New supercomputer technology to improve speed exponentially

[Jroc]

The US also has the biggest rewards for innovation. As long as that is the case, we can continue to do well.

Yep as long as we keep Obama and the libs from handcuffing our business and innovators with all these stupid regulations and mandates and crap. And they shouldn't have cut funding to NASA, thats one agency in government we should be funding, Just think about...we won't even be able to send people into earth's orbit after this next shuttle mission. Obama's a joke, The sooner we get rid of that idiot the better.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

This is the deal

New Breakthroughs In Diode Technology Can Take Electronics Far Beyond Silicon | Popular Science

 

[Jroc]

What does any of this have to do with them having more people? Are you saying the Chinese government is involved in a conspiracy to kill off its own population? If so, perhaps you should start a thread about it.

There are no women for Chinese men, they'll have to leave the country to find them. It's no secret, No conspiracy, it Chinese Law



China's One Child Policy
One Child Policy in China Designed to Limit Population Growth


Jun 14 2010
China has proclaimed that it will continue its one child policy, which limits couples to having one child, through the 2006-2010 five year planning period.
China's one child policy was established by Chinese leader Deng Xiaoping in 1979 to limit communist China's population growth. Although designated a "temporary measure," it continues a quarter-century after its establishment. The policy limits couples to one child. Fines, pressures to abort a pregnancy, and even forced sterilization accompanied second or subsequent pregnancies.

It is not an all-encompassing rule because it has always been restricted to ethnic Han Chinese living in urban areas. Citizens living in rural areas and minorities living in China are not subject to the law. However, the rule has been estimated to have reduced population growth in the country of 1.3 billion by as much as 300 million people over its first twenty years.

This rule has caused a disdain for female infants; abortion, neglect, abandonment, and even infanticide have been known to occur to female infants. The result of such Draconian family planning has resulted in the disparate ratio of 114 males for every 100 females among babies from birth through children four years of age. Normally, 105 males are naturally born for every 100 females.


Recent Effects of the One Child Law
Now that millions of sibling-less people in China are now young adults in or nearing their child-bearing years, a special provision allows millions of couples to have two children legally. If a couple is composed of two people without siblings, then they may have two children of their own, thus preventing too dramatic of a population decrease.
Although IUDs, sterilization, and abortion (legal in China) are China's most popular forms of birth control, over the past few years, China has provided more education and support for alternative birth control methods.

China One Child Policy - Overview of the One Child Policy in China

 

[rdean]

Actually, there are a lot of "if's" there.

There are?

You do understand basic math, don't you? Even if we got together with every advanced nation and trained everyone as an engineer China would still be able to train more engineers than we do. They have a natural resource we cannot match, more people than we have.

You have proven that you do not understand basic math. One is not a lot, and 63 is not a few.



Does that in any way change the fact they there are more China is the most populous nation on Earth? Or that China has more manpower than the US and Europe combined?



I do not care. I did not claim that their people were going into engineering, Old Rocks did. All I pointed out was that they can always beat us, because they have more raw material than we do.



How many engineers in the US actually work in their field?



You are entirely correct, which is why Bush never raised the budget of the DOE by 70% between 2002 and 2004.

Third, inventions and new technologies are moved to China because they have no safety regulations and their people, under a communist regime, work 60 to 70 hours a week for 51 cents an hour. Can anyone guess why the Republican leadership wants to get rid of the minimum wage?

What does any of this have to do with them having more people? Are you saying the Chinese government is involved in a conspiracy to kill off its own population? If so, perhaps you should start a thread about it.

If you want a good example of the Republican Party, read what right wingers on this thread say. They add nothing of any substance and have no clue. The reason they are able to make fun of those that have at least a small understanding of technology, is because they have none. I suspect several believe magic is involved in the way their computers work.

I do not care about politicians in either party, because they are all, repeat all, liars. It is a part of being a politician.

Just curious. What do you have against using links to prove some of your assertions?

