New Study Contradicts Man-made warming

[Chris]

CO2 causes the earth to retain heat.

We have increased CO2 by 40% in the last 200 years.

CO2 is at the highest level in over 600,000 years.

We continue to add billions of tons of CO2 to the atmosphere every year.

You cannot deny any of this. All you can do is post silly insults.

 

[elvis]

CO2 causes the earth to retain heat.

We have increased CO2 by 40% in the last 200 years.

CO2 is at the highest level in over 600,000 years.

We continue to add billions of tons of CO2 to the atmosphere every year.

You cannot deny any of this. All you can do is post silly insults.

Are you going to tell Al on us?

 

[Sinatra]

Fascinating study from the University of Milwaukee which appears to heavily contradict man as a significant factor in determining the earth's climate - in fact, the study points to a shift from warming to cooling starting around the year 2000. This should have been far bigger news - but so far, the attention has been minimal by the mainstream media. Go figure...

Link to news articles on the study, dubbed "synchronized chaos" :

Climate Change - Who's Fault? Or No-Fault? - Digital Journal: Your News Network


UW-Milwaukee Study Could Realign Climate Change Theory - Milwaukee Weather News Story - WISN Milwaukee

Once again, to the detractors, we shall post the actual study that inspired this thread.

Read it and learn from it.

 

[Chris]

Learn what? That we are in the down part of the sun cycle?

The sun is the major driving force of the climate, but it is not the only force.

Increasing atmospheric CO2 by 40% causes the earth to warm, but this effect works within the context of what the sun is doing.

 

[Old Rocks]

Fascinating study from the University of Milwaukee which appears to heavily contradict man as a significant factor in determining the earth's climate - in fact, the study points to a shift from warming to cooling starting around the year 2000. This should have been far bigger news - but so far, the attention has been minimal by the mainstream media. Go figure...

Link to news articles on the study, dubbed "synchronized chaos" :

Climate Change - Who's Fault? Or No-Fault? - Digital Journal: Your News Network


UW-Milwaukee Study Could Realign Climate Change Theory - Milwaukee Weather News Story - WISN Milwaukee

Once again, to the detractors, we shall post the actual study that inspired this thread.

Read it and learn from it.

OK the fellow made some predictions. And other, more noted scientists in the field of climatology have made predictions that are just the opposite of what this fellow predicted. We shall see who is correct.

 

[raceright]

Fascinating study from the University of Milwaukee which appears to heavily contradict man as a significant factor in determining the earth's climate - in fact, the study points to a shift from warming to cooling starting around the year 2000. This should have been far bigger news - but so far, the attention has been minimal by the mainstream media. Go figure...

Link to news articles on the study, dubbed "synchronized chaos" :

Climate Change - Who's Fault? Or No-Fault? - Digital Journal: Your News Network


UW-Milwaukee Study Could Realign Climate Change Theory - Milwaukee Weather News Story - WISN Milwaukee

Once again, to the detractors, we shall post the actual study that inspired this thread.

Read it and learn from it.

OK the fellow made some predictions. And other, more noted scientists in the field of climatology have made predictions that are just the opposite of what this fellow predicted. We shall see who is correct.

My Point exactly and many others you do not use everyones money
(gazillions world wide) when there are so many opposite predictions
and you are waiting to see who is correct do this with donations
volunteers and so on but not run a goverment around it

No Black cars in California next it will be people (Opps he might be a racist)

 

[Sinatra]

Once again, to the detractors, we shall post the actual study that inspired this thread.

Read it and learn from it.

OK the fellow made some predictions. And other, more noted scientists in the field of climatology have made predictions that are just the opposite of what this fellow predicted. We shall see who is correct.

My Point exactly and many others you do not use everyones money
(gazillions world wide) when there are so many opposite predictions
and you are waiting to see who is correct do this with donations
volunteers and so on but not run a goverment around it

No Black cars in California next it will be people (Opps he might be a racist)

EXACTLY - this global warming hyseria is getting to the point of an all out attack on the very premise of human freedom! No black cars as a means of helping climate change??? Good lord people - the degree of absurdity on that proposal is astounding to the point of utter disbelief.

Chris in his above post admitted the sun plays a far greater role in climate than any other factor. Yet another post in this thread incorrectly asserted CO2 as the primary greenhouse gas when it is not even close to being - water vapor is far and away the dominant greenhouse gas. There are wide generalizations made on this subject that "all scientists agree" when that is far from the truth - there is much disagreement, and the for years that data has supported the idea that the earth is in fact cooling a bit - wiping out the moderate warming that took place over the last decade prior.

Someone in here keeps asking the very appropriate question - what is the earth's optimal temperature? Well? That is a FANTASTIC question that cuts to the core of this issue. The global warming junat makes a highly presumptive assertion that the optimum temperature is some average based upon the the last 140-odd years of temperature data. Of course at the outset of that particular data arc, the earth was undergoing a cold spell - which then repeated for a couple decades in the 1960s and 1970s - though this cooling was less than what was seen the prior century. We had two primary warming cycles in the 1930s-1940's and again in the mid-1980s thru about 2000. Hansen has been proven to lower historical temperatures while raising more recent ones in order to show his persistent upward temperature trends, though he fails to utilize the far more accurate satallite data in favor of surface temperature readings that are far more likely to be flawed - such as monitors sitting near an airport runway.

We now have the UN preparing Draconian proposals that hope to greatly increase governmental controls over all things energy - including in-house monitoring of individual household energy useage. We have states utilizing GPS to monitor your auto consumption and hoping to implement a useage tax - above and beyond the gasoline tax you already pay at the pump. These same governments who are pushing for more efficient autos, are now complaining that they are not seeing as much gas tax revenue because people are using less gas.

