new new strain of HIV-thanks to our homosexual friends

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Interesting article about the entirely normal patterns of the homosexual community help to create new strains of HIV that develope into AIDS in 3 to 4 months and doesn't respond to treatment.Thanks for the effort boys , way to practice that safe single monogamas sex.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=azBO_AumTJhsBloomberg News





NYC Health Officials Find New, Virulent HIV Strain (Update7)

Feb. 11 (Bloomberg) -- New York City doctors have discovered a man with a previously unseen strain of HIV that is resistant to three of the four types of anti-viral drugs that combat the disease, and progresses from infection to full-blown AIDS in two or three months, the health department said.

``We've identified this strain of HIV that is difficult or impossible to treat and which appears to progress rapidly to AIDS,'' said New York City Health Commissioner Thomas Frieden. ``We have not seen a case like this before. It holds the potential for a very serious public health problem.''

The case was diagnosed in a New Yorker in his mid-40s who reported multiple male sex partners and unprotected anal sex -- often while using the drug crystal methamphetamine.

``It is likely there are others infected with this strain and this individual has infected others,'' Frieden said. The case is ``extremely concerning and a wake-up call,'' he said.

Antonio Urbina, medical director of HIV education and training at St. Vincent's Catholic Medical Center, site of one of Manhattan's largest AIDS clinics, said the patient's use of crystal methamphetamine shows that the drug ``continues to play a significant role in facilitating the transmission of HIV.'' The drug reduces peoples' inhibitions and their likelihood of using condoms or other forms of safe sex, he said.

`Alarming'

While drug resistance is increasingly common among patients who have been treated for HIV, cases of three-class antiretroviral-resistant HIV -- or 3-DCR HIV -- in newly diagnosed, previously untreated patients are extremely rare, and the combination of this pattern of drug resistance and rapid progression to AIDS may not have been seen previously, the health department said in a news release.
 
Just got done reading this article, and some of the posts to go along with it. I just loved the one poster, claiming that if gay marriage would be allowed, this wouldn't have happened. I don't get how marriage would even begin to stop this at all. You still have 2 gays having sex and possibly doing the drugs along with it, and since when has marriage stopped some from having relations outside the marriage. Not to mention, a whole bunch are already infected anyway.
 
Of course we'll get Nakey on here who will ignore the facts and say that AIDS is not an overwhelmingly gay disease.

Thanks alot queers. The world is indebted to your deviant lifestyle choice. :banana2:
 
Thinking about this since i posted the last post, its interesting. there is even a stronger reason to remain chaste now. Sounds like this strain could have people dead within a year. so its going to be alot more dangerous.

Not surprisingly there are alot of nutjobs already trying to say the President created this straing to get the homosexual population. Funny, they say they believe in evolution and then evolution happens and they blame it on the President. I dont think he has that much power.

Sadly enough this new strain could be alot more dangerous to the gay community. if they arent careful it could eliminate them completely. Course that may be why the conspiracy theorists are going nuts. they realize the threat but dont want to actually believe that their lifestyle is whats screwing them over. (No pun intended)

Just refrain from sex before marriage and only sleep with your wife afterwards. And stay away from drugs and you will never have to worry about this.
 
well the virus has mutated......and become more lethal......pray tht it remains a blood born virus and does not mutate to an airborn virus......the common cold that kills.... if you will
 
manu1959 said:
well the virus has mutated......and become more lethal......pray tht it remains a blood born virus and does not mutate to an airborn virus......the common cold that kills.... if you will
Pray it doesn't jump over into the heterosexual population like it has in Asia and Africa, if it does, the death toll will be in the millions.
 
janeeng said:
Just got done reading this article, and some of the posts to go along with it. I just loved the one poster, claiming that if gay marriage would be allowed, this wouldn't have happened. I don't get how marriage would even begin to stop this at all. You still have 2 gays having sex and possibly doing the drugs along with it, and since when has marriage stopped some from having relations outside the marriage. Not to mention, a whole bunch are already infected anyway.
That is the same argument that some used regarding priests and pedophilia. "If only the Church would allow priests to get married, this wouldn't happen" --- Baloney. It would happen just the same.

Anyway, some gays have stated that they would have "open" marriages, where they would be married and have sex with others. Kind of defeats the purpose, doesn't it?

People don't engage in promiscuous sex or pedophilia because they can't get married, in fact some people are married and engage in both or either one.
 
