New Yorkers Shocked To Find Food Prices Rising After Minimum Wage Hike

[Blues Man]

/——/ It wasn’t a Gubmint program and it eventually fell by the way side.

raising the minimum wage to appropriate levels can boost our economy.

One simple question for you, Daniel! How do you raise minimum wage without a corresponding increase in ALL wages?

Your Point?

What's yours?

That other peoples' money belongs to you?

Congress is delegated the Power not the Right to Tax, for a Reason.

So what?

Other people's money is not yours. You pay your taxes I pay mine but I have no claim on what you earn

 

[danielpalos]

Government Is the Public Sector means of production for delivering public goods and public services.

Again look up the definition.

If our government does not own all means of production, distribution and exchange then it is not a socialist government.

The government produces no goods

our alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror are pure socialism on a national basis.

By definition they are not

neither is providing for the general welfare, in that case.

It isn't

Socialism has a definition look it up.

Welfare isn't socialism.

The public resources dedicated to our alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror; are public sector means of "social" production that have no basis in Capitalism.

 

[Blues Man]

Again look up the definition.

If our government does not own all means of production, distribution and exchange then it is not a socialist government.

The government produces no goods

our alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror are pure socialism on a national basis.

By definition they are not

neither is providing for the general welfare, in that case.

It isn't

Socialism has a definition look it up.

Welfare isn't socialism.

The public resources dedicated to our alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror; and public sector means of "social" production that have no basis in Capitalism.

No they aren't

Laws and law enforcement aren't production.

 

[danielpalos]

New Yorkers Shocked To Find Food Prices Rising After Minimum Wage Hike​

New Yorkers shocked to find food prices rising after minimum wage hike
The result of the Fight for 15 movement in New York City has finally gone into effect. The minimum wage jumped by 15% in many cases, to $15 per hour this month. This mostly affects employers of lower skill level workers, particularly in the food service and beverage industries. And now that labor costs have risen, restaurants from fast food joints to upper-end fine dining establishments have raised their prices. As a result, some people have had to make adjustments in their budgets and lifestyles, going out to eat less often and bringing their own lunches to work.
As you might imagine, that’s not only been annoying for the customers. It’s impacting the restaurant business as well. (NY Post)

New York City’s hotly contested minimum wage increase to $15 — up from $13 or $13.50, depending on employer size — rolled out citywide at the start of the year. And although that’s good news for NYC restaurant servers, patrons are grumbling about its impact on menu prices at their favorite eateries.
Ahead of the wage hike, the NYC Hospitality Alliance conducted a survey of 574 local food establishments in late 2018. They found that 87 percent of respondents planned to increase menu prices this year to offset the minimum wage bump. True to their promise, the cost of food has risen at various spots around the city.​

Holy cow. Who could have seen that coming? Well… pretty much everybody. And that includes the Democrats who passed the $15 per hour minimum wage bill. How did they plan on offsetting the significant bump in dinner bills? By eliminating tipping for the wait staff. That idea went over like a lead balloon and was quickly abandoned by a number of eateries that tried it.

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Really!! Is anyone surprised? This happens EVERY TIME you hike the minimum wage for your socialist schemes. But supposedly THIS time would be different because the right people were in charge, RIGHT?!
Indeed, those Progressive Democrats either did not take any or slept through basic economics classes in school. If raising the minimum wage for service industry workers won't impact those businesses, then NOT raising it will have no impact on the workers, right?
Progressive Democrats majority in Congress is the next step to Venezuela's economy.

even the dollar menu didn't double. and, Labor can buy more burgers at the higher wage. Henry Ford would be proud.

Henry Ford wanted to make cars affordable to his employees by utilizing a more efficient manufacturing process, namely the assembly line. Not by raising the wages he paid his employees, so no, I doubt he would be proud.

automation; what a capital concept.

 

[danielpalos]

raising the minimum wage to appropriate levels can boost our economy.

One simple question for you, Daniel! How do you raise minimum wage without a corresponding increase in ALL wages?

Your Point?

What's yours?

That other peoples' money belongs to you?

Congress is delegated the Power not the Right to Tax, for a Reason.

So what?

Other people's money is not yours. You pay your taxes I pay mine but I have no claim on what you earn

It is not Your money if we have problems in our Republic. Government is socialism. Congress has Power to Tax.