You see folks, this global warming junta has been a sham - it is a power grab, as well as a Go-Green ponzi scheme that is making multi millionaires out of the likes of Al Gore and his ilk. It is also a tool by which lesser nations can attempt to hamper the economic dominance of the United States.

Global Warming has been speculative science at best, and outright manipulation of data to force a pre-determined outcome at worst. It will go down as the single largest attempted scam in the history of modern humanity.

 

[Chris]

Their is nothing speculative about global warming.

CO2 causes the earth to warm, and every year we add billions of tons of CO2 to the atmosphere.

 

[elvis]

Their is nothing speculative about global warming.

CO2 causes the earth to warm, and every year we add billions of tons of CO2 to the atmosphere.

I'm convinced that's all you know how to say.

 

[Sinatra]

Their is nothing speculative about global warming.

CO2 causes the earth to warm, and every year we add billions of tons of CO2 to the atmosphere.

Then you better tell the earth to stop adding all that CO2 - that is, unless the earth is aware that we would be better off with a slightly warmer climate? Hmmm...

Falsified History of CO2

And look at this!

http://www.biokurs.de/eike/daten/leiden26607/leiden14e.htm

"CO2 fluctuates with climate" ...

 

[Old Rocks]

No attribution for the bullshit numbers. Here is a site from the American Institute of Physics. Real science done by real scientists, not lying bullshitters like in the two sites that you posted.

The Carbon Dioxide Greenhouse Effect

 

[elvis]

No attribution for the bullshit numbers. Here is a site from the American Institute of Physics. Real science done by real scientists, not lying bullshitters like in the two sites that you posted.

The Carbon Dioxide Greenhouse Effect

The world is flat. Did bolding the letters make that any more true?

 

[Old Rocks]

No attribution for the bullshit numbers. Here is a site from the American Institute of Physics. Real science done by real scientists, not lying bullshitters like in the two sites that you posted.

The Carbon Dioxide Greenhouse Effect

The world is flat. Did bolding the letters make that any more true?

You give numbers that contradict the totality of all that has been published in the field of atmospheric chemistry, you better damned well have some evidence. None was presented.

 

[Sinatra]

No attribution for the bullshit numbers. Here is a site from the American Institute of Physics. Real science done by real scientists, not lying bullshitters like in the two sites that you posted.

The Carbon Dioxide Greenhouse Effect

You have gone from making the completely incorrect statement that CO2 was the primary greenhouse gas to now exhibiting the seeming inability to recognize two nobel prize winners in the very information posted.

You then follow that inability up with repeated uses of profanity.

Your credibility on this subject, already at a lowpoint, appears to be seeking even lower ground.

Yikes.

http://www.biokurs.de/eike/daten/leiden26607/menuee.htm

http://www.biokurs.de/eike/daten/leiden26607/leiden14e.htm

 

[k2skier]

99 percent of Climatologist do NOT support man made global warming, that is a bald faced lie. In fact less then 50 percent of all scientists support man made global warming. I believe the number is around 42 percent as I recall from a report one of you idiots posted a while back.

Outright lie.

STATS: Climate Scientists Agree on Warming, Disagree on Dangers, and Don’t Trust the Media’s Coverage of Climate Change

Over eight out of ten American climate scientists believe that human activity contributes to global warming, according to a new survey released by the Statistical Assessment Service (STATS) at George Mason University. The researchers also report that belief in human-induced warming has more than doubled since the last major survey of American climate scientists in 1991. However, the survey finds that scientists are still debating the dynamics and dangers of global warming, and only three percent trust newspaper or television coverage of climate change.

 

[k2skier]

Surveyed scientists agree global warming is real - CNN.com

(CNN) -- Human-induced global warming is real, according to a recent U.S. survey based on the opinions of 3,146 scientists. However there remains divisions between climatologists and scientists from other areas of earth sciences as to the extent of human responsibility

 

[Sinatra]

No attribution for the bullshit numbers. Here is a site from the American Institute of Physics. Real science done by real scientists, not lying bullshitters like in the two sites that you posted.

The Carbon Dioxide Greenhouse Effect

You have gone from making the completely incorrect statement that CO2 was the primary greenhouse gas to now exhibiting the seeming inability to recognize two nobel prize winners in the very information posted.

You then follow that inability up with repeated uses of profanity.

Your credibility on this subject, already at a lowpoint, appears to be seeking even lower ground.

Yikes.

Menue CO2

Summary

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[Old Rocks]

Still the same old arguement. A few wingnuts come out with crap and that is presented as equal to what all the Scientific Societies, all the National Academies of Science, and all the major Universities state on a subject.

Sorry boys, crap is crap, and that epitomizes your arguements and sources.

 

[elvis]

Still the same old arguement. A few wingnuts come out with crap and that is presented as equal to what all the Scientific Societies, all the National Academies of Science, and all the major Universities state on a subject.

Sorry boys, crap is crap, and that epitomizes your arguements and sources.

yup. anything that doesn't agree with the Left is crap.

 

[KittenKoder]

Still the same old arguement. A few wingnuts come out with crap and that is presented as equal to what all the Scientific Societies, all the National Academies of Science, and all the major Universities state on a subject.

Sorry boys, crap is crap, and that epitomizes your arguements and sources.

One would think that such an intelligent person could spell correctly ...

You claim all your scientists are more correct ... because they belong to big "societies", yet that all the fringe scientists who don't care about making friends and being popular are less credible. Any good scientist won't belong to the big groups at all, ever. It's demeaning to science as a whole to make it a pop contest. No wonder American False Gods is such a popular show ...