KarlMarx said:
That is the same argument that some used regarding priests and pedophilia. "If only the Church would allow priests to get married, this wouldn't happen" --- Baloney. It would happen just the same.

Anyway, some gays have stated that they would have "open" marriages, where they would be married and have sex with others. Kind of defeats the purpose, doesn't it?

People don't engage in promiscuous sex or pedophilia because they can't get married, in fact some people are married and engage in both or either one.

then they say they want equal rights...this line is BULLSHIT.

a straight man has no more a right to marry another MAN (straight or gay) as any gay man. same goes for women. homos have equal rights. if they want to marry someone, they can, as long as it's someone of the opposite sex.
 
KarlMarx said:
Pray it doesn't jump over into the heterosexual population like it has in Asia and Africa, if it does, the death toll will be in the millions.

I think this strain likely will. it will jump to anyone who isnt being chaste or doing drugs more than likely. same as the previous strain. people need to start being responsible for their actions.

Of course considering how fast this strain works it might end up killing all the people who get it before it has a chance to get wide spread.
 
KarlMarx said:
That is the same argument that some used regarding priests and pedophilia. "If only the Church would allow priests to get married, this wouldn't happen" --- Baloney. It would happen just the same.

I know this is kind of a side issue. but i think if they did allow priests to marry, then there would be more priests available and they would be able to crack down on any priests that molested children. but not being catholic it doesnt matter much to me what they do as long as those kids are alright. I agree though that just letting them marry in and of itself wont stop it.
 
fuzzykitten99 said:
then they say they want equal rights...this line is BULLSHIT.

a straight man has no more a right to marry another MAN (straight or gay) as any gay man. same goes for women. homos have equal rights. if they want to marry someone, they can, as long as it's someone of the opposite sex.

so called "equal" rights for them wouldnt end this problem anyway. its not going to keep them from being promiscious. they can refrain from promiscuity without getting married.
 
OCA said:
Of course we'll get Nakey on here who will ignore the facts and say that AIDS is not an overwhelmingly gay disease.

Thanks alot queers. The world is indebted to your deviant lifestyle choice. :banana2:

Ignore the facts that homosexuality doesn't spread AIDS, but unprotected sex and not screening seuxal partners does?

The fact of the matter is this: if vaginal and oral sex were as effective trasmitters of HIV/AIDS and other diseases, heterosexual sex would be JUST AS DANGEROUS as homosexual sex? Do you think the heterosexual community would suddenly change its ways and always use a condom and always test their partners and themselves before sex? No, no they wouldn't, because its human nature.

And mutating diseases...how are you going to blame the random mutation of a disease on the carrier of the mutated disease? That's nuts.

This is a public health crisis, and will be most effectively combated by providing more awareness funding, promoting testing and safe sex techniques, etc.. NOT sitting back and blaming the gays. But if you really cared about others, you'd realize this, not sit in front of your computer flaming gays for fun.
 
Avatar4321 said:
Of course considering how fast this strain works it might end up killing all the people who get it before it has a chance to get wide spread.

As bad as this sentiment is, its something to hope for, from a pragmatic standpoint; but if the incubation rate is 3-4 months for it becomes AIDS, I think that leaves a lot of time for it to spead =(
 
fuzzykitten99 said:
then they say they want equal rights...this line is BULLSHIT.

a straight man has no more a right to marry another MAN (straight or gay) as any gay man. same goes for women. homos have equal rights. if they want to marry someone, they can, as long as it's someone of the opposite sex.

A woman has the right to marry a man, but a man doesn't. That's a really odd way of looking at how the rights are unequal.

Not to mention that at this point some have the right to marry those whom they're sexually and romantically attracted to, and others do not. Those rights are also unequal.
 
nakedemperor said:
Ignore the facts that homosexuality doesn't spread AIDS, but unprotected sex and not screening seuxal partners does?

The fact of the matter is this: if vaginal and oral sex were as effective trasmitters of HIV/AIDS and other diseases, heterosexual sex would be JUST AS DANGEROUS as homosexual sex? Do you think the heterosexual community would suddenly change its ways and always use a condom and always test their partners and themselves before sex? No, no they wouldn't, because its human nature.

And mutating diseases...how are you going to blame the random mutation of a disease on the carrier of the mutated disease? That's nuts.

This is a public health crisis, and will be most effectively combated by providing more awareness funding, promoting testing and safe sex techniques, etc.. NOT sitting back and blaming the gays. But if you really cared about others, you'd realize this, not sit in front of your computer flaming gays for fun.

