New ice age in the near future !

[Oddball]

The magnitude of greenhouse forcing dwarfs the drop in TSI

The magnitude of bullshit coming from warmers rivals the carbon output of China.

 

[Likkmee]

The magnitude of greenhouse forcing dwarfs the drop in TSI

The magnitude of bullshit coming from warmers rivals the carbon output of China.

China tries, best they can. 5x the populous the empire....they do a lot..NOT ENOUGH BUT LIL BY LIL

 

[Uncensored2008]

New Ice Age in the near future.

Damn that Donald Trump....

 

[Uncensored2008]

Your graph is a lie.

Everyone here, particularly you, knows it.

 

[Crick]

Your graph is a lie.

Everyone here, particularly you, knows it.

And why would I believe it a lie? The same data are available from numerous sources and they all show the lack of correlation between TSI and temperature ever since AGW become dominant. Changes in TSI are dwarfed by changes in greenhouse warming.

 

[skookerasbil]

The models are wrong

Today one mainstream newspaper finally caught up with the global warming skeptic community and recognized that a recent release of data from the United Kingdom’s Met Office shows that since 1996 the temperature of the climate has stalled. For the past sixteen years there has been no global warming, at all.

Three takeaways from this story.

• This period of no-warming has now been as long as the previous period of warming. In other words, the stall in warming is getting long enough now to be statistically significant.
• The Met Office revealed its biases by how it unveiled this fact. Previously, when their data suggested the climate was warming, they heralded that fact loudly with bold predictions of catastrophes to come. But when their data suggested their predictions were wrong and the climate wasn’t warming, they released the data with as little fanfare as possible.
• Finally, and most important, this data demonstrates clearly that all the computer models used by climate scientists to predict the future climate are patently wrong. They don’t understand what is happening, even if some of them refuse to admit it.

https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/essays-and-commentaries/the-models-are-wrong/

 

[Crick]

Your link leads us to a story from October 14, 2012.

It looks to me as if SOMEONE is wrong. I just don't think it's mainstream science.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Your graph is a lie.

Everyone here, particularly you, knows it.

And why would I believe it a lie? The same data are available from numerous sources and they all show the lack of correlation between TSI and temperature ever since AGW become dominant. Changes in TSI are dwarfed by changes in greenhouse warming.

I overwhelmed you with data back at AWE, hundreds of other have done the same here. You are simply dishonest. You are invested in your cult - which means you profit from it - so you post lies.

Any graph showing a significant rise in temperature since 1998 is a fraud. You engage in fraud because it lines your pocket.

 

[Sunsettommy]

decrease in solar activity may indicate looming drop in global temps ! Diminishing solar activity may bring new Ice Age by 2030 – Astronomy Now

You can't bring in a new ice age when we have been in one for the last 2.6 million years. We ARE currently in an ice age, which has two different phases, Glaciation or Interglaciation (interglacial). Currently we are in the Interglacial period, thus you can't have glaciation going on, but can have significant cooling trend for a while before it warms up again.

When solar activity diminishes long enough, there will be a significant cooling trend ahead, and maybe even on top of the looming cycling cooling we were going to have anyway. Then on top of that we are nearing the end of the periodic 350 year warming cycle, which has been ongoing since the beginning of the Minoan warm phase. There is a clear 900-1100 year cycle where it warms significantly, then cools significantly, with an over all COOLING trend over the last 3,250 years as the interglacial period is in the Autumnal part of the cycle.

 

[Billy_Bob]

The models are wrong

Today one mainstream newspaper finally caught up with the global warming skeptic community and recognized that a recent release of data from the United Kingdom’s Met Office shows that since 1996 the temperature of the climate has stalled. For the past sixteen years there has been no global warming, at all.

Three takeaways from this story.

