New Benghazi E-mails Link White House to Doctoring of Talking Points

[Bloodrock44]

Just an FYI.

The person in the WH aka Home of the Whopper who wrote the talking point just happens to be the brother of the President of CBS news.

It wouldn't matter if he was God Himself, it wouldn't change the facts or make this into anything more than it actually is, a deadly fuck-up, mostly by our dead ambassador Stevens, may he rest in peace, the stupid bastard.

And just how did Stevens fuck it up, you commie piece of shit? He twice requested extra security because of the 9/11 anniversary and unrest in the area. He was turned down twice by the State Department. Everyone is focusing on who and why it happened when the focus should be on the asshole who turned him down. And don't tell us the republicans slashed the budget so much we couldn't afford to send a platoon of Marines that would have stopped the attack dead in it's tracks.

 

[Theowl32]

It doesn't bother me because that's not what happened. You simply believe that it did, when it didn't.

the pretend rabbi is also a compulsive liar.

ask him where he and the other nutters were during baby bush's 13 benghazis with their 50 dead.

oh wait....

13 Benghazis Happened Under President Bush and Fox News Said Nothing - PolicyMic


January 22, 2002. Calcutta, India. Gunmen associated with Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami attack the U.S. Consulate. Five people are killed.

June 14, 2002. Karachi, Pakistan. Suicide bomber connected with al-Qaida attacks the U.S. Consulate, killing 12 and injuring 51.

October 12, 2002. Denpasar, Indonesia. U.S. diplomatic offices bombed as part of a string of “Bali Bombings.” No fatalities.

February 28, 2003. Islamabad, Pakistan. Several gunmen fire upon the U.S. Embassy. Two people are killed.

May 12, 2003. Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Armed al-Qaida terrorists storm the diplomatic compound killing 36 people including nine Americans. The assailants committed suicide by detonating a truck bomb.

July 30, 2004. Tashkent, Uzbekistan. A suicide bomber from the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan attacks the U.S. Embassy, killing two people.

December 6, 2004. Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Al-Qaida terrorists storm the U.S. Consulate and occupy the perimeter wall. Nine people are killed.

March 2, 2006. Karachi, Pakistan again. Suicide bomber attacks the U.S. Consulate killing four people, including U.S. diplomat David Foy who was directly targeted by the attackers. (I wonder if Lindsey Graham or Fox News would even recognize the name “David Foy.” This is the third Karachi terrorist attack in four years on what’s considered American soil.)

September 12, 2006. Damascus, Syria. Four armed gunmen shouting “Allahu akbar” storm the U.S. Embassy using grenades, automatic weapons, a car bomb and a truck bomb. Four people are killed, 13 are wounded.

January 12, 2007. Athens, Greece. Members of a Greek terrorist group called the Revolutionary Struggle fire a rocket-propelled grenade at the U.S. Embassy. No fatalities.

March 18, 2008. Sana’a, Yemen. Members of the al-Qaida-linked Islamic Jihad of Yemen fire a mortar at the U.S. Embassy. The shot misses the embassy, but hits nearby school killing two.

July 9, 2008. Istanbul, Turkey. Four armed terrorists attack the U.S. Consulate. Six people are killed.

September 17, 2008. Sana’a, Yemen. Terrorists dressed as military officials attack the U.S. Embassy with an arsenal of weapons including RPGs and detonate two car bombs. Sixteen people are killed, including an American student and her husband (they had been married for three weeks when the attack occurred). This is the second attack on this embassy in seven months.

Look at this fucking loser. Liberals, folks. Liberals. Their double standards are so pathetic.

Want to see some factchecks that the left wing media is guilty of? You asked for it, loser.

Fact Check: Obama Had More to Do With 2008 Economic Meltdown Than Bush Ever Did

State Sen. Barack Obama and crackpot priest Michael Pfleger led a protest in Chicago in January 2000. (NBC 5 Week of January 3, 2000)



Barack Obama played a leading role in the mortgage crisis of 2008 that sunk the US economy.

In his early activist days, Barack Obama the community organizer sued banks to ease lending practices.