 

[rdean]

The Chinese give me a break they can’t even make drywall or toys without them being toxic. Some of you people give the Chinese too much credit. They are sooo far behind in the high tech fields they couldn't even launch a rocket till that idiot Bill Clinton ok’d the technology transfer to them.


United States The World's Number One Innovator?
BY Saabira ChaudhuriWed Jan 7, 2009


The Global Innovation Index, a ranking of 130 countries released yesterday, calls the US the world's number one innovator. The index was created by Soumitra Dutta, a professor at French business school INSEAD, along with New Delhi based non-profit organization The Confederation of Indian Industry.

The global index ranks Germany second, Sweden third, the UK fourth and Singapore fifth. Contrary to what some might expect, China comes in relatively low at number 37, while India stands at number 41.

The ranking is based on indices such as the number of internet users in a nation, the ease of doing business and the stability of banks (that score alone makes surprising that the U.S. tops the list). Every factor is then categorized as either an input or an output, with inputs indicating how conducive countries are to stimulating innovation (these include institutions and policies, human capacity, infrastructure, technological sophistication, business markets and capital). The outputs indicate how effectively countries translate innovation into benefits - like knowledge, competitiveness and wealth.

Everyone agrees that innovation is crucial for the US to dig itself out of the current economic hole. However, innovation is a largely subjective concept. And lately the US is coming under internal criticism for its lack of emphasis on innovation. Last year, Silicon Valley entrepreneur and former CTO of Cisco, Judy Estrin, stated that the US is suffering from "a national innovation deficit." And Vinton Cerf, the chief Internet evangelist at Google said, "There is a remarkable telescoping in of vision and an unwillingness to make long-term bets." In 2005, the National Academies published a report showing that the US government's financing of research in the physical sciences was 45 percent less in 2004 than in 1976.

Do rankings such as the Global Innovation Index influence corporate investment decisions? Not much, says Jacob Koshy of Livemint. In India for instance, over the last few years, several large multinationals have made significant investments in research centers

Bill Clinton only opened communications and worked to set up distribution points.

Doesn't matter how much "innovation" from the US if all that "innovation" is moved to China. Eventually, they will be the "innovators". Isn't that obvious?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

What does any of this have to do with them having more people? Are you saying the Chinese government is involved in a conspiracy to kill off its own population? If so, perhaps you should start a thread about it.

There are no women for Chinese men, they'll have to leave the country to find them. It's no secret, No conspiracy, it Chinese Law



China's One Child Policy
One Child Policy in China Designed to Limit Population Growth


Jun 14 2010
China has proclaimed that it will continue its one child policy, which limits couples to having one child, through the 2006-2010 five year planning period.
China's one child policy was established by Chinese leader Deng Xiaoping in 1979 to limit communist China's population growth. Although designated a "temporary measure," it continues a quarter-century after its establishment. The policy limits couples to one child. Fines, pressures to abort a pregnancy, and even forced sterilization accompanied second or subsequent pregnancies.

It is not an all-encompassing rule because it has always been restricted to ethnic Han Chinese living in urban areas. Citizens living in rural areas and minorities living in China are not subject to the law. However, the rule has been estimated to have reduced population growth in the country of 1.3 billion by as much as 300 million people over its first twenty years.

This rule has caused a disdain for female infants; abortion, neglect, abandonment, and even infanticide have been known to occur to female infants. The result of such Draconian family planning has resulted in the disparate ratio of 114 males for every 100 females among babies from birth through children four years of age. Normally, 105 males are naturally born for every 100 females.


Recent Effects of the One Child Law
Now that millions of sibling-less people in China are now young adults in or nearing their child-bearing years, a special provision allows millions of couples to have two children legally. If a couple is composed of two people without siblings, then they may have two children of their own, thus preventing too dramatic of a population decrease.
Although IUDs, sterilization, and abortion (legal in China) are China's most popular forms of birth control, over the past few years, China has provided more education and support for alternative birth control methods.

