New Zealand's Wacky PM bans sale of semi-automatic rifles, institutes mandatory buyback program

"New Zealand Gun Ban Days After Attack Shows What Could Happen Here Without 2nd Amendment"

A responsive government that offers more than just “thoughts and prayers” to the dead? I’m in.

Of course you are. Sheep are natural followers.
 
"New Zealand's police minister Stuart Nash said of the development: "I want to remind that it is a privilege and not a right to own a firearm in New Zealand."

Good thing it is a Constitutional right here.
 
That PM isnt much of a leader. Knee jerking is a sign of weakness and cowardice.
Worked in Australia

Correlation does not equal causation.

This idea that stuff that works in other countries can’t possibly work in the USA is bullshit.

You have 35,000 people dying every year by gun violence. Another 100,000 a year are wounded. And it’s not just gangbangers and brown people. The vast majority of victims are white people. The vast majority of gun suicides are white people in the mid-west. The highest rates of violent crime are now I the fly-over states.

What we have isn’t working….that should be clear to everyone.
 
New Zealand is now a nation of Sheep.


Q&A - New Zealand's gun law changes explained
The press conference is still going on, but Ardern's press team have sent over this Q&A.

1. What semi-automatic firearms will be affected by the ban?

The ban will apply to all firearms are now defined as Military Style Semi-Automatics (MSSAs) and will also include assault rifles.

2. What semi-automatic firearms will NOT be affected by the ban?

There is a balance to be struck between public safety and legitimate use. The changes exclude two general classes of firearms which are commonly used for hunting, pest control, stock management on farms, and duck shooting:

Semi-automatic .22 calibre rimfire firearms with a magazine which holds no more than ten rounds

Semi-automatic and pump action shotguns with a non-detachable tubular magazine which holds no more than five rounds

3. What semi-automatic firearms are affected by today's Order in Council?

Two types of firearms are now defined as Military Style Semi-Automatics (MSSAs):

A semi-automatic firearm capable of being used with a detachable magazine which holds more than five cartridges

A semi-automatic shotgun capable of being used with a detachable magazine which holds more than five cartridges

4. I have an A-Category firearms licence and now own MSSAs. What should I do?

It would normally be an offence for an A-Category licence holder to possess an MSSA, punishable by up to three years in prison or a $4000 fine. However a transitional period gives time for people to comply with the law, if they take certain steps. The transitional period will be confirmed next month. Firearms owners who unlawfully possess an MSSA now have three options:

Voluntarily surrender the firearm to Police for safe disposal.

Complete an online form on the Police website to arrange for the MSSA to be collected, while details are finalised for compensation under a buy back scheme

Sell or gift the firearm to a person who has an E-Category licence and a 'permit to procure' the weapon

5. Are Police geared up to receive large numbers of MSSAs?

Yes. They will work with the New Zealand Defence Force to enable safe storage, transport and destruction of MSSAs. Police are establishing an online form which will make it easier for firearms owners to arrange for Police to collect the MSSAs. The online form will go live over the weekend. It will not be practicable for firearms owners to physically return their weapons to Police stations without prior approval. Where extra administrative staff are required they will be hired on fixed-term contracts.

6. Will this lead to stockpiling of semi-automatics?

No. The changes under the Order in Council take effect immediately. Anyone who now unlawfully has an MSSA, which yesterday was a lawful firearm, needs to take steps to comply with the law.

7. Will some firearms dealers be breaking the law if they have these MSSAs in stock?

Some firearms dealers only hold A-category licences. In order to comply with the law, they could sell their stock of semi-automatics to a Category E licence holder or return them to their supplier.

8. What are the statistics for firearms licences and firearms in circulation?

There are 245,000 firearms licences

Of these, 7,500 are E-Category licences; and 485 are dealer licences

There are 13,500 firearms which require the owner to have an E-Cat licence, this is effectively the known number of MSSAs before today's changes

The total number of firearms in New Zealand is estimated to be 1.2-1.5 million

9. What further issues are being considered?

Cabinet will consider further steps on 25 March. These will include measures to:

Tighten firearms licensing and penalties

Impose greater controls over a range of ammunition

Address a number of other issues relevant to special interest groups such as international sports shooters and professional pest controllers, such as DoC.

Future proof the Arms Act to ensure it is able to respond to developments in technology and society

10. How will the buyback work, and who will administer it?

Police, the Treasury and other agencies are working through the detail. More information will be available when the legislation is introduced next month. The compensation will be fair and reasonable based on firearm type, average prices and the age of firearms.

11. What is the cost of the buyback likely to be?

That is very difficult to judge, given the limited information about the total number of firearms affected by this change. Preliminary advice suggests it could be in the range of $100m-$200m. The buyback will ensure these weapons are taken out of circulation and that we fulfil our obligations under the law.
 