In 1994, Barack Obama was one of the plaintiffs in a class action lawsuit, alleging that Citibank had engaged in practices that discriminated against minorities. The lawsuit forced the bank to ease its lending practices.
The Daily Caller reported:

President Barack Obama was a pioneering contributor to the national subprime real estate bubble, and roughly half of the 186 African-American clients in his landmark 1995 mortgage discrimination lawsuit against Citibank have since gone bankrupt or received foreclosure notices…

…Obama has pursued the same top-down mortgage lending policies in the White House.

Obama’s lawsuit was one element of a national “anti-redlining” campaign led by Chicago’s progressive groups, who argued that banks unfairly refused to lend money to people living within so-called “redlines” around African-American communities. The campaign was powered by progressives’ moral claim that their expertise could boost home ownership among the United States’ most disadvantaged minority, African-Americans.



Speaker Pelosi failed to mention was that President Bush warned the Democratic Congress 17 times in 2008 alone about the systemic consequences of financial turmoil at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and also put forward thoughtful plans to reduce the risk that either Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac would encounter such difficulties.

Unfortunately, these warnings went unheeded, as the President’s repeated attempts to reform the supervision of these entities were thwarted by the legislative maneuvering of those who emphatically denied there were problems.

The White House released this list of attempts by President Bush to reform Freddie Mae and Freddie Mac since he took office in 2001.
Unfortunately, Congress did not act on the president’s warnings:

** 2001

April: The Administration’s FY02 budget declares that the size of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac is “a potential problem,” because “financial trouble of a large GSE could cause strong repercussions in financial markets, affecting Federally insured entities and economic activity.”

** 2002

May: The President calls for the disclosure and corporate governance principles contained in his 10-point plan for corporate responsibility to apply to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. (OMB Prompt Letter to OFHEO, 5/29/02)

** 2003

January: Freddie Mac announces it has to restate financial results for the previous three years.

February: The Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight (OFHEO) releases a report explaining that “although investors perceive an implicit Federal guarantee of [GSE] obligations,” “the government has provided no explicit legal backing for them.” As a consequence, unexpected problems at a GSE could immediately spread into financial sectors beyond the housing market. (“Systemic Risk: Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and the Role of OFHEO,” OFHEO Report, 2/4/03)

September: Fannie Mae discloses SEC investigation and acknowledges OFHEO’s review found earnings manipulations.

September: Treasury Secretary John Snow testifies before the House Financial Services Committee to recommend that Congress enact “legislation to create a new Federal agency to regulate and supervise the financial activities of our housing-related government sponsored enterprises” and set prudent and appropriate minimum capital adequacy requirements.

October: Fannie Mae discloses $1.2 billion accounting error.

November: Council of the Economic Advisers (CEA) Chairman Greg Mankiw explains that any “legislation to reform GSE regulation should empower the new regulator with sufficient strength and credibility to reduce systemic risk.” To reduce the potential for systemic instability, the regulator would have “broad authority to set both risk-based and minimum capital standards” and “receivership powers necessary to wind down the affairs of a troubled GSE.” (N. Gregory Mankiw, Remarks At The Conference Of State Bank Supervisors State Banking Summit And Leadership, 11/6/03)

** 2004

February: The President’s FY05 Budget again highlights the risk posed by the explosive growth of the GSEs and their low levels of required capital, and called for creation of a new, world-class regulator: “The Administration has determined that the safety and soundness regulators of the housing GSEs lack sufficient power and stature to meet their responsibilities, and therefore…should be replaced with a new strengthened regulator.” (2005 Budget Analytic Perspectives, pg. 83)

February: CEA Chairman Mankiw cautions Congress to “not take [the financial market's] strength for granted.” Again, the call from the Administration was to reduce this risk by “ensuring that the housing GSEs are overseen by an effective regulator.” (N. Gregory Mankiw, Op-Ed, “Keeping Fannie And Freddie’s House In Order,” Financial Times, 2/24/04)

June: Deputy Secretary of Treasury Samuel Bodman spotlights the risk posed by the GSEs and called for reform, saying “We do not have a world-class system of supervision of the housing government sponsored enterprises (GSEs), even though the importance of the housing financial system that the GSEs serve demands the best in supervision to ensure the long-term vitality of that system. Therefore, the Administration has called for a new, first class, regulatory supervisor for the three housing GSEs: Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and the Federal Home Loan Banking System.” (Samuel Bodman, House Financial Services Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations Testimony, 6/16/04)

