New York Times: ACORN - Tuning In Too Late

[Otter_Creek]

They are a front group to promote a socialist agenda,you know, steal the car company's and eat $100.00 a pound steak while convincing the poor they are doing it all for them.
They want to spread the wealth that they're to damn lazy to work for.

Actually, redistribution of wealth in this manner would be more in line with Communism, not Socialism.

Socialism is simply government takeover of private enterprise. Communism is equal re-distribution of wealth.

Either way the above statement is a complete fallacy. Unless you believe, by the same logic, that all "Faith-Based" initiatives are "Front groups to promote a Theocratic agenda".

Must be a fallacy then

 

[The T]

And the ROOTS are deep. ACORN isn't the ONLY one out there. There's a plethora of these groups out there that get the same kind of support and money from the Statists...

What exactly does a few episodes with stupid assed office employees covering for prostitutes have to do with voter registration?

The Complete Guide to ACORN Voter Fraud< Read

Voter Fraud goes WAY back with this orginization. Sorry that you don't recognize it, and your BOY'S ties to it. It took a couple posing like a PIMP/Prostitute to EXPOSE it.

*You FAIL* Again. Now go back to the DU and garner more talking points.

 

[Vast LWC]

Voter Fraud goes WAY back with this orginization. Sorry that you don't recognize it, and your BOY'S ties to it. It took a couple posing like a PIMP/Prostitute to EXPOSE it.

*You FAIL* Again. Now go back to the DU and garner more talking points.

Having consultants take your money and give you fake names on lists of REGISTRANTS, and then pursuing legal action against said consultants, is not voter fraud.

Voter fraud would be if you had, for instance, taken over a voting booth and had people cast votes under those registered names.

Is that what happened? Where there fake votes cast by ACORN?

Apparently, I'm not the one with the "Talking Points" here. I just deal with the facts.

And, again, you people are acting like these stupid fuckwads who were helping prostitutes make ACORN look guilty in voter fraud. What does one thing have to do with the other?

 

[rdean]

When I pointed out that Acorn turned in the people making false registrations, someone on one of these post said I was an idiot and it was others that found the problem, NOT Acorn.

Yea, Acorn is going to turn into the US Government, Goofy, Dopey, Snow White, Bambi.....

And they called me stupid. How can you have a meaningful debate with people who believe the first thing someone told them? Unfortunately, they were standing next to another Republican. That means the first thing they heard was crazy. So crazy is what they believe, no matter how far fetched.

 

[The T]

Voter Fraud goes WAY back with this orginization. Sorry that you don't recognize it, and your BOY'S ties to it. It took a couple posing like a PIMP/Prostitute to EXPOSE it.

*You FAIL* Again. Now go back to the DU and garner more talking points.

Having consultants take your money and give you fake names on lists of REGISTRANTS, and then pursuing legal action against said consultants, is not voter fraud.

Voter fraud would be if you had, for instance, taken over a voting booth and had people cast votes under those registered names.

Is that what happened? Where there fake votes cast by ACORN?

Apparently, I'm not the one with the "Talking Points" here. I just deal with the facts.

And, again, you people are acting like these stupid fuckwads who were helping prostitutes make ACORN look guilty in voter fraud. What does one thing have to do with the other?

They HELPED perpetuate voter Fraud . Makes them Culpable under LAW.

Nice deflection and FALSE. Nice to see that you argee with FRAUD.

But I expect NO Less from a Statist.

 

[Vast LWC]

They HELPED perpetuate voter Fraud . Makes them Culpable under LAW.

Nice deflection and FALSE. Nice to see that you argee with FRAUD.

But I expect NO Less from a Statist.

Well, you're wrong twice.

Firstly, registering false names is not "Voter Fraud" unless people attempt to vote using said names. Which didn't happen.

Secondly, since ACORN brought the actions of said consultants to the attention of the law in the first place, and then assisted in catching and prosecuting those responsible, as they had been ripped-off by said falsification of information, they certainly couldn't, under any circumstances, be considered to have been HELPING to perpetuate any kind of fraud, much less "voter" fraud.

 

[obama2ndterm]

Haliburtom steals millions from the taxpayers, and we are still paying them? Unbelievable!

 

[Ame®icano]

ACORN was always a political target. republicans hated them because they registered young, black and hispanic voters.

