New paper finds Arctic was up to 12.6°C warmer than today

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    This paper just published in Palaeogeography, Palaeoclimatology, Palaeoecology represents a reconstruction of temperatures in the vicinity of Bylot Island in the Canadian arctic and finds that during the Pleistocene epoch, the average temperature in that part of the world during that time period was about 11.4 decrees C warmer than today's temperatures.

    ScienceDirect.com - Palaeogeography, Palaeoclimatology, Palaeoecology - Annually resolved temperature reconstructions from a late Pliocene?early Pleistocene polar forest on Bylot Island, Canada

    And before you cut and paste wonks start singing your chorus about how different the world was during that time, here is some material for you on the Pleistocene epoch from one of your trusted sources. It is easily understood (lots of pretty pictures) and should put your mind to rest and show you that the world wasn't so much different then than it is today.

    BBC Nature - Pliocene epoch videos, news and facts

    As you can see, the world then, was much like the world today except it wasn't cold. Contrary to the present claims being made by the chicken littles of the world, a small temperature change will not end life on earth as we know it. Life seems to have been thriving during that period before the ice age came and wrecked the good life for everyone.

    It does make one wonder why you warmers are so terrified of getting out of the present ice age and back to a global temperature that is actually good for life on earth and more importantly what would ever give you the idea that we could possibly have anything to do with, or in any way delay the earth going back to its more normal state. For most of earth's history with the exception of a few ice ages, the earth has been a good deal warmer than the present and life has thrived during those warm periods.
     
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    I'm not even going to listen to a FOOL.

    Here is the best site I know:

    Arctic Sea Ice

    Good luck about being an idiot!
     
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    You think the Pleistocene epoch never happened? You think the world has always existed in an ice age of one depth or another?

    And again, don't worry about the name calling....it is a well known and understood psychological defense. It represents a magical attack against someone to whom you feel inferior. No offense taken....in fact, folks like you and rocks, and rolling thunder actually flatter us skeptics a bit with the constance and vehemence of your name calling.
     
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    If the present rapid warming were stretched out over a few thousand years, it would not be a problem. However, rapid warming or cooling in a very short period in a world with 7 billion people in it does represent a problem. A problem, as we are seeing right now, with agriculture, and a problem with infrastructure that is too close to sea level.

    As for warmer periods in the past, none of this existed, and when the warming and cooling occurred slowly, no problem, when it occurred rapidly, there were extinction periods.
     
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    A few things to consider
    1# The earths axisial tilt was more towards the poles
    2# the equator was mostly cooler then today(James Hansen)
     
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    And at that time, the isthmus of Panama had not completely closed. So there was a differant ocean circulation pattern.
     
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    There is no present rapid warming. Your death grip on that bit of misinformation is sad to watch.
     
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    Check again. From the link I provided:

     
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    8 degree warming in a few thousand years

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