 

[danielpalos]

our alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror are pure socialism on a national basis.

By definition they are not

neither is providing for the general welfare, in that case.

It isn't

Socialism has a definition look it up.

Welfare isn't socialism.

The public resources dedicated to our alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror; and public sector means of "social" production that have no basis in Capitalism.

No they aren't

Laws and law enforcement aren't production.

they are public sector means of production for "social values" not capital values.

 

[BuckToothMoron]

Since labor is only 20% of the price, doubling the labor costs only raises the price 20%. Try and remain calm. The number of people that can afford the cost more than makes up for it. Scumbag GOP propaganda has given us incredibly rich people, the worst inequality and upward mobility in our history. GOP voters are the stupidest voters in the world, thanks to the worst propaganda machine in our history..

I wish more people on both sides of the political spectrum would do open and honest research on wealth and income inequality. Although some political policies (like Trump’s recent tax break for corporations) can have an adverse effective, far and away the biggest culprit for the wealth gap is the Federal Reserve and it’s monetary policies which include QE and ZIRP.

Unfortunately, understanding this takes effort, and it is much easier to put on a lapel pin of your political party and blame the other side. Too many people FrancoHFW do the easy thing. I guess those people believe the brains only purpose is to fill the void between their ears.

 

[Blues Man]

One simple question for you, Daniel! How do you raise minimum wage without a corresponding increase in ALL wages?

Your Point?

What's yours?

That other peoples' money belongs to you?

Congress is delegated the Power not the Right to Tax, for a Reason.

So what?

Other people's money is not yours. You pay your taxes I pay mine but I have no claim on what you earn

It is not Your money if we have problems in our Republic. Government is socialism. Congress has Power to Tax.

I hate to tell you but yes it is.

The government only has claim to what they tax me and the tax rate is not 100%

 

[Blues Man]

By definition they are not

neither is providing for the general welfare, in that case.

It isn't

Socialism has a definition look it up.

Welfare isn't socialism.

The public resources dedicated to our alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror; and public sector means of "social" production that have no basis in Capitalism.

No they aren't

Laws and law enforcement aren't production.

they are public sector means of production for "social values" not capital values.

You cannot produce values as values are intangible

You really don't have a very good command of the language do you?

 

[danielpalos]

Your Point?

What's yours?

That other peoples' money belongs to you?

Congress is delegated the Power not the Right to Tax, for a Reason.

So what?

Other people's money is not yours. You pay your taxes I pay mine but I have no claim on what you earn

It is not Your money if we have problems in our Republic. Government is socialism. Congress has Power to Tax.

I hate to tell you but yes it is.

The government only has claim to what they tax me and the tax rate is not 100%

In right wing fantasy, You are always right. Our fiat money is a government obligation; you mere have Use of it. It belongs to the Government.

 

[danielpalos]

neither is providing for the general welfare, in that case.

It isn't

Socialism has a definition look it up.

Welfare isn't socialism.

The public resources dedicated to our alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror; and public sector means of "social" production that have no basis in Capitalism.

No they aren't

Laws and law enforcement aren't production.

they are public sector means of production for "social values" not capital values.

You cannot produce values as values are intangible

You really don't have a very good command of the language do you?

socialism is about social values not capital values. Only the right wing, Never gets it.

 

[Supposn]

One simple question for you, Daniel! How do you raise minimum wage without a corresponding increase in ALL wages?

OldStyle, Federal Minimum's wage rate, (due to the wage differentiation concept), bolsters all USA wage scales, but it doesn't proportionally affect them all equally. The minimum rate's of greatest proportional benefit to the those earning the lowest 20% of USA job scales and of lesser proportional benefit to those earning higher wage scales.

The minimum's effect is inversely related to difference between the minimum's and the job's actual job's rate.

[Minimum rate's effect upon various wage scales vary.
To the extents that wage rates' vary, the minimum rate's proportional effects upon products' labor costs vary.
To the extent that products' proportion of costs due to labor vary, the minimum rate's effect upon a product's total costs vary.

To the extent that our nation produces various products and all of the other prior mentioned “moving parts”, the minimum rate's proportional increase upon our nation's aggregate products' prices, are extremely less than the proportional increase of the minimum rate itself or the proportional net benefits to USA wage earners and their families.