** 2005

April: Treasury Secretary John Snow repeats his call for GSE reform, saying “Events that have transpired since I testified before this Committee in 2003 reinforce concerns over the systemic risks posed by the GSEs and further highlight the need for real GSE reform to ensure that our housing finance system remains a strong and vibrant source of funding for expanding homeownership opportunities in America… Half-measures will only exacerbate the risks to our financial system.” (Secretary John W. Snow, “Testimony Before The U.S. House Financial Services Committee,” 4/13/05)

** 2007

July: Two Bear Stearns hedge funds invested in mortgage securities collapse.

August: President Bush emphatically calls on Congress to pass a reform package for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, saying “first things first when it comes to those two institutions. Congress needs to get them reformed, get them streamlined, get them focused, and then I will consider other options.” (President George W. Bush, Press Conference, The White House, 8/9/07)

September: RealtyTrac announces foreclosure filings up 243,000 in August – up 115 percent from the year before.

September: Single-family existing home sales decreases 7.5 percent from the previous month – the lowest level in nine years. Median sale price of existing homes fell six percent from the year before.

December: President Bush again warns Congress of the need to pass legislation reforming GSEs, saying “These institutions provide liquidity in the mortgage market that benefits millions of homeowners, and it is vital they operate safely and operate soundly. So I’ve called on Congress to pass legislation that strengthens independent regulation of the GSEs – and ensures they focus on their important housing mission. The GSE reform bill passed by the House earlier this year is a good start. But the Senate has not acted. And the United States Senate needs to pass this legislation soon.” (President George W. Bush, Discusses Housing, The White House, 12/6/07)

** 2008

January: Bank of America announces it will buy Countrywide.

January: Citigroup announces mortgage portfolio lost $18.1 billion in value.

February: Assistant Secretary David Nason reiterates the urgency of reforms, says “A new regulatory structure for the housing GSEs is essential if these entities are to continue to perform their public mission successfully.” (David Nason, Testimony On Reforming GSE Regulation, Senate Committee On Banking, Housing And Urban Affairs, 2/7/08)

March: Bear Stearns announces it will sell itself to JPMorgan Chase.

March: President Bush calls on Congress to take action and “move forward with reforms on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. They need to continue to modernize the FHA, as well as allow State housing agencies to issue tax-free bonds to homeowners to refinance their mortgages.” (President George W. Bush, Remarks To The Economic Club Of New York, New York, NY, 3/14/08)

April: President Bush urges Congress to pass the much needed legislation
and “modernize Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. [There are] constructive things Congress can do that will encourage the housing market to correct quickly by … helping people stay in their homes.” (President George W. Bush, Meeting With Cabinet, the White House, 4/14/08)

May: President Bush issues several pleas to Congress to pass legislation reforming Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac before the situation deteriorates further.

“Americans are concerned about making their mortgage payments and keeping their homes. Yet Congress has failed to pass legislation I have repeatedly requested to modernize the Federal Housing Administration that will help more families stay in their homes, reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to ensure they focus on their housing mission, and allow State housing agencies to issue tax-free bonds to refinance sub-prime loans.” (President George W. Bush, Radio Address, 5/3/08)

“[T]he government ought to be helping creditworthy people stay in their homes. And one way we can do that – and Congress is making progress on this – is the reform of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. That reform will come with a strong, independent regulator.” (President George W. Bush, Meeting With The Secretary Of The Treasury, the White House, 5/19/08)

“Congress needs to pass legislation to modernize the Federal Housing Administration, reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to ensure they focus on their housing mission, and allow State housing agencies to issue tax-free bonds to refinance subprime loans.” (President George W. Bush, Radio Address, 5/31/08)

June: As foreclosure rates continued to rise in the first quarter, the President once again asks Congress to take the necessary measures to address this challenge, saying “we need to pass legislation to reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.” (President George W. Bush, Remarks At Swearing In Ceremony For Secretary Of Housing And Urban Development, Washington, D.C., 6/6/08)

July: Congress heeds the President’s call for action and passes reform of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac as it becomes clear that the institutions are failing.

