would be seen as foreign infidels invading the country.

This uprising began in the east, where Islamic fundamentalism is strongest. If the US did successfully intervene, the outcome might be that power would fall to the people that hate us the most.

 

[KissMy]

Gadhafi hold whittled away as Libya revolt spreads

International momentum was building for action to punish Gadhafi's regime for the bloody crackdown...A proposal gaining some traction was for the United Nations to declare a no-fly zone over Libya to prevent it using warplanes to hit protesters. U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights Navi Pillay said that if reports of such strikes are confirmed, "there's an immediate need for that level of protection"...

The scope of Moammar Gadhafi's control was whittled away Wednesday as major Libyan cities and towns closer to the capital fell to the rebellion against his rule. In the east, now all but broken away, the opposition vowed to "liberate" Tripoli, where the Libyan leader is holed up with a force of militiamen roaming the streets and tanks guarding the outskirts.

In a further sign of Gadhafi's faltering hold, two air force pilots — one from the leader's own tribe — parachuted out of their warplane and let it crash into the eastern Libyan desert rather than follow orders to bomb an opposition-held city.

 

[Toro]

It sounds like the end for Gaddafi.

 

[Sunni Man]

BAIDA, Libya — As rebellion crept closer to the capital and defections of military officers multiplied, Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi called on thousands of mercenaries and irregular security forces on Wednesday to defend his bastion in Tripoli, in what residents said was a desperate and dangerous turn in the week-old uprising.

Distrustful of even his own generals, Colonel Qaddafi has for years quietly built up this ruthless and loyal force. It is made up of special brigades headed by his sons, segments of the military loyal to his native tribe and its allies, and legions of African mercenaries he has helped train and equip. Many are believed to have fought elsewhere, in places like Sudan, but he has now called them back.

Witnesses said thousands of members of this irregular army were massing on roads to the capital, Tripoli, where one resident described scenes evocative of anarchic Somalia: clusters of heavily armed men in mismatched uniforms clutching machine guns and willing to carry out orders to kill Libyans that other police and military units, and even fighter pilots, have refused.

Some residents of Tripoli said they took the gathering army as a sign that the uprising might be entering a decisive stage, with Colonel Qaddafi fortifying his main stronghold in the capital and protesters there gearing up for their first organized demonstration after days of spontaneous rioting and bloody crackdowns.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/24/world/africa/24libya.html?_r=1&h

 

[Defiant1]

The UN should grow some balls & send troops to the boarder to send a message.

No. The Libyan army needs to grow some and take control. Without them, he is nothing except a man in a mansion.

and he has some snappy outfits.

 

[Sunni Man]

BENGHAZI, Libya — Forces loyal to Muammar Gadhafi launched a counter-attack on Thursday as rebels threatened the Libyan leader's grip on power by seizing important towns close to the capital.

The opposition already control major centers in the east, including the regional capital Benghazi, and reports that the towns of Misrata and Zuara in the west have also fallen, brought the tide of rebellion ever closer to the capital.

"The (pro-Gadhafi) brigade has managed to control the site but we are still trying to push it back. The clashes are still taking place at the moment," a witness told Reuters.

In the city of Zawiya, 30 miles west of Tripoli, an army unit attacked a mosque where protesters had been camping inside and in a lot outside for several days, calling for Gadhafi's ouster, a witness said. The soldiers opened fire with automatic weapons and hit the mosque's minaret with anti-aircraft missiles, he said. Some of the young men among the protesters had hunting rifles.

He said there were casualties, but couldn't provide exact figures. He said a day earlier an envoy from Gadhafi had come to the city and warned protesters, "Either leave or you will see a massacre." Zawiya is a key city near an oil port and refineries.

"What is happening is horrible, those who attacked us are not the mercenaries; they are sons of our country," he said, sobbing. After the assault, thousands massed in the city's main Martyrs Square, shouting "leave, leave," in reference to Gadhafi, he said.

Al Jazeera television broadcast pictures on Thursday of what it said was a burning police station there. But a witness told Reuters the Libyan army was maintaining a heavy presence there.

The brief, grainy pictures of Az-Zawiyah were followed by footage of around 20 bodies, most with their hands tied behind their backs. The satellite station said the men had been shot for refusing to shoot protesters.

Gadhafi loyalists counterattack as rebels near capital - World news - Mideast/N. Africa - msnbc.com

 

[High_Gravity]

Ghaddafi is using hired guns from Africa to surpress his own people, this is going to get worse before it gets better.