China One Child Policy - Overview of the One Child Policy in China

Which might explain why they modified the policy.

Just saying.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Actually, there are a lot of "if's" there.

There are?



You have proven that you do not understand basic math. One is not a lot, and 63 is not a few.



Does that in any way change the fact they there are more China is the most populous nation on Earth? Or that China has more manpower than the US and Europe combined?



I do not care. I did not claim that their people were going into engineering, Old Rocks did. All I pointed out was that they can always beat us, because they have more raw material than we do.



How many engineers in the US actually work in their field?



You are entirely correct, which is why Bush never raised the budget of the DOE by 70% between 2002 and 2004.



What does any of this have to do with them having more people? Are you saying the Chinese government is involved in a conspiracy to kill off its own population? If so, perhaps you should start a thread about it.

If you want a good example of the Republican Party, read what right wingers on this thread say. They add nothing of any substance and have no clue. The reason they are able to make fun of those that have at least a small understanding of technology, is because they have none. I suspect several believe magic is involved in the way their computers work.

I do not care about politicians in either party, because they are all, repeat all, liars. It is a part of being a politician.

Just curious. What do you have against using links to prove some of your assertions?

Which "assertions" would you like links to?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

The Chinese give me a break they can’t even make drywall or toys without them being toxic. Some of you people give the Chinese too much credit. They are sooo far behind in the high tech fields they couldn't even launch a rocket till that idiot Bill Clinton ok’d the technology transfer to them.


United States The World's Number One Innovator?
BY Saabira ChaudhuriWed Jan 7, 2009


The Global Innovation Index, a ranking of 130 countries released yesterday, calls the US the world's number one innovator. The index was created by Soumitra Dutta, a professor at French business school INSEAD, along with New Delhi based non-profit organization The Confederation of Indian Industry.

The global index ranks Germany second, Sweden third, the UK fourth and Singapore fifth. Contrary to what some might expect, China comes in relatively low at number 37, while India stands at number 41.

The ranking is based on indices such as the number of internet users in a nation, the ease of doing business and the stability of banks (that score alone makes surprising that the U.S. tops the list). Every factor is then categorized as either an input or an output, with inputs indicating how conducive countries are to stimulating innovation (these include institutions and policies, human capacity, infrastructure, technological sophistication, business markets and capital). The outputs indicate how effectively countries translate innovation into benefits - like knowledge, competitiveness and wealth.

Everyone agrees that innovation is crucial for the US to dig itself out of the current economic hole. However, innovation is a largely subjective concept. And lately the US is coming under internal criticism for its lack of emphasis on innovation. Last year, Silicon Valley entrepreneur and former CTO of Cisco, Judy Estrin, stated that the US is suffering from "a national innovation deficit." And Vinton Cerf, the chief Internet evangelist at Google said, "There is a remarkable telescoping in of vision and an unwillingness to make long-term bets." In 2005, the National Academies published a report showing that the US government's financing of research in the physical sciences was 45 percent less in 2004 than in 1976.

Do rankings such as the Global Innovation Index influence corporate investment decisions? Not much, says Jacob Koshy of Livemint. In India for instance, over the last few years, several large multinationals have made significant investments in research centers

Bill Clinton only opened communications and worked to set up distribution points.

Doesn't matter how much "innovation" from the US if all that "innovation" is moved to China. Eventually, they will be the "innovators". Isn't that obvious?

 

[blu]

this project will die if the gop gets their wet dream of defunding NSF

 

[Jroc]

Bill Clinton only opened communications and worked to set up distribution points.

Really?...


this is a long article so heres is a couple of Paragraphs.. Read the whole thing and learn something...Some of you people kill me



On Jan. 26, 1995, approximately 52 seconds into flight, a Chinese LM-2E carrying the Hughes APSTAR II communications satellite failed. This was the LM-2E's second failure. The first failure of the LM-2E in December 1992 involved an attempted launch of the Hughes OPTUS B-2 commercial communications satellite.

"Respondents decided to form and direct a launch failure investigation beginning in January 1995 and continuing throughout much of that year. The investigation involved the formation of several groups of leading technical experts from China and the U.S., which throughout the investigation engaged in an extensive exchange of technical data and analysis, producing a wide range of unauthorized technology transfers," noted the State Department charge document.


Clinton Overrules Secretary of State

The alleged improper export by Hughes of satellite technology was cited as a key reason when Clinton's secretary of state, Warren Christopher, rejected a plan to give the Commerce Department full authority to control satellite exports.

According to a Sept. 22, 1995, memorandum, Christopher rejected plans to give Commerce the authority to approve satellite exports after an interagency study noted that "significant" military and intelligence capabilities could be lost.

The memorandum stated the Pentagon and U.S. intelligence agencies strongly opposed the policy change because Hughes exported two satellites with sensitive cryptographic technology without first getting a State Department munitions license. Cryptographic technology is used to scramble communications sent to satellites to prevent unauthorized access.

President Clinton, who transferred the power to regulate sensitive satellites to Commerce, under Commerce Secretary Ron Brown, ultimately overruled Christopher.

Clinton's transfer allowed the Chinese army to acquire advanced U.S. technology for military purposes. Hughes satellites currently provide the Chinese army with secure communications that are invulnerable to earth combat and highly accurate all-weather navigation for strike bombers and missiles.
Clinton Legacy – A New Arms Race

The satellite and missile technology obtained from Hughes by the Chinese army is critical for the design and manufacture of missile nose cones and electronic missile control systems. The technology clearly helped the Chinese army field a new generation of ICBMS, including the Dong Feng 31 missile, which can drop three nuclear warheads on any city in the U.S.

The success of Shen is a story of missiles, politics and greed. Gen. Shen succeeded in using Hughes and President Clinton as valuable tools to obtain weapons that are now pointed at the United States.






Clinton and Chinese Missiles

 

[Jroc]

this project will die if the gop gets their wet dream of defunding NSF

Obama and the Dems waste tax payer money on that stupid global warming hoax is this you want our money to be spent? That idiot Obama even wants NASA to waste thier time on this crap... Of course thats after the mulism feel good program

 

[blu]

this project will die if the gop gets their wet dream of defunding NSF

Obama and the Dems waste tax payer money on that stupid global warming hoax is this you want our money to be spent? That idiot Obama even wants NASA to waste thier time on this crap... Of course thats after the mulism feel good program

nice deflection idiot

 

[Quantum Windbag]

this project will die if the gop gets their wet dream of defunding NSF

How do you figure that?

If you had bothered to read my OP you would have noticed that funding for this comes from DARPA, not NSF.

 

[Trajan]

If you want a good example of the Republican Party, read what right wingers on this thread say. They add nothing of any substance and have no clue. The reason they are able to make fun of those that have at least a small understanding of technology, is because they have none. I suspect several believe magic is involved in the way their computers work.

hey mr. stawman, when you start reading threads and interpreting them correctly call me, they don't have dials on phones anymore so get someone to how you show to 'dial' now....

 

[Trajan]

I can assure all of you, funding for DOE's R&D labs at the 5 main national laboratory's; Brookhaven, Los Alamos, Argonne, Oakridge and Berkeley (of the 16 National labs) is on high burn, Bush funded them to an extent but, Obama put them on steroids and I give him full and complete credit for doing so.

They have grants and projects that have been funded with 10 year windows....encompassing 3 main themes; energy (renewables, battey tech.), computing and nanotechnology.

 

[Old Rocks]

Central Eastern Oregon was the home of a cowboy and all round character, a very wise one, named Rueb Long. One of the wisest things that he said was " Even when it cost too much, research is a bargain".

 

[rdean]

Bill Clinton only opened communications and worked to set up distribution points.