In 2005– Senator John McCain partnered with three other Senate Republicans to reform the government’s involvement in lending.
Democrats blocked this reform, too.


Liberals are nothing but losers. Especially this asshole. The do not give one shit about anything that has anything do with the truth.

 

[Theowl32]

Just an FYI.

The person in the WH aka Home of the Whopper who wrote the talking point just happens to be the brother of the President of CBS news.

It wouldn't matter if he was God Himself, it wouldn't change the facts or make this into anything more than it actually is, a deadly fuck-up, mostly by our dead ambassador Stevens, may he rest in peace, the stupid bastard.

And just how did Stevens fuck it up, you commie piece of shit? He twice requested extra security because of the 9/11 anniversary and unrest in the area. He was turned down twice by the State Department. Everyone is focusing on who and why it happened when the focus should be on the asshole who turned him down. And don't tell us the republicans slashed the budget so much we couldn't afford to send a platoon of Marines that would have stopped the attack dead in it's tracks.

Can you believe how low these pieces of shit will go to cling to the notion that they were right with the Benghazi situation.

An Asshole like this cocksucker just showed us all what they are about. He blamed the ambassador even though he made repeated requests for security. It is beyond clear that the Obama pieces of political shit abandoned him and lied deliberately to the families for political expediency, just like we said.

We were right, and they were wrong. Again. Now, in order to deal with this fact, they piss all over the grave of the slain.

That is how much these left wing pieces of shit actually care about the down trodden or tortured. They hold hands and sing and protest at the notion that some scumbag brown terrorist is water boarded. They call it torture even though our own soldiers are water boarded during training. Not that they give one shit about our soldiers being water boarded. They could not care less. They only pretend to care that some brown terrorist is water boarded in order to save millions of lives.

Now, they make comments like this and this piece of shit gets thank yous from the others on the left.

They are more useless than my shit.

 

[mudwhistle]

It doesn't bother me because that's not what happened. You simply believe that it did, when it didn't.

the pretend rabbi is also a compulsive liar.

ask him where he and the other nutters were during baby bush's 13 benghazis with their 50 dead.

oh wait....

13 Benghazis Happened Under President Bush and Fox News Said Nothing - PolicyMic


January 22, 2002. Calcutta, India. Gunmen associated with Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami attack the U.S. Consulate. Five people are killed.

June 14, 2002. Karachi, Pakistan. Suicide bomber connected with al-Qaida attacks the U.S. Consulate, killing 12 and injuring 51.

October 12, 2002. Denpasar, Indonesia. U.S. diplomatic offices bombed as part of a string of “Bali Bombings.” No fatalities.

February 28, 2003. Islamabad, Pakistan. Several gunmen fire upon the U.S. Embassy. Two people are killed.

May 12, 2003. Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Armed al-Qaida terrorists storm the diplomatic compound killing 36 people including nine Americans. The assailants committed suicide by detonating a truck bomb.

July 30, 2004. Tashkent, Uzbekistan. A suicide bomber from the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan attacks the U.S. Embassy, killing two people.

December 6, 2004. Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Al-Qaida terrorists storm the U.S. Consulate and occupy the perimeter wall. Nine people are killed.

March 2, 2006. Karachi, Pakistan again. Suicide bomber attacks the U.S. Consulate killing four people, including U.S. diplomat David Foy who was directly targeted by the attackers. (I wonder if Lindsey Graham or Fox News would even recognize the name “David Foy.” This is the third Karachi terrorist attack in four years on what’s considered American soil.)

September 12, 2006. Damascus, Syria. Four armed gunmen shouting “Allahu akbar” storm the U.S. Embassy using grenades, automatic weapons, a car bomb and a truck bomb. Four people are killed, 13 are wounded.

January 12, 2007. Athens, Greece. Members of a Greek terrorist group called the Revolutionary Struggle fire a rocket-propelled grenade at the U.S. Embassy. No fatalities.

March 18, 2008. Sana’a, Yemen. Members of the al-Qaida-linked Islamic Jihad of Yemen fire a mortar at the U.S. Embassy. The shot misses the embassy, but hits nearby school killing two.

