New Survey: Polar Bear Population Is Largest Ever

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    You left out this part;

    "Planetary physics require the world to warm as greenhouse gas concentrations rise, so without greenhouse gas mitigation, the ice will continue to melt. For an animal dependent on sea ice to survive, the prospects are not good. As the ice decline continues, the plight of the polar bear only can worsen."
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    Your post contains no fact and your links also contain no facts? You did not quote from your links? How are we to respond to your post? You simply get to use google as a deck of cards and post the results as if that is a settled fact? Either way, quote and comment otherwise I will simply post 4 links to win the hand.
     
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    I read it, but YOU didn't realize that Polar Bears survived little to NO summer ice for centuries in a world that was around 2-3C warmer than now. Polar Bears are still here today....

    The decline stopped after 2007, been roughly stable since then.

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    Only those easily fooled by loose association information fooled by that article. Polar bears have always starved. Always have....always will. Like any other species. The thing is, less polar bears are starving now....something National Geographic conveniently ignores....which they can. They know there are plenty of suckers out there.:113::113:

    Oh.... and hate to break it to you sweetie but it's always about the politics!:flirtysmile4:
     
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    I see that both Koshergirl and Windparadox doesn't realize that Summer ice cover doesn't endanger Polar Bear survival, how else can their over all population increase SINCE the early part of the first decade while summer ice declined to a low in 2007, then stopped declining, while Polar Bear population increases some more since 2005:

    Global polar bear population larger than previous thought – almost 30,000

    The results of three recently-released studies that were not included in the last IUCN Red List assessment add more than 2,050 bears (on average)1 to the official 2015 global polar bear estimate, a point you won’t likely hear next Monday (27 February) from most polar bear specialists, conservation organizations, their cheerleaders and corporate sponsors on International Polar Bear Day.

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    This means the adjusted 2015 global estimate for polar bears should be about 28,500 (average), a marked increase over the official estimate of 26,500 (average) for 2015 — and an even larger increase over the 2005 estimate of about 22,500 (average)2, despite the dramatic loss of summer sea ice since 2007 that we hear about endlessly.

    It is increasingly obvious that polar bears are thriving despite having lived through summer sea ice levels not predicted to occur until 2050 – levels of sea ice that experts said would wipe out 2/3 of the world’s polar bears (Amstrup et al. 2007; Crockford 2017 v3).
     
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    But you did. So, the lying was your idea. You made a thread titled "Polar Bear Population is increasing", and then screamed in your OP that "Polar Bears doesn't seem to be bothered by low Arctic sea Ice that much after all".

    So, same old same old. You lied, I called you on it, and you went into a screaming butthurt meltdown.

    I'm fine with that situation. If you want to keep lying, I'll continue to enjoy pointing it out. It's funny to watch you get hysterical. But if you'd like to end your humiliation, there's an easy way you can do that. If you stop lying, I'll stop pointing it out. Does that sound fair?
     
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    You are amazing since I didn't make the headline, the author did, and if you bothered to read the article it was about a specific region.

    Headline I didn't make:

    New Survey: Polar Bear Population Is Largest Ever ( Dr. Crockford wrote it)

    The main point of the article you didn't read:

    "The Chukchi Sea finally has a polar bear population estimate! According to survey results from 2016 only recently made public, about 2,937 bears (1,522-5,944) currently inhabit the region, making this the largest subpopulation in the Arctic."

    red bolding mine

    You have been caught making fallacious statements that I have corrected which you have ignored ever since, then you claim I made the headline when I didn't, then you try to make it appear that I lied when everything I posted was from someone else.

    You dislike this line I wrote, but offer nothing against it but whine:

    "Polar Bears doesn't seem to be bothered by low Arctic sea Ice that much after all, maybe it wasn't that critical in the first place for a reason warmists never seem to fathom."

    I backed up with evidence, which is why you are unhappy, because you can't dispute it.

    You haven't made a single supported statement, which means you have nothing useful here to offer.
     
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