New Zealand citizens have voluntarily surrendered 37 of 1,200,000 firearms already.

Seriously.
As though 50 dead New Zealanders is 'perception'.

More 'perception':

For Australia, the NFA seems to have been incredibly successful in terms of lives saved. While 13 gun massacres (the killing of 4 or more people at one time) occurred in Australia in the 18 years before the NFA, resulting in more than one hundred deaths, in the 14 following years (and up to the present), there were no gun massacres.

The NFA also seems to have reduced firearm homicide outside of mass shootings, as well as firearm suicide. In the seven years before the NFA (1989-1995), the average annual firearm suicide death rate per 100,000 was 2.6 (with a yearly range of 2.2 to 2.9); in the seven years after the buyback was fully implemented (1998-2004), the average annual firearm suicide rate was 1.1 (yearly range 0.8 to 1.4). In the seven years before the NFA, the average annual firearm homicide rate per 100,000 was .43 (range .27 to .60) while for the seven years post NFA, the average annual firearm homicide rate was .25 (range .16 to .33)

Additional evidence strongly suggests that the buyback causally reduced firearm deaths. First, the drop in firearm deaths was largest among the type of firearms most affected by the buyback. Second, firearm deaths in states with higher buyback rates per capita fell proportionately more than in states with lower buyback rates.​


More reality......the Australian gun confiscation has not stopped or reduced gun crime....in fact, it is now on the rise.....

Gun city: Young, dumb and armed

The notion that a military-grade weapon could be in the hands of local criminals is shocking, but police have already seized at least five machine guns and assault rifles in the past 18 months. The AK-47 was not among them.

Only a fortnight ago, law enforcement authorities announced they were hunting another seven assault rifles recently smuggled into the country. Weapons from the shipment have been used in armed robberies and drive-by shootings.

These are just a handful of the thousands of illicit guns fuelling a wave of violent crime in the world’s most liveable city.

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Despite Australia’s strict gun control regime, criminals are now better armed than at any time since then-Prime Minister John Howard introduced a nationwide firearm buyback scheme in response to the 1996 Port Arthur massacre.

Shootings have become almost a weekly occurrence, with more than 125 people, mostly young men, wounded in the past five year

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While the body count was higher during Melbourne’s ‘Underbelly War’ (1999-2005), more people have been seriously maimed in the recent spate of shootings and reprisals.

Crimes associated with firearm possession have also more than doubled, driven by the easy availability of handguns, semi-automatic rifles, shotguns and, increasingly, machine guns, that are smuggled into the country or stolen from licensed owners.

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These weapons have been used in dozens of recent drive-by shootings of homes and businesses, as well as targeted and random attacks in parks, shopping centres and roads.

“They’re young, dumb and armed,” said one former underworld associate, who survived a shooting attempt in the western suburbs several years ago.

“It used to be that if you were involved in something bad you might have to worry about [being shot]. Now people get shot over nothing - unprovoked.”

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Gun crime soars
In this series, Fairfax Media looks at Melbourne’s gun problem and the new breed of criminals behind the escalating violence.

The investigation has found:

  • There have been at least 99 shootings in the past 20 months - more than one incident a week since January 2015
  • Known criminals were caught with firearms 755 times last year, compared to 143 times in 2011
  • The epicentre of the problem is a triangle between Coolaroo, Campbellfield and Glenroy in the north-west, with Cranbourne, Narre Warren and Dandenong in the south-east close behind
  • Criminals are using gunshot wounds to the arms and legs as warnings to pay debts
  • Assault rifles and handguns are being smuggled into Australia via shipments of electronics and metal parts
In response to the violence, it can be revealed the state government is planning to introduce new criminal offences for drive-by shootings, manufacturing of firearms with new technologies such as 3D printers, and more police powers to keep weapons out of the hands of known criminals.
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The second part of the series....
Gun city: Gunslingers of the North West


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'Thousands' of illegal guns tipped to be handed over in firearms amnesty

Asked roughly how many he expected to be handed in, Mr Keenan said: "Look I certainly think the number will be in the thousands."

The Australian Crime Commission estimated in 2012 there were at least 250,000 illegal guns in Australia. But a Senate report noted last year it was impossible to estimate how many illicit weapons are out there.


And despite Australia's strict border controls, the smuggling of high-powered military-style firearms is also a growing problem.
 
Seriously.
As though 50 dead New Zealanders is 'perception'.

More 'perception':

For Australia, the NFA seems to have been incredibly successful in terms of lives saved. While 13 gun massacres (the killing of 4 or more people at one time) occurred in Australia in the 18 years before the NFA, resulting in more than one hundred deaths, in the 14 following years (and up to the present), there were no gun massacres.

