New Hawaii law shuns Obama birth document requests

[EriktheRed]

Vidoes--Update on Dr. Manning's 'Trial of the Century' Against Obama
This thing is shaping up to be a major event in New York.

A black Harlem Pastor is placing on trial Barack Obama and Columbia University for fraud, treason, and sedition--and he claims his legal consultants say it will carry the full weight of the law!

Conservative Examiner reports the update and provides videos from Dr. Manning explaining the trial.

Dr. Manning claims he has irrefutable proof that Obama never attended Columbia University and sworn statements from a high-ranking government official concerning fraudulent information provided by Barack Obama.

The Liberty Sphere: Vidoes--Update on Dr. Manning's 'Trial of the Century' Against Obama

 

[jillian]

Same goes for the teleprompter people

No way a black man can speak that well without someone feeding him the lines.

they just want to attribute all of baby bush's failings to him... rational or not.

it must suck to suffer from obama derangement syndrome. so much anger, so little time.

The idea that a black man is not only President ...but capable of independent thought is more than they can take. He must be just a puppet being fed his lines

I don't think it's a racial thing for most. I think they'd have behaved the same way with anyone they lost to.

 

[JimH52]

The Baggers are desperate to get rid of the "Magic Negro." It must be keeping some of these people up at night...LOL

Which is pretty dang funny when you think about it. I know some of us were tortured during the Bush years, but can you imagine to pain some of these guys are feeling? They probably turn the TV off each time he is shown on news channels. I think it is hilarious! No wonder Rush had a heart scare a few weeks ago. It must be the severe strain of knowing the Commander and Chief is a BLACK MAN. It has got to make you laugh!

Worse yet, that he is succeeding beyond their wildest fears

It is sort of like the all white basketball teams of the 40s and 50s. They would have been totally indignant if some black person said he could play better that they could. Now, you have to seach pretty hard to find a white starter on any NBA team.

 

[JimH52]

they just want to attribute all of baby bush's failings to him... rational or not.

it must suck to suffer from obama derangement syndrome. so much anger, so little time.

The idea that a black man is not only President ...but capable of independent thought is more than they can take. He must be just a puppet being fed his lines

I don't think it's a racial thing for most. I think they'd have behaved the same way with anyone they lost to.

But Jillian, you and I have been around for a while and I have NEVER seen as much indignation from the far right. If Obama had been a white man, I cannot imagine we would be seeing the advent of the Tea Party and the totally fringe groups that have been popping up. I really think there is an underlying fact, and it has to be race.

If Hillary had been elected, I expect she would also have been as vilified as Obama. It is race and gender that sets off a lot of the loons on the far right...IMHO.

 

[Sarah G]

The idea that a black man is not only President ...but capable of independent thought is more than they can take. He must be just a puppet being fed his lines

I don't think it's a racial thing for most. I think they'd have behaved the same way with anyone they lost to.

But Jillian, you and I have been around for a while and I have NEVER seen as much indignation from the far right. If Obama had been a white man, I cannot imagine we would be seeing the advent of the Tea Party and the totally fringe groups that have been popping up. I really think there is an underlying fact, and it has to be race.

If Hillary had been elected, I expect she would also have been as vilified as Obama. It is race and gender that sets off a lot of the loons on the far right...IMHO.

I see the teapartiers as the Religious Right and they are by far the angriest of Republicans. They place White Males above women and other races, they are not Independents as they would like to portray themselves.

 

[rightwinger]

The idea that a black man is not only President ...but capable of independent thought is more than they can take. He must be just a puppet being fed his lines

I don't think it's a racial thing for most. I think they'd have behaved the same way with anyone they lost to.

But Jillian, you and I have been around for a while and I have NEVER seen as much indignation from the far right. If Obama had been a white man, I cannot imagine we would be seeing the advent of the Tea Party and the totally fringe groups that have been popping up. I really think there is an underlying fact, and it has to be race.

If Hillary had been elected, I expect she would also have been as vilified as Obama. It is race and gender that sets off a lot of the loons on the far right...IMHO.

Actually, Hillary would have gotten it much worse than Obama. The right had been gearing up for three years to run against Hillary only to have the carpet pulled out from underneath them. They did not know how to run negative against a black man...that is why their current attempts are so pathetic

 

[JimH52]

I don't think it's a racial thing for most. I think they'd have behaved the same way with anyone they lost to.

But Jillian, you and I have been around for a while and I have NEVER seen as much indignation from the far right. If Obama had been a white man, I cannot imagine we would be seeing the advent of the Tea Party and the totally fringe groups that have been popping up. I really think there is an underlying fact, and it has to be race.