• This period of no-warming has now been as long as the previous period of warming. In other words, the stall in warming is getting long enough now to be statistically significant.
• The Met Office revealed its biases by how it unveiled this fact. Previously, when their data suggested the climate was warming, they heralded that fact loudly with bold predictions of catastrophes to come. But when their data suggested their predictions were wrong and the climate wasn’t warming, they released the data with as little fanfare as possible.
• Finally, and most important, this data demonstrates clearly that all the computer models used by climate scientists to predict the future climate are patently wrong. They don’t understand what is happening, even if some of them refuse to admit it.

https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/essays-and-commentaries/the-models-are-wrong/

He is right on the money. The article was written in 2012 but the assessments have come to pass with great accuracy. The US SHO (Solar Observatory) has noted solar output dropping below that which was seen in the maunder minimum. The question now is how long will it persist. If it lasts 3 years we will replay the maunder minimum without a doubt. The Spectral shift is causing rapid ocean cooling as the output region that is capable of warming the oceans is diminished by 12-18%. This is significant as we may already be seeing the beginning of the coming massive drop in global temps and there is no way to slow it or stop it now.

 

[Billy_Bob]

decrease in solar activity may indicate looming drop in global temps ! Diminishing solar activity may bring new Ice Age by 2030 – Astronomy Now

You can't bring in a new ice age when we have been in one for the last 2.6 million years. We ARE currently in an ice age, which has two different phases, Glaciation or Interglaciation (interglacial). Currently we are in the Interglacial period, thus you can't have glaciation going on, but can have significant cooling trend for a while before it warms up again.

When solar activity diminishes long enough, there will be a significant cooling trend ahead, and maybe even on top of the looming cycling cooling we were going to have anyway. Then on top of that we are nearing the end of the periodic 350 year warming cycle, which has been ongoing since the beginning of the Minoan warm phase. There is a clear 900-1100 year cycle where it warms significantly, then cools significantly, with an over all COOLING trend over the last 3,250 years as the interglacial period is in the Autumnal part of the cycle.

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The duration of your warming spikes is about 100-140 years. Oddly enough that is where we are today and if the cycles persist we will cool, rapidly... Empirical evidence is backing up what we are seeing coming. Must suck to be an alarmist and be wrong 100% of the time..

 

[skookerasbil]

Your link leads us to a story from October 14, 2012.

It looks to me as if SOMEONE is wrong. I just don't think it's mainstream science.

Meh

Doesnt change the content s0n......stop doing the phony stuff!! Doesnt change what the IPCC said, "The models cannot be used to predict the future climate"

Lol.....if a climate skeptic posts up something from 2017, to the alarmist, it's not mainstream because it's too old.

These frauds will say anything to promote their narrative.....thankfully, their #'s are a touch above fringe.

 

[Crick]

You post claimed that it led to an article that would show there had been no warming in the last 16 years. That, quite obviously, is not true. YOU are the one "doing the phony stuff".

 

[Billy_Bob]

decrease in solar activity may indicate looming drop in global temps ! Diminishing solar activity may bring new Ice Age by 2030 – Astronomy Now

You can't bring in a new ice age when we have been in one for the last 2.6 million years. We ARE currently in an ice age, which has two different phases, Glaciation or Interglaciation (interglacial). Currently we are in the Interglacial period, thus you can't have glaciation going on, but can have significant cooling trend for a while before it warms up again.

When solar activity diminishes long enough, there will be a significant cooling trend ahead, and maybe even on top of the looming cycling cooling we were going to have anyway. Then on top of that we are nearing the end of the periodic 350 year warming cycle, which has been ongoing since the beginning of the Minoan warm phase. There is a clear 900-1100 year cycle where it warms significantly, then cools significantly, with an over all COOLING trend over the last 3,250 years as the interglacial period is in the Autumnal part of the cycle.

View attachment 253071

The duration of your warming spikes is about 100-140 years. Oddly enough that is where we are today and if the cycles persist we will cool, rapidly... Empirical evidence is backing up what we are seeing coming. Must suck to be an alarmist and be wrong 100% of the time..