No, they hated them because they did so while pushing them to be Democrats, which is why there is so much corruption.

If they had been honest brokers they would not have been a target, they chose to make ACORN a front group for drumming up Democratic support.

Watch the video...

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[Vast LWC]

Notice that the title of the piece is "Voter Registration Fraud", NOT "Voter Fraud".

There's a reason for that.

In addition, ACORN was the one who started the investigation into the registration issue in the first place. That's because ACORN was the one who was paying independent consultants, who were defrauding ACORN, as well as everyone else.

The reason for these frauds is that ACORN had an ill-advised policy of rewarding consultants who registered more voters with extra money. So, the consultants padded their registration lists in order to get the bonuses.

It was a widespread phneomena, because ACORN did not screen the applicants as they should have, they just chose anyone off the street basically to go out and register people to vote.

Now, all this shows a VERY bad lack of judgement on ACORN's part, but not an attempt by the ACORN organization itself to defraud anyone.

And "Voter Fraud" is not even in the realm of possibility here, because no-one is even suggesting that people came to vote as these fake registrants.

 

[Ame®icano]

Notice that the title of the piece is "Voter Registration Fraud", NOT "Voter Fraud".

There's a reason for that.

Yes there is. I typed it that way.

 

[Vast LWC]

Notice that the title of the piece is "Voter Registration Fraud", NOT "Voter Fraud".

There's a reason for that.

Yes there is. I typed it that way.

LOL, you got me there.

 

[mdn2000]

Again and again, the Liberal/Marxist tells a lie, "its only voter registration fraud, they did not vote" This is a lie, many did vote, many are being convicted, without voter ID nothing stops fraudulent registrars from fraudulently voting.

The Liberal/Marxist repeats the lie "they did not vote" so many times that everyone gets brainwashed into beleiving them. Just another Saul Alinsky tactic.

Wisconsin Man Admits He Cast Ballot for Obama for Dead Wife - Political News - FOXNews.com

Wroblewski was the fifth person charged with election-related crimes in Milwaukee County stemming from the presidential election. Charges against a sixth man, a felon who allegedly voted illegally, were filed this week. Dozens of other cases remain under investigation.

A Government Accountability Board survey of district attorneys released last week showed that only two other election cases were known to be filed statewide.

Center For Individual Freedom

CNN’s Drew Griffin reports from Lake County, Indiana:

“ACORN's in trouble all across the country with it's a huge voter-registration drive. Actually, 1.3 million new voters registered according to ACORN. The problem is, are they really voters? Up in Lake County, Indiana, they're finding out they are not. Some 5,000 applications came in, all filled out by ACORN, and there they are. They went through the first 2,100 of them, every single one of them, fraudulent.” On October 13, Fox News interviewed two newly registered young men in Ohio. One said he’d registered with ACORN 15 times! Another said he registered 73 times! Both said the ACORN canvassers pleaded: “If you don’t sign I’ll lose my job.”

The New York Post reported:

“Last July, ACORN settled the largest case of voter fraud in Washington state history. Seven ACORN workers had submitted nearly 2,000 bogus voter forms. According to case records, they flipped through phone books for names to use on the forms, including 'Leon Spinks,' 'Frekkie Magoal' and 'Fruto Boy Crispila.' Three ACORN election hoaxers pleaded guilty in October. A King County prosecutor called ACORN's criminal sabotage ‘an act of vandalism upon the voter rolls.’”

Falsified registrations become votes - John Fund - Politico.com

There are already documented examples of fraudulent registrations being converted into fraudulent votes in Ohio, where ACORN and other groups were active. Darrell Nash, an ACORN registration worker, submitted an illegal form for himself and then cast a paper ballot during the state's "early voting" period.

Franklin County prosecutor Ron O'Brien also cracked down in the case of 13 out-of-state registrants who came to Ohio to register voters in Columbus for the group Vote From Home. The group all lived out of the same rented 1,175-square-foot house in Ohio, registered to vote and then most of them either cast early voting ballots or submitted applications for absentee ballots before leaving the state. They have agreed to have all of their ballots canceled in exchange for the prosecutor's decision not to file charges.

The Columbus Dispatch reported last month that "none of them seems to have ties to Ohio" — and apparently had no intention of staying there. One has even moved back to England, where he is a student. It is illegal in almost all states to vote somewhere that is not your permanent residence.