If Hillary had been elected, I expect she would also have been as vilified as Obama. It is race and gender that sets off a lot of the loons on the far right...IMHO.

Actually, Hillary would have gotten it much worse than Obama. The right had been gearing up for three years to run against Hillary only to have the carpet pulled out from underneath them. They did not know how to run negative against a black man...that is why their current attempts are so pathetic

Perhaps they didn't know how to attack a black man at first, but they have now gotten to be experts at it. If Howell Cosell had called a black athlete the "Magic Negro" in the 70s or 80s, he would have been run out of town. But Rush is free to spout racism and ignorance everyday, and no one cares. What is wrong with the picture?

 

[Zona]

The Baggers are desperate to get rid of the "Magic Negro." It must be keeping some of these people up at night...LOL

Which is pretty dang funny when you think about it. I know some of us were tortured during the Bush years, but can you imagine to pain some of these guys are feeling? They probably turn the TV off each time he is shown on news channels. I think it is hilarious! No wonder Rush had a heart scare a few weeks ago. It must be the severe strain of knowing the Commander and Chief is a BLACK MAN. It has got to make you laugh!

hmmm...two references to the race of BO...

NO references to the incompetence of BO...

So, help me out here...who's the racist?

I'm wondering about the minorities that belong to the Tea Party...should they be offended? It's already established that the left hates the Tea Party. Can't say that I blame them for such a disturbing disdain. Since there is no real way to fight it's true position, they go for the easy one...the racial position. Unfortunately, the black representation within the movement offers some power of negating that accusation. Are there racists within the Tea Party....I would be inclined to say yes. Just as there are racists in the Republican and Democrat parties. Is race the reason for the development of the Tea Party movement? Of course not. It has everything to do with a very large number of Americans standing up for what they believe and standing against what they disapprove of. The Tea Party focuses on the shortcomings of this administration. Not just the POTUS but the entire administration.

Because its not about incompetence...if it was, the tea baggers would have been all over bush, its ALL about race dude. Lets not be disingenuous.

 

[Zona]

It simply cracks me up...the frustration a true racist must be going through with Obama as president. I mean really, it has to be infuriating and it makes me smile.

 

[my2¢]

It is well past time for the birthers to either crap or get off the pot. They've had over a year now to come up with an Obama birth certificate and have the government that issued it, back the document as has be done by Hawaii. At this point these folks have as much legitimacy as those blaming G.W. Bush for 9/11.

 

[rightwinger]

It is well past time for the birthers to either crap or get off the pot. They've had over a year now to come up with an Obama birth certificate and have the government that issued it, back the document as has be done by Hawaii. At this point these folks have as much legitimacy as those blaming G.W. Bush for 9/11.

It goes beyond that. The birthers have had two years to come up with any supporting documentation that Obama's mother was in Kenya at the time of his birth or if she was ever in Kenya. It is not that difficult to do.

The fact that they haven't shows they have nothing....and never did

 

[geauxtohell]

Making birthers look bad REALLY doesn't take much additional effort.....

Once again, since he says he has nothing to hide, WHY is he HIDING it? Did you know Obama pays several Lawyers a retainer to help hide his past, including his and his wife's college life and information? Sure seems like a foolish act if there is nothing to hide now doesn't it?

Even YOU have to admit claiming you have nothing to hide and then going out of your way to hide everything can bring up reasonable questions as to why.

Prove it.

Like every other challenge for the birthers to prove this statement, this will be met with crickets.

 

[geauxtohell]

Vidoes--Update on Dr. Manning's 'Trial of the Century' Against Obama
This thing is shaping up to be a major event in New York.

A black Harlem Pastor is placing on trial Barack Obama and Columbia University for fraud, treason, and sedition--and he claims his legal consultants say it will carry the full weight of the law!

How can a pastor place anyone one "trial"? This is why you birthers fail at life. You don't even understand the court system and then wonder why all your idiotic motions fail.

 

[geauxtohell]

Actually, Hillary would have gotten it much worse than Obama. The right had been gearing up for three years to run against Hillary only to have the carpet pulled out from underneath them. They did not know how to run negative against a black man...that is why their current attempts are so pathetic

That's why the far right is so befuckled. They had a playbook against Hillary that was 15 years in the making. They are just lost against Obama.

 

[rightwinger]

Actually, Hillary would have gotten it much worse than Obama. The right had been gearing up for three years to run against Hillary only to have the carpet pulled out from underneath them. They did not know how to run negative against a black man...that is why their current attempts are so pathetic

That's why the far right is so befuckled. They had a playbook against Hillary that was 15 years in the making. They are just lost against Obama.