The NFA also seems to have reduced firearm homicide outside of mass shootings, as well as firearm suicide. In the seven years before the NFA (1989-1995), the average annual firearm suicide death rate per 100,000 was 2.6 (with a yearly range of 2.2 to 2.9); in the seven years after the buyback was fully implemented (1998-2004), the average annual firearm suicide rate was 1.1 (yearly range 0.8 to 1.4). In the seven years before the NFA, the average annual firearm homicide rate per 100,000 was .43 (range .27 to .60) while for the seven years post NFA, the average annual firearm homicide rate was .25 (range .16 to .33)

Additional evidence strongly suggests that the buyback causally reduced firearm deaths. First, the drop in firearm deaths was largest among the type of firearms most affected by the buyback. Second, firearm deaths in states with higher buyback rates per capita fell proportionately more than in states with lower buyback rates.​


As there are now increasing amounts of gun crime in Australia.....we look at what happened in the U.S. as more people own and carry guns over the same time period...

Over the last 26 years, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.
 
Picturing innocent LEGAL Owners of firearms bare-ass naked in a jail shower [...]

"LEGAL". Seriously.

Absolutely.. All but a negligible fraction of those weapons are owned legally, by law abiding voters, with no criminal record.... "LEGAL" --- YES...

So a mass confiscation, with the kind of INTIMIDATING THREATS from govt that I showed you from Australia is aimed at Gramps with his semi-auto rifle protecting his sheep from predators... Or women with restraining orders against PROVEN abusive husbands.. They BECOME criminals when any "confiscation" begins...
 
Out of an estimated 1.2 million registered guns, New Zealand police report that as of Tuesday night, 37 firearms have been surrendered nationwide, according to BuzzFeed.
Buzzfeed ministry of truth approved
What registered firearms? None of mine are registered.
 
New Zealand lol

Didn't you know that New Zealand is the place where the elites and the Big Tech giants and the globalists and all that scum ....have chosen as the place they will flee? they are even building bunkers over there!

Haven't you heard that they have been buying enormous amounts of land ...acres and acres there? These globalist scum can not have patriot New Zealand citizens walking around with firearms over there now, can they?

With the complicity of that traitor, New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern who should be in jail already!

What are you waiting for, all you New Zealanders patriots! get you yellow vests NOW and NEVER NEVER NEVER surrunder your firearms!
 
These globalist scum can not have patriot New Zealand citizens walking around with firearms over there now, can they?
It's as though AR/AK derivatives are the only firearms that exist to rightard crazies.
 
WAKE UP !

you proud New Zealanders!!!!


wake up to the witch you have as a Prime Minister who is selling your land to the Deep State!


WAKE UP NEW ZEALAND PATRIOTS!
 
WAKE UP !

you proud New Zealanders!!!!


wake up to the witch you have as a Prime Minister who is selling your land to the Deep State!


WAKE UP NEW ZEALAND PATRIOTS!
lol

Conservatives are as ignorant as they are stupid.

There is no ‘deep state’ – in the US or New Zealand.

Conservatives have no idea what they’re talking about, as usual.
 
Picturing innocent LEGAL Owners of firearms bare-ass naked in a jail shower [...]

"LEGAL". Seriously.

Absolutely.. All but a negligible fraction of those weapons are owned legally, by law abiding voters, with no criminal record.... "LEGAL" --- YES...

So a mass confiscation, with the kind of INTIMIDATING THREATS from govt that I showed you from Australia is aimed at Gramps with his semi-auto rifle protecting his sheep from predators... Or women with restraining orders against PROVEN abusive husbands.. They BECOME criminals when any "confiscation" begins...
More ignorance and stupidity from the right – again, conservatives have no idea what they’re talking about.
 
No 1st or 2nd Amendment in the New Zealand Constitution.
Not even a New Zealand constitution. It's great. We can ban efficient mass killing weapons at the drop of a hat. Ah, parliamentary systems, nothing finer.
 
No 1st or 2nd Amendment in the New Zealand Constitution.
Not even a New Zealand constitution. It's great. We can ban efficient mass killing weapons at the drop of a hat. Ah, parliamentary systems, nothing finer.

I view with trepidation any body politic than can ban anything at the 'drop of a hat' ... A state that can ban something you hate without a debate, can just as easily ban something you truly love.

Everyone cheers a ban on something they don't personally use, require, or desire.
 
I view with trepidation any body politic than can ban anything at the 'drop of a hat' ... A state that can ban something you hate without a debate, can just as easily ban something you truly love.
And if enough people love the banned thing the government is guaranteed to lose the next election as proportional representation means there's no safe seats. The legislation can be repealed just as easily. Guarantee it won't be repealed even if the government does lose the next election. Some small minority of users' convenience does not outweigh fifty New Zealand lives in half an hour or whatever.
 
Be that as it may, at least we've got those military style semis out of circulation. I think that can be called 'winning'.
 
Be that as it may, at least we've got those military style semis out of circulation. I think that can be called 'winning'.


You mean the ones that weren't used for any kind of crime at all? Versus the one that was........?

You are an idiot.
 
How many Kiwi's are going to lose their guns in the bushes? Or simply ignore the buyback?

I know I sure as hell wouldn't comply.
 

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