Respectfully, Supposn

 

[francoHFW]

Since labor is only 20% of the price, doubling the labor costs only raises the price 20%. Try and remain calm. The number of people that can afford the cost more than makes up for it. Scumbag GOP propaganda has given us incredibly rich people, the worst inequality and upward mobility in our history. GOP voters are the stupidest voters in the world, thanks to the worst propaganda machine in our history..

I wish more people on both sides of the political spectrum would do open and honest research on wealth and income inequality. Although some political policies (like Trump’s recent tax break for corporations) can have an adverse effective, far and away the biggest culprit for the wealth gap is the Federal Reserve and it’s monetary policies which include QE and ZIRP.

Unfortunately, understanding this takes effort, and it is much easier to put on a lapel pin of your political party and blame the other side. Too many people FrancoHFW do the easy thing. I guess those people believe the brains only purpose is to fill the void between their ears.

Everyone with a functioning brain who follows respected media in the world agrees with me, only brainwashed functional morons in the GOP disagree. Because they are idiots like you. Change the channel, read any newspaper in the world not owned by Rupert Murdoch oh, and rejoin the real world. Breaking for the dupes... Hillary Obama and Democrats are honest, Rich Americans don't pay enough in taxes, your GOP is a disgrace and only brainwashing makes the lying stealing pure crap GOP possible...

 

[francoHFW]

Since labor is only 20% of the price, doubling the labor costs only raises the price 20%. Try and remain calm. The number of people that can afford the cost more than makes up for it. Scumbag GOP propaganda has given us incredibly rich people, the worst inequality and upward mobility in our history. GOP voters are the stupidest voters in the world, thanks to the worst propaganda machine in our history..

I wish more people on both sides of the political spectrum would do open and honest research on wealth and income inequality. Although some political policies (like Trump’s recent tax break for corporations) can have an adverse effective, far and away the biggest culprit for the wealth gap is the Federal Reserve and it’s monetary policies which include QE and ZIRP.

Unfortunately, understanding this takes effort, and it is much easier to put on a lapel pin of your political party and blame the other side. Too many people FrancoHFW do the easy thing. I guess those people believe the brains only purpose is to fill the void between their ears.

Yeah another GOP conspiracy theory rather than just looking at the facts... Wake up and smell the coffee, flat tax systems are a giveaway to the rich corrupt GOP joke, brainwashed functional moron. And yes that is what we have now duh...

 

[Supposn]

our alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror are pure socialism on a national basis.

By definition they are not

...
No they, [i.e. government expenditures for government services ] aren't [service products].
Laws and law enforcement aren't production.

Blues Man, U.S. Department of Defense expenditures are due to services they provide to our nation. You or I may consider many of their expenditures as wasteful, but never the less their expenditures are included within USA's annual gross domestic products. Similarly, all net law enforcement expenditures within the USA are services to our nation that are included within the calculations of our annual GDPs.

We do not test the wisdom of the expenditures that are included within our nation's expenditures. If the voters choose to squander their government's tax revenues and public credit on behalf of sports stadiums, no more or less than what our nation spends to maintain our pets, or purchase cosmetics, these are all included within our calculations of our nation's annual GDPs of goods and service products.

Although you don't choose to consider the cost of our legal justice system and law enforcement as production, economist as expressed within the calculations of our nations' GDPs do so consider them within the aggregate goods and service products we all consume.

Respectfully, Supposn

 

[Oldstyle]

One simple question for you, Daniel! How do you raise minimum wage without a corresponding increase in ALL wages?

OldStyle, Federal Minimum's wage rate, (due to the wage differentiation concept), bolsters all USA wage scales, but it doesn't proportionally affect them all equally. The minimum rate's of greatest proportional benefit to the those earning the lowest 20% of USA job scales and of lesser proportional benefit to those earning higher wage scales.

The minimum's effect is inversely related to difference between the minimum's and the job's actual job's rate.

[Minimum rate's effect upon various wage scales vary.
To the extents that wage rates' vary, the minimum rate's proportional effects upon products' labor costs vary.
To the extent that products' proportion of costs due to labor vary, the minimum rate's effect upon a product's total costs vary.