Really?...


this is a long article so heres is a couple of Paragraphs.. Read the whole thing and learn something...Some of you people kill me



On Jan. 26, 1995, approximately 52 seconds into flight, a Chinese LM-2E carrying the Hughes APSTAR II communications satellite failed. This was the LM-2E's second failure. The first failure of the LM-2E in December 1992 involved an attempted launch of the Hughes OPTUS B-2 commercial communications satellite.

"Respondents decided to form and direct a launch failure investigation beginning in January 1995 and continuing throughout much of that year. The investigation involved the formation of several groups of leading technical experts from China and the U.S., which throughout the investigation engaged in an extensive exchange of technical data and analysis, producing a wide range of unauthorized technology transfers," noted the State Department charge document.


Clinton Overrules Secretary of State

The alleged improper export by Hughes of satellite technology was cited as a key reason when Clinton's secretary of state, Warren Christopher, rejected a plan to give the Commerce Department full authority to control satellite exports.

According to a Sept. 22, 1995, memorandum, Christopher rejected plans to give Commerce the authority to approve satellite exports after an interagency study noted that "significant" military and intelligence capabilities could be lost.

The memorandum stated the Pentagon and U.S. intelligence agencies strongly opposed the policy change because Hughes exported two satellites with sensitive cryptographic technology without first getting a State Department munitions license. Cryptographic technology is used to scramble communications sent to satellites to prevent unauthorized access.

President Clinton, who transferred the power to regulate sensitive satellites to Commerce, under Commerce Secretary Ron Brown, ultimately overruled Christopher.

Clinton's transfer allowed the Chinese army to acquire advanced U.S. technology for military purposes. Hughes satellites currently provide the Chinese army with secure communications that are invulnerable to earth combat and highly accurate all-weather navigation for strike bombers and missiles.
Clinton Legacy – A New Arms Race

The satellite and missile technology obtained from Hughes by the Chinese army is critical for the design and manufacture of missile nose cones and electronic missile control systems. The technology clearly helped the Chinese army field a new generation of ICBMS, including the Dong Feng 31 missile, which can drop three nuclear warheads on any city in the U.S.

The success of Shen is a story of missiles, politics and greed. Gen. Shen succeeded in using Hughes and President Clinton as valuable tools to obtain weapons that are now pointed at the United States.






Clinton and Chinese Missiles

FROM YOUR ARTICLE:

Chinese Army Gets U.S. Missile Technology for Money

A newly released document from the U.S. State Department reveals that the most successful Chinese espionage operation in recent history occurred during the Clinton administration.

The document accuses Hughes Space and Communications Company of violating U.S. national security 123 times by knowingly sending detailed missile and space technology directly to the Chinese army.

----------------------------------------

They don't need espionage now. Republicans have been moving that technology to China to make a buck. Was that the point to your article? I would think you would be embarrassed.

 

[rdean]

There are?



You have proven that you do not understand basic math. One is not a lot, and 63 is not a few.



Does that in any way change the fact they there are more China is the most populous nation on Earth? Or that China has more manpower than the US and Europe combined?



I do not care. I did not claim that their people were going into engineering, Old Rocks did. All I pointed out was that they can always beat us, because they have more raw material than we do.



How many engineers in the US actually work in their field?



You are entirely correct, which is why Bush never raised the budget of the DOE by 70% between 2002 and 2004.



What does any of this have to do with them having more people? Are you saying the Chinese government is involved in a conspiracy to kill off its own population? If so, perhaps you should start a thread about it.



I do not care about politicians in either party, because they are all, repeat all, liars. It is a part of being a politician.

Just curious. What do you have against using links to prove some of your assertions?

Which "assertions" would you like links to?

All of them.

 

[rdean]

What does any of this have to do with them having more people? Are you saying the Chinese government is involved in a conspiracy to kill off its own population? If so, perhaps you should start a thread about it.