The best they can do...

Obama is not a real American
Obama needs a teleprompter in order to speak
Obama is a Socialist/Marxist/Facist
Obama hates whites
Obama loves terrorists

Such an obvious and clumsy attempt at smearing the President.

 

[zeitgeist2012]

Actually, Hillary would have gotten it much worse than Obama. The right had been gearing up for three years to run against Hillary only to have the carpet pulled out from underneath them. They did not know how to run negative against a black man...that is why their current attempts are so pathetic

That's why the far right is so befuckled. They had a playbook against Hillary that was 15 years in the making. They are just lost against Obama.

Yeah...Right...Parrot! Here are your progressive Marxist/Fascist in action against the American people and our Constitution:


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[PubliusInfinitum]

I have no idea if he was born in the states or not, but the question still remains... Why is there so much secrecy about his birth certificate? Just show it and the whole discrepancy is over. It sure seems like there is a big effort to make sure this doesn't get out...


New Hawaii law shuns Obama birth document requests - Yahoo! News

Quite obviously, it is nothing more than a ploy to make the right look bad. Dont show the actual BC and make them look like nuts when they question his validity.

The Obama camp had that in theuir plans since day 1. My opinion.

His team has a way of making the American People look silly.

All should resent him for his lack of respect of the intelligence of the American People.

Well, I can see the reasoning behind that... Of course, the problem with that is two fold... First, it states that the powers that be, are childishly using the US Constitution and the Laws of the United States as a means to position themselves Politically... and Second, it presumes that man was born in the US... and is NOT using an otherwise widely accepted, but certainly untested thesis that BEING a Hawaiin citizen, provides that one meets the natural born condition set forth in the US Constitution.

It serves reason perfectly, that the reason for the COLB is that the COLB provides for the establishment of Hawaiin Citizenship... therefore promoting the ASSUMPTION that the man was born in the State of Hawaii; without the burden of stating such under oathe; which would be the case where he provided a Long Form Birth Certificate.

He has stated in his public writings, that he was born at a specific Hawaiin Hospital... which has been proven to be false. to which the response has been vaguely presented through third parties, the he was 'mistaken' or taken out of context... If he had a Long Form Birth Certificate, it would have that information on it... Information which could be readily confirmed.

So the most plausible reason for the COLB is that it represents "Hawaiin citizenship"... and that LEGALLY; a position which rests at the molecular level, on the head of a pin... providing that he was "born in Hawaii"; when it is becoming very clear that he was not.

The rationalization that he is playing games with his opposition, would have made the cut of 'being cute' a couple of years ago... But he's now long since past that; and he is now the ONLY reason that this issue remains on the table. It is now making HIS SUPPORTERS LOOK FOOLISH.

I mean look...

They've told us that Barak Hussein Obama was a Constitutional Scholar...

It turns out he wasn't...

They told us that Barry was a College Professor... Nope... Not even close... turns out that he was NOT A COLLEGE PROF...

We were told that he was a Licensed Attorney!

WELLlllll... There's no evidence of that either.

And what's more... we've now some information wherein the would-be Hawaiian born Barry Soetoro has the Social Security number which would otherwise represent him as someone who lived in Connecticut; a state which little BS had never stepped foot in; let alone resided.

No Sir... there's little about this clown which was SAID TO BE FACTUAL which has turned out to be anything CLOSE to factual; his background history, as it was laid out during his 3 year campaign is a FRAUDULENT SHELL.

 

[VaYank5150]

You righties are so gullible, it is laughable....I ALMOST feel sorry for you.

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[PubliusInfinitum]

You righties are so gullible, it is laughable....I ALMOST feel sorry for you.

snopes.com: Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act

While the Progressive has constructed this post, in such a way that she hopes you will assume that Snopes has refuting evidence disproving or otherwise discrediting the argument; in fact, if you read the link, you'll find that Snopes actually confirms the argument; but claims that the chances of the bill getting voted up are slim to none.

In other words the Left has advanced the bill... but they simply recognize that voting that bill up at THIS TIME WOULD BE TANTAMOUNT TO POLITICAL SUICIDE. And this because there exist VASTLY MORE AMERICANS in the US, than Leftists...

 

[rightwinger]

Zeitgeist...... Yeah...Right...Parrot! Here are your progressive Marxist/Fascist in action against the American people and our Constitution:

Great way to start a post...makes you want to see what happens next