Only the cops and the thugs can have them in NZ now.

Sad.
The libs think that this is a victory.....dead Muslims....and a gun ban.

This won't turn out well.
It has turned out very well in Australia.

And yet an Australian with an RV full of guns just shot up a mosque.
In New Zealand. Did you know that is a DIFFERENT COUNTRY?
 
I think it's time to remind our own lawmakers that we don't need their permission to be armed, the newer ones especially.
 
Looks like that cop has an AR.
As they should

If we don't need them, the police don't need them.

The police are not some new class of Knights, we do not give up our RKBA to them, what we grant them is only the power to arrest without fear of prosecution as long as they follow procedures.

They have flash-bang grenades and tear gas...

Those aren't arms.

The police should be no better armed than the populace.
 
This is the face of government oppression


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Looks like that cop has an AR.
Only the cops and the thugs can have them in NZ now.

Sad.
The libs think that this is a victory.....dead Muslims....and a gun ban.

Conservatives think mass killing weapons keep them safe. It’s not working. You have the highest rates of murder, gun crime, and mass shootings in the free world.
Try and kill a conservative who has one. Report back to us if you can.
 
This isn't necessarily a knee-jerk reaction.

In 1996, Australia had it's anti gun legislation written up years ahead of Port Arthur shooting that allowed the parliament to ram it through with no opposition.

New Zealand would have had this legislation prepared well ahead of time in order to trot it out in response to an appropriate tragedy.

This legislation did not come about in a vacuum. They are using all the same buzz words used by anti gun groups globally. High capacity, military-style, assault rifles.

Interesting side note, this isn't legislation in the common meaning of the term.

NZ Parliament didn't vote on this, it is an edict from their Cabinet.

But all parties have come out in support of it.

A second tranche of measures is being introduced next week.

including issues such as licensing, registration, and storage.

The country will be a lot safer for this.

It'll have no effect on future crime. When was the last time something like this happened in NZ? It will simply make it much harder now for lawful people to buy, access and use their firearms for protection and simple sport and is simply one step in trying to totally disarm a populace. The main purpose to all of this is to use a crisis in order to make appear to the public that politicians are actually doing anything. New Zealanders just became less free and their government just got bigger.

While pinheads like you celebrate the action, you're actually celebrating the eventual total state control over a people with zero freedom.

100% safety. 0% freedom. History repeats yet one more time despite where history shows this takes us each and every single time.

Or, as happened in Australia, an unregistered firearm before the gun ban in 1996 tripled in value on the black market. Criminal gangs in Australia, of which there are several, bought many of the semiautomatics from previously law-abiding gun owners where they are used in gangland violence in Australia.

The same thing will happen in NZ, the government-sanctioned transfer of firearms from law-abiding citizens to the criminals.

Remember, as none of these pre-ban firearms are registered, the government has no idea how many will remain in circulation after the confiscation. They might collect a third and then declare the confiscation a total success. Just as happened in Australia.
 
That PM isnt much of a leader. Knee jerking is a sign of weakness and cowardice.
Worked in Australia

Correlation does not equal causation.

This idea that stuff that works in other countries can’t possibly work in the USA is bullshit.

You have 35,000 people dying every year by gun violence. Another 100,000 a year are wounded. And it’s not just gangbangers and brown people. The vast majority of victims are white people. The vast majority of gun suicides are white people in the mid-west. The highest rates of violent crime are now I the fly-over states.

What we have isn’t working….that should be clear to everyone.

It works fine.
 
The libs think that this is a victory.....dead Muslims....and a gun ban.

This won't turn out well.
It has turned out very well in Australia.

And yet an Australian with an RV full of guns just shot up a mosque.
In New Zealand. Did you know that is a DIFFERENT COUNTRY?

New Zealand is just down the block from Australia.
 
Just a knee jerk reaction from a politician.

The gun is the tool. The person using it is the weapon.

That PM should let us all know when she can control and regulate assholes who use guns to kill people. She could make a fortune.
 
Until today, it was perfectly legal for a Muslim (or a Xtian, Buddhist, Jew, Druid, or Hindu) to guard themselves and their loved ones while praying at their respective house of worship with a firearm.

After today, they will depend on police to show up after a massacre to file the appropriate reports.

A real stop forward in the effort for religious minorities to protect themselves.
 
Looks like that cop has an AR.
As they should

If we don't need them, the police don't need them.

The police are not some new class of Knights, we do not give up our RKBA to them, what we grant them is only the power to arrest without fear of prosecution as long as they follow procedures.

They have flash-bang grenades and tear gas...

Those aren't arms.

The police should be no better armed than the populace.

But they still have them….. “if we don’t need them, the police don’t need them” doesn’t apply then….right?
 

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