July 9, 2008. Istanbul, Turkey. Four armed terrorists attack the U.S. Consulate. Six people are killed.

September 17, 2008. Sana’a, Yemen. Terrorists dressed as military officials attack the U.S. Embassy with an arsenal of weapons including RPGs and detonate two car bombs. Sixteen people are killed, including an American student and her husband (they had been married for three weeks when the attack occurred). This is the second attack on this embassy in seven months.

Synth, bad things happen during every administration. The difference here is this administration was lying, covering up, and stonewalling Congressional investigations.

This administration lied that they were kicking al Qaeda's ass when in fact they were barely making a dent.
This administration lied that they were deporting more illegals than any administration before when in fact they changed the way they counted deportations to get this increase.
This administration allowed an ambassador to be murdered and then covered up the real cause by inventing a story about protests over a video, and now we have the proof.
This administration lied for 3 years that we could keep our health care and our doctor after the ACA went into effect.

This administration has lied to us and deceived us at every turn. They lied so they could win re-election and they have become unworthy of any amount of trust. Even the Russians know that nothing Obama says can be counted on, so he feels that if Obama threatens him over military aggression in the Ukraine, warning repeatedly that there will be consequences, he knows Obama is lying.


Obama talks loudly and carries a toothpick, and everyone in the world knows it, even better than Americans know it. One thing everyone could count on before Obama, regardless what everyone thought of America you could reasonably assume our president doing what he says. Now, everyone knows he's full of crap. Our enemies don't have to worry and our friends can't count on him. We're a laughingstock because of this man. The fact that we re-elected him reflects on the judgement of the American people......that is if the election was legit in the first place, which is highly questionable.

 

[TemplarKormac]

It doesn't bother me because that's not what happened. You simply believe that it did, when it didn't.

the pretend rabbi is also a compulsive liar.

ask him where he and the other nutters were during baby bush's 13 benghazis with their 50 dead.

oh wait....

13 Benghazis Happened Under President Bush and Fox News Said Nothing - PolicyMic


January 22, 2002. Calcutta, India. Gunmen associated with Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami attack the U.S. Consulate. Five people are killed.

June 14, 2002. Karachi, Pakistan. Suicide bomber connected with al-Qaida attacks the U.S. Consulate, killing 12 and injuring 51.

October 12, 2002. Denpasar, Indonesia. U.S. diplomatic offices bombed as part of a string of “Bali Bombings.” No fatalities.

February 28, 2003. Islamabad, Pakistan. Several gunmen fire upon the U.S. Embassy. Two people are killed.

May 12, 2003. Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Armed al-Qaida terrorists storm the diplomatic compound killing 36 people including nine Americans. The assailants committed suicide by detonating a truck bomb.

July 30, 2004. Tashkent, Uzbekistan. A suicide bomber from the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan attacks the U.S. Embassy, killing two people.

December 6, 2004. Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Al-Qaida terrorists storm the U.S. Consulate and occupy the perimeter wall. Nine people are killed.

March 2, 2006. Karachi, Pakistan again. Suicide bomber attacks the U.S. Consulate killing four people, including U.S. diplomat David Foy who was directly targeted by the attackers. (I wonder if Lindsey Graham or Fox News would even recognize the name “David Foy.” This is the third Karachi terrorist attack in four years on what’s considered American soil.)

September 12, 2006. Damascus, Syria. Four armed gunmen shouting “Allahu akbar” storm the U.S. Embassy using grenades, automatic weapons, a car bomb and a truck bomb. Four people are killed, 13 are wounded.

January 12, 2007. Athens, Greece. Members of a Greek terrorist group called the Revolutionary Struggle fire a rocket-propelled grenade at the U.S. Embassy. No fatalities.

March 18, 2008. Sana’a, Yemen. Members of the al-Qaida-linked Islamic Jihad of Yemen fire a mortar at the U.S. Embassy. The shot misses the embassy, but hits nearby school killing two.

July 9, 2008. Istanbul, Turkey. Four armed terrorists attack the U.S. Consulate. Six people are killed.