To the extent that our nation produces various products and all of the other prior mentioned “moving parts”, the minimum rate's proportional increase upon our nation's aggregate products' prices, are extremely less than the proportional increase of the minimum rate itself or the proportional net benefits to USA wage earners and their families.

Respectfully, Supposn

I give you the same question, Supposn. If you raise the national minimum wage to $15 an hour...how are you NOT going to have everyone who wasn't working for minimum wage because they had learned job skills that got them more money...not knocking on their bosses door asking for a raise? Do you honestly think that someone who used to make $15 an hour but had started their job at $7.50 an hour isn't going to demand to be compensated for those additional job skills? In Communist countries they can get away with paying everyone the same rate no matter what skills they have but to be brutally frank with you...if you try that here...you'll have people rioting in the streets!

 

[Oldstyle]

One simple question for you, Daniel! How do you raise minimum wage without a corresponding increase in ALL wages?

Your Point?

What's yours?

That other peoples' money belongs to you?

Congress is delegated the Power not the Right to Tax, for a Reason.

So what?

Other people's money is not yours. You pay your taxes I pay mine but I have no claim on what you earn

It is not Your money if we have problems in our Republic. Government is socialism. Congress has Power to Tax.

Congress has the power to tax if we allow them to do so! Congress is not the "landed gentry" lording it over the rest of us...they are our representatives and are in Washington to do our bidding.

 

[Oldstyle]

/----/ The rest of the Ford $5 a day raise story:
The $5-a-day rate was about half pay and half bonus. The bonus came with character requirements and was enforced by the Socialization Organization. This was a committee that would visit the employees' homes to ensure that they were doing things the "American way." They were supposed to avoid social ills such as gambling and drinking. They were to learn English, and many (primarily the recent immigrants) had to attend classes to become "Americanized." Women were not eligible for the bonus unless they were single and supporting the family. Also, men were not eligible if their wives worked outside the home.

thank Goodness we are more liberal now and don't insist on silly right wing social requirements.

/——/ It wasn’t a Gubmint program and it eventually fell by the way side.

raising the minimum wage to appropriate levels can boost our economy.

One simple question for you, Daniel! How do you raise minimum wage without a corresponding increase in ALL wages?

Your Point?

What does wealth inequality have to do with my question? Try not to be TOO obtuse, Daniel! It's a simple question. How do you increase the minimum wage to $15 an hour and not see a huge spike in wage increases to everyone else?

 

[Supposn]

I give you the same question, Supposn. If you raise the national minimum wage to $15 an hour...how are you NOT going to have everyone who wasn't working for minimum wage because they had learned job skills that got them more money...not knocking on their bosses door asking for a raise? Do you honestly think that someone who used to make $15 an hour but had started their job at $7.50 an hour isn't going to demand to be compensated for those additional job skills? In Communist countries they can get away with paying everyone the same rate no matter what skills they have but to be brutally frank with you...if you try that here...you'll have people rioting in the streets!

OldStyle, due to the concept of wage differential, the federal minimum wage rate bolsters all USA wage scales, regardless of how many, or how few persons knock on the doors and requesting a raise. And in aggregate, they generally in aggregate should, and do gain raises each time the minimum wage is increased.

The federal minimum rate U.S. Has always (as it should) be increased in a manner that would shock USA's labor markets. On the contrary, because the timing and extent of its modifications were directly subject to congressional politicians rather than to civil service statisticians, the modifications of our minimum rate have been too slow, and too poorly, and consequentially their economic benefits have been less than they should have been.

I'm a proponent of a 12% annual increase until we achieve 125% of February 1968 CPI, and thereafter the minimum rate should be monitored and annually (when necessary), modified to retain that purchasing power.

It's conceivable that a person may equate the minimum rate with paying everyone the same rate. I doubt if you ever met anyone as naive or ignorant to such an extent. Respectfully, Supposn

 

[Blues Man]

It isn't

Socialism has a definition look it up.

Welfare isn't socialism.

The public resources dedicated to our alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror; and public sector means of "social" production that have no basis in Capitalism.

No they aren't

Laws and law enforcement aren't production.

they are public sector means of production for "social values" not capital values.

You cannot produce values as values are intangible

You really don't have a very good command of the language do you?

socialism is about social values not capital values. Only the right wing, Never gets it.

Have you looked up the definition of socialism yet?

Word mean things.

Socialism

: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods