New paper finds Arctic was up to 12.6°C warmer than today

Discussion in 'Environment' started by SSDD, Jan 9, 2013.

  1. SSDD
    Offline

    SSDD Gold Member

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2012
    Messages:
    9,566
    Thanks Received:
    965
    Trophy Points:
    245
    Ratings:
    +3,672
    This paper just published in Palaeogeography, Palaeoclimatology, Palaeoecology represents a reconstruction of temperatures in the vicinity of Bylot Island in the Canadian arctic and finds that during the Pleistocene epoch, the average temperature in that part of the world during that time period was about 11.4 decrees C warmer than today's temperatures.

    ScienceDirect.com - Palaeogeography, Palaeoclimatology, Palaeoecology - Annually resolved temperature reconstructions from a late Pliocene?early Pleistocene polar forest on Bylot Island, Canada

    And before you cut and paste wonks start singing your chorus about how different the world was during that time, here is some material for you on the Pleistocene epoch from one of your trusted sources. It is easily understood (lots of pretty pictures) and should put your mind to rest and show you that the world wasn't so much different then than it is today.

    BBC Nature - Pliocene epoch videos, news and facts

    As you can see, the world then, was much like the world today except it wasn't cold. Contrary to the present claims being made by the chicken littles of the world, a small temperature change will not end life on earth as we know it. Life seems to have been thriving during that period before the ice age came and wrecked the good life for everyone.

    It does make one wonder why you warmers are so terrified of getting out of the present ice age and back to a global temperature that is actually good for life on earth and more importantly what would ever give you the idea that we could possibly have anything to do with, or in any way delay the earth going back to its more normal state. For most of earth's history with the exception of a few ice ages, the earth has been a good deal warmer than the present and life has thrived during those warm periods.
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
    Last edited: Jan 9, 2013
  2. skookerasbil
    Offline

    skookerasbil Gold Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2009
    Messages:
    26,180
    Thanks Received:
    3,143
    Trophy Points:
    290
    Location:
    Not the middle of nowhere
    Ratings:
    +7,813
    [​IMG]
     
  3. Dubya
    Offline

    Dubya Senior Member

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2012
    Messages:
    3,056
    Thanks Received:
    58
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Ratings:
    +59
    I'm not even going to listen to a FOOL.

    Here is the best site I know:

    Arctic Sea Ice

    Good luck about being an idiot!
     
  4. SSDD
    Offline

    SSDD Gold Member

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2012
    Messages:
    9,566
    Thanks Received:
    965
    Trophy Points:
    245
    Ratings:
    +3,672
    You think the Pleistocene epoch never happened? You think the world has always existed in an ice age of one depth or another?

    And again, don't worry about the name calling....it is a well known and understood psychological defense. It represents a magical attack against someone to whom you feel inferior. No offense taken....in fact, folks like you and rocks, and rolling thunder actually flatter us skeptics a bit with the constance and vehemence of your name calling.
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
  5. Old Rocks
    Offline

    Old Rocks Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2008
    Messages:
    51,499
    Thanks Received:
    6,122
    Trophy Points:
    1,840
    Location:
    Portland, Ore.
    Ratings:
    +13,433
    If the present rapid warming were stretched out over a few thousand years, it would not be a problem. However, rapid warming or cooling in a very short period in a world with 7 billion people in it does represent a problem. A problem, as we are seeing right now, with agriculture, and a problem with infrastructure that is too close to sea level.

    As for warmer periods in the past, none of this existed, and when the warming and cooling occurred slowly, no problem, when it occurred rapidly, there were extinction periods.
     
  6. ScienceRocks
    Online

    ScienceRocks Blue dog all the way!

    Joined:
    Mar 16, 2010
    Messages:
    54,834
    Thanks Received:
    5,300
    Trophy Points:
    1,885
    Location:
    The Good insane United states of America
    Ratings:
    +19,960
    A few things to consider
    1# The earths axisial tilt was more towards the poles
    2# the equator was mostly cooler then today(James Hansen)
     
  7. Old Rocks
    Offline

    Old Rocks Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2008
    Messages:
    51,499
    Thanks Received:
    6,122
    Trophy Points:
    1,840
    Location:
    Portland, Ore.
    Ratings:
    +13,433
    And at that time, the isthmus of Panama had not completely closed. So there was a differant ocean circulation pattern.
     
  8. SSDD
    Offline

    SSDD Gold Member

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2012
    Messages:
    9,566
    Thanks Received:
    965
    Trophy Points:
    245
    Ratings:
    +3,672
    There is no present rapid warming. Your death grip on that bit of misinformation is sad to watch.
     
  9. SSDD
    Offline

    SSDD Gold Member

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2012
    Messages:
    9,566
    Thanks Received:
    965
    Trophy Points:
    245
    Ratings:
    +3,672
    Check again. From the link I provided:

     
    Last edited: Jan 10, 2013
  10. CrusaderFrank
    Online

    CrusaderFrank Diamond Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2009
    Messages:
    85,926
    Thanks Received:
    15,759
    Trophy Points:
    2,210
    Ratings:
    +44,082
    8 degree warming in a few thousand years

    [​IMG]
     

Share This Page

Search tags for this page

94 million years ago

,

earth 14 million years ago