September 17, 2008. Sana’a, Yemen. Terrorists dressed as military officials attack the U.S. Embassy with an arsenal of weapons including RPGs and detonate two car bombs. Sixteen people are killed, including an American student and her husband (they had been married for three weeks when the attack occurred). This is the second attack on this embassy in seven months.

Sure, only 4 Americans in total died in all of those incidents. So it took 13 times under Bush to kill 4 Americans. It took Obama only one, not only that, he lied about it. We're speaking strictly of American casualties here. Let other countries mourn their own dead. This little piece has been outrightly debunked many times over.

By the way, I subscribe to PolicyMic on my Facebook feed. They are a far left news organization. Some of their stories (like this one) are patently outrageous.

 

[JoeB131]

I can't wait until 2016 so that the cons will finally stop ranting about benghazi

A rant is the exact word. That's all they have.

No, we hae the truth: the Obama White House lied to protect their re-election chances.
Obama lied, people died.

Okay, you see, the problem with that logic is that the discussion of talking points AFTER Stevens died had no effect on whether he was dead or not.

Oh, yeah, and the guys who did it have said they totally did it because they were pissed about the video.


But don't let that stop you.

 

[Theowl32]

A rant is the exact word. That's all they have.

No, we hae the truth: the Obama White House lied to protect their re-election chances.
Obama lied, people died.

Okay, you see, the problem with that logic is that the discussion of talking points AFTER Stevens died had no effect on whether he was dead or not.

Oh, yeah, and the guys who did it have said they totally did it because they were pissed about the video.


But don't let that stop you.

 

[mudwhistle]

A rant is the exact word. That's all they have.

No, we hae the truth: the Obama White House lied to protect their re-election chances.
Obama lied, people died.

Okay, you see, the problem with that logic is that the discussion of talking points AFTER Stevens died had no effect on whether he was dead or not.

Oh, yeah, and the guys who did it have said they totally did it because they were pissed about the video.


But don't let that stop you.

Nixon got hammered for the coverup, not the act. Nixon had nothing to do with Watergate till he tried to cover it up after the fact. Scooter Libby got jail time because he was nailed on a process crime, i.e. coverup.

Obama didn't want to risk looking bad before the election. Well, honestly, he hates ever looking bad, so basically, nothing he says can be trusted. It appears like he fudged the numbers on Obamacare and he fudged the unemployment numbers in the last employment report before the election. This Benghazi coverup is just one of many. The IRS, NSA, BLM, EPA, the VA, and how many other agencies have covered up what they are doing?

 

[JoeB131]

[

Nixon got hammered for the coverup, not the act. Nixon had nothing to do with Watergate till he tried to cover it up after the fact. Scooter Libby got jail time because he was nailed on a process crime, i.e. coverup.

Obama didn't want to risk looking bad before the election. Well, honestly, he hates ever looking bad, so basically, nothing he says can be trusted. It appears like he fudged the numbers on Obamacare and he fudged the unemployment numbers in the last employment report before the election. This Benghazi coverup is just one of many. The IRS, NSA, BLM, EPA, the VA, and how many other agencies have covered up what they are doing?

You mean openly discussing what they are doing and what the decision making process was.

The whole argument of this thread is that before they went to press, everyone in the white house staff had an opinion on what had just happened and what role this video played.

But please try to comfort yourself that you lost 2012 because people were "fooled", and not because the country took one good hard look at the Mormon Cultist you were trying to foist on us and said, "Fuck that!"

 

[gipper]

No, we hae the truth: the Obama White House lied to protect their re-election chances.
Obama lied, people died.

Okay, you see, the problem with that logic is that the discussion of talking points AFTER Stevens died had no effect on whether he was dead or not.

Oh, yeah, and the guys who did it have said they totally did it because they were pissed about the video.


But don't let that stop you.

Nixon got hammered for the coverup, not the act. Nixon had nothing to do with Watergate till he tried to cover it up after the fact. Scooter Libby got jail time because he was nailed on a process crime, i.e. coverup.

Obama didn't want to risk looking bad before the election. Well, honestly, he hates ever looking bad, so basically, nothing he says can be trusted. It appears like he fudged the numbers on Obamacare and he fudged the unemployment numbers in the last employment report before the election. This Benghazi coverup is just one of many. The IRS, NSA, BLM, EPA, the VA, and how many other agencies have covered up what they are doing?