There are no women for Chinese men, they'll have to leave the country to find them. It's no secret, No conspiracy, it Chinese Law



China's One Child Policy
One Child Policy in China Designed to Limit Population Growth


Jun 14 2010
China has proclaimed that it will continue its one child policy, which limits couples to having one child, through the 2006-2010 five year planning period.
China's one child policy was established by Chinese leader Deng Xiaoping in 1979 to limit communist China's population growth. Although designated a "temporary measure," it continues a quarter-century after its establishment. The policy limits couples to one child. Fines, pressures to abort a pregnancy, and even forced sterilization accompanied second or subsequent pregnancies.

It is not an all-encompassing rule because it has always been restricted to ethnic Han Chinese living in urban areas. Citizens living in rural areas and minorities living in China are not subject to the law. However, the rule has been estimated to have reduced population growth in the country of 1.3 billion by as much as 300 million people over its first twenty years.

This rule has caused a disdain for female infants; abortion, neglect, abandonment, and even infanticide have been known to occur to female infants. The result of such Draconian family planning has resulted in the disparate ratio of 114 males for every 100 females among babies from birth through children four years of age. Normally, 105 males are naturally born for every 100 females.


Recent Effects of the One Child Law
Now that millions of sibling-less people in China are now young adults in or nearing their child-bearing years, a special provision allows millions of couples to have two children legally. If a couple is composed of two people without siblings, then they may have two children of their own, thus preventing too dramatic of a population decrease.
Although IUDs, sterilization, and abortion (legal in China) are China's most popular forms of birth control, over the past few years, China has provided more education and support for alternative birth control methods.

China One Child Policy - Overview of the One Child Policy in China

Which might explain why they modified the policy.

Just saying.

One-child policy in China will not be relaxed

One-child policy: The China Daily newspaper on Monday quoted the head of the National Population and Family Planning Commission as saying there were no plans to change the policy anytime soon.

One-child policy in China will not be relaxed - CSMonitor.com

------------------------------------------------

Prove the policy was modified.

Just saying.

 

[rdean]

What does any of this have to do with them having more people? Are you saying the Chinese government is involved in a conspiracy to kill off its own population? If so, perhaps you should start a thread about it.

There are no women for Chinese men, they'll have to leave the country to find them. It's no secret, No conspiracy, it Chinese Law



China's One Child Policy
One Child Policy in China Designed to Limit Population Growth


Jun 14 2010
China has proclaimed that it will continue its one child policy, which limits couples to having one child, through the 2006-2010 five year planning period.
China's one child policy was established by Chinese leader Deng Xiaoping in 1979 to limit communist China's population growth. Although designated a "temporary measure," it continues a quarter-century after its establishment. The policy limits couples to one child. Fines, pressures to abort a pregnancy, and even forced sterilization accompanied second or subsequent pregnancies.

It is not an all-encompassing rule because it has always been restricted to ethnic Han Chinese living in urban areas. Citizens living in rural areas and minorities living in China are not subject to the law. However, the rule has been estimated to have reduced population growth in the country of 1.3 billion by as much as 300 million people over its first twenty years.

This rule has caused a disdain for female infants; abortion, neglect, abandonment, and even infanticide have been known to occur to female infants. The result of such Draconian family planning has resulted in the disparate ratio of 114 males for every 100 females among babies from birth through children four years of age. Normally, 105 males are naturally born for every 100 females.


Recent Effects of the One Child Law
Now that millions of sibling-less people in China are now young adults in or nearing their child-bearing years, a special provision allows millions of couples to have two children legally. If a couple is composed of two people without siblings, then they may have two children of their own, thus preventing too dramatic of a population decrease.
Although IUDs, sterilization, and abortion (legal in China) are China's most popular forms of birth control, over the past few years, China has provided more education and support for alternative birth control methods.

China One Child Policy - Overview of the One Child Policy in China

Which might explain why they modified the policy.

Just saying.

If a couple is composed of two people without siblings, then they may have two children of their own, thus preventing too dramatic of a population decrease.

Yea, that's really going to make a difference. A real policy changer.