Well Tommy the boys over in Colorado shot me today's plot of the solar spectrum. The drop out is massive 22.1% in the region that penetrates our oceans (0.2um-1.2um)

This is the region of down-welling radiation that penetrates our oceans and warms them. Its bottoming out in relative terms. If this persists our oceans will cool rapidly. Talk about a major blow to our input energy..

The blue line I added below is average...

 

[yidnar]

even if temps drop dems will somehow claim they warned us all ! hence the switch from the term global warming that they have shouted for decades to climate change !! they just want an excuse to use climate as a reason for more government control !

 

[Billy_Bob]

even if temps drop dems will somehow claim they warned us all ! hence the switch from the term global warming that they have shouted for decades to climate change !! they just want an excuse to use climate as a reason for more government control !

TSI remains basically unchanged as a whole unit of measurement. The shift is within the output and allows the composite to remain close. The problem comes in how the earth deals with the shift in energy input bands. Now a region that is basically unchallenged and warms earths oceans to 700m is reduced and the oceans are no longer receiving the energy. As earths oceans go so do our temperatures... The longer this persists the colder we will become.

 

[Crick]

even if temps drop dems will somehow claim they warned us all ! hence the switch from the term global warming that they have shouted for decades to climate change !! they just want an excuse to use climate as a reason for more government control !

TSI remains basically unchanged as a whole unit of measurement. The shift is within the output and allows the composite to remain close. The problem comes in how the earth deals with the shift in energy input bands. Now a region that is basically unchallenged and warms earths oceans to 700m is reduced and the oceans are no longer receiving the energy. As earths oceans go so do our temperatures...

Oh Jeezus H Kee-rist.

"TSI remains basically unchanged as a whole unit of measurement" What the fuck is that supposed to mean? "Whole unit of measurement"???

"The shift is within the output and allows the composite to remain close." What the fuck is that supposed to mean? Output?? Composite???

"The problem comes in how the earth deals with the shift in energy input bands" What shift in energy input bands?

"Now a region that is basically unchallenged..." What the fuck is that supposed to mean? A region basically unchallenged???

"And warms earths [sic] oceans to 700m is reduced" What warms Earth's oceans to 700 meters?

"And the oceans are no longer receiving the energy" What energy are the Earth's oceans no longer receiving?

 

[mamooth]

That was "settled science" in the 1970s, monkey boi.

I wouldn't say the warming prediction consensus was settled by the 1970s, but it was close.

In contrast, your cult's ice age predictions were a small minority even back in the 1970s. The interesting thing is how, as the evidence against your HolyIceAge piles up in mountains, it has caused your cult's belief in the oncoming HolyIceAge to get stronger instead of weaker.

But then, that's how doomsday cults like yours operate. Whenever hard evidence against their version of doomsday is presented, it will causes TrueBelievers to get even more stubborn regarding their doomsday beliefs.

 

[mamooth]

Any graph showing a significant rise in temperature since 1998 is a fraud.

Many Flat-earthers sincerely believe the earth is flat. They're still wrong, because all the hard data says they're wrong. The same applies to your beliefs. The hard data contradicts them, so they're wrong, regardless of how fanatical your belief is.

 

[mamooth]

When solar activity diminishes long enough, there will be a significant cooling trend ahead,

Sure, if the sun's output decreased 5%, there would be a cooling trend, but that's not gong to happen. No realistically possible amount of solar dimming is going to stop the man-made warming. At most, it can only slow down the warming a bit.

Then on top of that we are nearing the end of the periodic 350 year warming cycle, which has been ongoing since the beginning of the Minoan warm phase. There is a clear 900-1100 year cycle where it warms significantly, then cools significantly, with an over all COOLING trend over the last 3,250 years as the interglacial period is in the Autumnal part of the cycle.

So, do tell, what causes these magic cycles? Be specific.

Oh, that's right. Nobody knows. It was just curve fitting and mathturbation.

It also featured a fine cherrypicking deception, using one point on an ice sheet,

And it tossed in a "let's cut off the most recent 100 years of warming" deception.