Agreed.

If Big Ears were an R and did these things, he would have been impeached and removed from office by now. But since the Rs are not really an opposing party and the MSM is BO's communications department, nothing is done.

 

[NoNukes]

It doesn't bother me because that's not what happened. You simply believe that it did, when it didn't.

the pretend rabbi is also a compulsive liar.

ask him where he and the other nutters were during baby bush's 13 benghazis with their 50 dead.

oh wait....

Hey, Bush was a Republican. And White.

 

[mudwhistle]

[

Nixon got hammered for the coverup, not the act. Nixon had nothing to do with Watergate till he tried to cover it up after the fact. Scooter Libby got jail time because he was nailed on a process crime, i.e. coverup.

Obama didn't want to risk looking bad before the election. Well, honestly, he hates ever looking bad, so basically, nothing he says can be trusted. It appears like he fudged the numbers on Obamacare and he fudged the unemployment numbers in the last employment report before the election. This Benghazi coverup is just one of many. The IRS, NSA, BLM, EPA, the VA, and how many other agencies have covered up what they are doing?

You mean openly discussing what they are doing and what the decision making process was.

The whole argument of this thread is that before they went to press, everyone in the white house staff had an opinion on what had just happened and what role this video played.

But please try to comfort yourself that you lost 2012 because people were "fooled", and not because the country took one good hard look at the Mormon Cultist you were trying to foist on us and said, "Fuck that!"

Oh, so damn the facts because the facts don't matter to you because of your bigotry.

Duly noted.


This is what today's liberal is all about. A double-standard on bigotry. It's not that you discriminate, it's who you discriminate against that matters. Some people get a free pass while others get hammered, their lives ruined.

 

[mudwhistle]

It doesn't bother me because that's not what happened. You simply believe that it did, when it didn't.

the pretend rabbi is also a compulsive liar.

ask him where he and the other nutters were during baby bush's 13 benghazis with their 50 dead.

oh wait....

This must be the lib talking point. 13 Benghazis.

BTW, how many Wacos did Bush have?

Obama came close to having one. Where's Bush's Waco?

 

[JoeB131]

[q

Oh, so damn the facts because the facts don't matter to you because of your bigotry.

Duly noted.


This is what today's liberal is all about. A double-standard on bigotry. It's not that you discriminate, it's who you discriminate against that matters. Some people get a free pass while others get hammered, their lives ruined.

It's not "discrimination", it's a value judgement.

If Mitt Romney thinks he's wearing magic underwear, dark skin is a curse from God, Ancient america was inhabited by Hebrews and he's going to rule a planet in the afterlife, these are all pretty damned silly beliefs, and I honestly have to question his judgement and reasoning skills. I certainly didn't want him anywhere near the nuclear weapons.

Not to mention the guy showed nothing but contempt for working folks like me with comments like

"Corporations are people'
"I like to fire people"
"47% are moochers because they don't pay taxes"
"It's really awesome that these Chinese women were behind barbed wire, 120 to a toilet, making me money".

THAT'S what America saw in Mitt Romney, and those not obsessed with Obama's skin tone were kind of horrified by it.

 

[TemplarKormac]

It doesn't bother me because that's not what happened. You simply believe that it did, when it didn't.

the pretend rabbi is also a compulsive liar.

ask him where he and the other nutters were during baby bush's 13 benghazis with their 50 dead.

oh wait....

Hey, Bush was a Republican. And White.

And? What does him being white have to do with anything?

 

[TemplarKormac]

[q

Oh, so damn the facts because the facts don't matter to you because of your bigotry.

Duly noted.


This is what today's liberal is all about. A double-standard on bigotry. It's not that you discriminate, it's who you discriminate against that matters. Some people get a free pass while others get hammered, their lives ruined.

It's not "discrimination", it's a value judgement.

If Mitt Romney thinks he's wearing magic underwear, dark skin is a curse from God, Ancient america was inhabited by Hebrews and he's going to rule a planet in the afterlife, these are all pretty damned silly beliefs, and I honestly have to question his judgement and reasoning skills. I certainly didn't want him anywhere near the nuclear weapons.