The fact of the matter is, that gay and bisexual men as a group have a larger number of sex partners than heterosexuals on average. THAT is why AIDS is a gay disease in this country. According to the CDC, most people who suffer from AIDS in this country are either gay/bisexual men and/or intravenous drug abusers.

The fact is that almost 25 years of battling this disease with "education", acceptance of the gay lifestyle as valid by our society, billions of dollars spent on a cure and expansion of gay rights has not stopped this killer. However, it has advanced the gay agenda.

The only sure thing that does work is abstinence. Let's face it, if condoms are say 95% effective, that means that if you have more than 20 sex partners you are almost certain to get AIDS even with a condom (and some gay and bisexual men have had hundreds of partners).

This is a gay health crisis, the total number of AIDS cases in this country since 1981 numbers less than 900,000. Over 60% of those people contracted the disease from having sex with another man or shooting drugs (again according to the CDC).

As for a real health crisis, try Alzheimer's disesase, the number of people dying from that is already in the millions in this country and no one knows what causes it even after decades of research.

How much money has been raised for AIDS? How much have taxpayers spent on finding a cure and on prevention? How much money has to be spent before the gay community is convinced that the rest of us care? The real problem is that the gay community lobbied to get re-open the gay bath houses and other places where sexual activity that spreads AIDS take place.

Secondly, the gays were more worried about protecting their privacy and that of their fellow butt-buddies rather than preventing the spread of the disease. You don't stop AIDS from spreading by getting laws passed which forbid the health department from informing the sex partners of an infected individual from being informed that they may have the disease. Yet, that is what the gay and AIDS activists did. And to the point where a mother of newborn child was not allowed to be told whether its own baby had the disease!
 
nakedemperor said:
A woman has the right to marry a man, but a man doesn't. That's a really odd way of looking at how the rights are unequal.

Not to mention that at this point some have the right to marry those whom they're sexually and romantically attracted to, and others do not. Those rights are also unequal.
Let's talk about the divorce laws in this country. Under those laws, a person can be divorced against their will, be separated from their children, be forced to turn over half (or more) of their property, have their income confiscated in order to "support" the children (with no obligation of accountability by the mother)..... without any evidence of wrong doing, upon the whim and caprice of a judge... in short, without the due process of law. A person who commits a crime has more rights than a man in a divorce court.

Considering that there are over 1.5 million divorces in this country a year, which affect several million children (who by the way, are 20 times more likely to be abused by their mothers' boyfriends than their own fathers, who are much more likely to drop out of school, more likely to be be poor, more likely to suffer from depression, suicide and other afflictions), and considering that only a handful of gays really want to be married, I'd say that this a far more serious problem than whether gays are being denied their rights by several orders of magnitude. We are talking about millions of children being forced to live without one of their parents, millions of parents being forced to live apart from their children, millions of people having their reputations sullied by courts based on nothing more than innuendo.

But of course, since this doesn't affect the gays, the gay community couldn't care less!
 
sitarro said:
... progresses from infection to full-blown AIDS in two or three months, the health department said.



In a way, this is good news - sort incubation and sero conversion means that persons will have much less time to transmit the disease. Right now one of the major problems is that infected persons are asymptomatic for up to 10 years, and this creates a long period for a high quantity of vectors.

A disease with a much shorter incubation is much easier to contain.


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KarlMarx said:
Let's talk about the divorce laws in this country. Under those laws, a person can be divorced against their will, be separated from their children, be forced to turn over half (or more) of their property, have their income confiscated in order to "support" the children (with no obligation of accountability by the mother)..... without any evidence of wrong doing, upon the whim and caprice of a judge... in short, without the due process of law. A person who commits a crime has more rights than a man in a divorce court.

Considering that there are over 1.5 million divorces in this country a year, which affect several million children (who by the way, are 20 times more likely to be abused by their mothers' boyfriends than their own fathers, who are much more likely to drop out of school, more likely to be be poor, more likely to suffer from depression, suicide and other afflictions), and considering that only a handful of gays really want to be married, I'd say that this a far more serious problem than whether gays are being denied their rights by several orders of magnitude. We are talking about millions of children being forced to live without one of their parents, millions of parents being forced to live apart from their children, millions of people having their reputations sullied by courts based on nothing more than innuendo.

But of course, since this doesn't affect the gays, the gay community couldn't care less!

Gays also continue to whine about not being able to marry when world hunger still exists! Man those selfish gays don't even TALK about the starving Somalian children! They couldn't care less!
 

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