Not to mention the guy showed nothing but contempt for working folks like me with comments like

"Corporations are people'
"I like to fire people"
"47% are moochers because they don't pay taxes"
"It's really awesome that these Chinese women were behind barbed wire, 120 to a toilet, making me money".

THAT'S what America saw in Mitt Romney, and those not obsessed with Obama's skin tone were kind of horrified by it.

All you're doing is deflecting. Shucking and jiving. None of this changes the fact that the Obama Administration played a part in this coverup. They. Lied.

You wanted Reagan to be guilty in the Iran Contra Scandal, right? So if Reagan was responsible for the people under his leadership, so is Obama in regards to this matter. Obama is either an incompetent leader, or ignored completely the actions of his staff.

You have zero cred, man.

 

[mudwhistle]

[q

Oh, so damn the facts because the facts don't matter to you because of your bigotry.

Duly noted.


This is what today's liberal is all about. A double-standard on bigotry. It's not that you discriminate, it's who you discriminate against that matters. Some people get a free pass while others get hammered, their lives ruined.

It's not "discrimination", it's a value judgement.

If Mitt Romney thinks he's wearing magic underwear, dark skin is a curse from God, Ancient america was inhabited by Hebrews and he's going to rule a planet in the afterlife, these are all pretty damned silly beliefs, and I honestly have to question his judgement and reasoning skills. I certainly didn't want him anywhere near the nuclear weapons.

Not to mention the guy showed nothing but contempt for working folks like me with comments like

"Corporations are people'
"I like to fire people"
"47% are moochers because they don't pay taxes"
"It's really awesome that these Chinese women were behind barbed wire, 120 to a toilet, making me money".

THAT'S what America saw in Mitt Romney, and those not obsessed with Obama's skin tone were kind of horrified by it.

It's not a value judgement, which is a prevarication. It is bigotry.

 

[Theowl32]

[q

Oh, so damn the facts because the facts don't matter to you because of your bigotry.

Duly noted.


This is what today's liberal is all about. A double-standard on bigotry. It's not that you discriminate, it's who you discriminate against that matters. Some people get a free pass while others get hammered, their lives ruined.

It's not "discrimination", it's a value judgement.

If Mitt Romney thinks he's wearing magic underwear, dark skin is a curse from God, Ancient america was inhabited by Hebrews and he's going to rule a planet in the afterlife, these are all pretty damned silly beliefs, and I honestly have to question his judgement and reasoning skills. I certainly didn't want him anywhere near the nuclear weapons.

Not to mention the guy showed nothing but contempt for working folks like me with comments like

"Corporations are people'
"I like to fire people"
"47% are moochers because they don't pay taxes"
"It's really awesome that these Chinese women were behind barbed wire, 120 to a toilet, making me money".

THAT'S what America saw in Mitt Romney, and those not obsessed with Obama's skin tone were kind of horrified by it.

All you're doing is deflecting. Shucking and jiving. None of this changes the fact that the Obama Administration played a part in this coverup. They. Lied.

You wanted Reagan to be guilty in the Iran Contra Scandal, right? So if Reagan was responsible for the people under his leadership, so is Obama in regards to this matter. Obama is either an incompetent leader, or ignored completely the actions of his staff.

You have zero cred, man.

Yeah, the funny thing is how he thinks he does. Typical left winger.

 

[NoNukes]

the pretend rabbi is also a compulsive liar.

ask him where he and the other nutters were during baby bush's 13 benghazis with their 50 dead.

oh wait....

Hey, Bush was a Republican. And White.

And? What does him being white have to do with anything?

Hatred

 

[The Rabbi]

A rant is the exact word. That's all they have.

No, we hae the truth: the Obama White House lied to protect their re-election chances.
Obama lied, people died.

You can't even come up with your own slogans. How lame is that?

If you think your pathetic attempts to use Benghazi as a way to hurt the Democrats or to put the skids on Hillary will actually have some effect, you are sadly mistaken. And besides, is Benghazi all ya got??? Other than Hillary is a lesbian? That's fucking lame too dude...

You're not bothered that the Obama White House fabricated a story they knew to be false and sent Rice out to sell it in order to bolster Obama's re-election chances? How sad is that?