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United States GDP Growth Rate
Recession of 1947-8 had 3.1% decline in GDP, followed by strong growth, about 15%
1960 had only 1.7% decline, followed by less strong growth
73-75 had 3.2% decline, followed by nearly 10% growth
81-81 saw 2.7% decline followed by 8% growth
This one had a 5% decline and has been followed by 3.5% max growth.
Which one is the oddball in this picture?
Here:
United States GDP Growth Rate
Recession of 1947-8 had 3.1% decline in GDP, followed by strong growth, about 15%
1960 had only 1.7% decline, followed by less strong growth
73-75 had 3.2% decline, followed by nearly 10% growth
81-81 saw 2.7% decline followed by 8% growth
This one had a 5% decline and has been followed by 3.5% max growth.
Which one is the oddball in this picture?
All of those recessions occurred while the safeguards created by the Roosevelt administration were still in place.
Which is why none of those recessions were as dramatic as the one that just passed.
Which, I believe, is the point here.
Therefore, to make any historic comparison, one must go back to 1929 and before.
Home prices are still falling.....
By Ezra Klein
In the graph atop this post, I ran the numbers on total government employment after the 1981, 1990, 2001 and 2008 recessions. I made government employment on the eve of the recession equal to 1, so what youre seeing is total change in the ensuing 54 months, which is how much time has elapsed since the start of this recession.
Since Obama was elected, the public sector has lost about 600,000 jobs. If you put those jobs back, the unemployment rate would be 7.8 percent.
But what if we did more than that? At this point in George W. Bushs administration, public-sector employment had grown by 3.7 percent. That would be equal to a bit over 800,000 jobs today. If you add those hypothetical jobs, the unemployment rate falls to 7.3 percent.
Today, Ben Polak, chairman of the economics department at Yale University, and Peter K. Schott, professor of economics at the Yale School of Management, widen the lens, with similar results:
Without this hidden austerity program, the economy would look very different. If state and local governments had followed the pattern of the previous two recessions, they would have added 1.4 million to 1.9 million jobs and overall unemployment would be 7.0 to 7.3 percent instead of 8.2 percent.
Here:
United States GDP Growth Rate
Recession of 1947-8 had 3.1% decline in GDP, followed by strong growth, about 15%
1960 had only 1.7% decline, followed by less strong growth
73-75 had 3.2% decline, followed by nearly 10% growth
81-81 saw 2.7% decline followed by 8% growth
This one had a 5% decline and has been followed by 3.5% max growth.
Which one is the oddball in this picture?
All of those recessions occurred while the safeguards created by the Roosevelt administration were still in place.
Which is why none of those recessions were as dramatic as the one that just passed.
Which, I believe, is the point here.
Therefore, to make any historic comparison, one must go back to 1929 and before.
Wrong.
Tell me what was different between the 1980 recession and this one. Or the one in 2000.
The derivatives bubble goes even deeper than this. Personal retirement accounts were not the only investors hit.
Insurance companies make most of their profits from investments, not premiums. So when they lost their asses when the derivatives bubble popped, guess what happened to insurance premiums?
College endowment funds make their money from investments. So when they lost their asses when the derivatives bubble popped, guess what happened to tuition and scholarships?
Public pensions depend on a decent return on investment to meet their future outlays. So when they lost their asses when the derivatives bubble popped, guess what happened to public pension funds and their ability to keep their promises?
Your pocket was picked six ways to Sunday by Wall Street and its derivatives bubble.
How do we fix it?
1. Repeal FSMA of 1999 and the CFMA of 2000.
2. Regulate CDS the same way insurance is regulated, and ban naked CDS outright. A buyer of CDS must establish an insurable interest.
3. Require OTC derivatives to be traded on a public exchange.
Wall Street will fight this tooth and nail, of course. That last one particularly bites into their profits because the current structure prevents a price point from being established, which means they can rape the living shit out of their clients. It also means they have to put up collateral for every deal they make, thus making defaulting on a triggered credit event less likely. Which is as it should be.
Half the GOP, 20% of the USA, now believe Obama started this mess. So STOOOPID!
All of those recessions occurred while the safeguards created by the Roosevelt administration were still in place.
Which is why none of those recessions were as dramatic as the one that just passed.
Which, I believe, is the point here.
Therefore, to make any historic comparison, one must go back to 1929 and before.
Wrong.
Tell me what was different between the 1980 recession and this one. Or the one in 2000.
This one had a NINE per cent economic retraction, even with 2 trillion in bailouts and stimulus, and is WORLDWIDE. Super job, pubbies! Pub dupes...
Half the GOP, 20% of the USA, now believe Obama started this mess. So STOOOPID!
By all means go ahead.
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1873
1929
The sharper the recession, the sharper the recovery. We should have had a great recovery with UE about 6% by now and GDP growth north of 4%.
"Should have" according to what metric? Something you just pulled out of your ass?
Here:
United States GDP Growth Rate
Recession of 1947-8 had 3.1% decline in GDP, followed by strong growth, about 15%
1960 had only 1.7% decline, followed by less strong growth
73-75 had 3.2% decline, followed by nearly 10% growth
81-81 saw 2.7% decline followed by 8% growth
This one had a 5% decline and has been followed by 3.5% max growth.
Which one is the oddball in this picture?
By all means go ahead.
1839
1873
1929
The sharper the recession, the sharper the recovery. We should have had a great recovery with UE about 6% by now and GDP growth north of 4%.
"Should have" according to what metric? Something you just pulled out of your ass?
Here:
United States GDP Growth Rate
Recession of 1947-8 had 3.1% decline in GDP, followed by strong growth, about 15%
1960 had only 1.7% decline, followed by less strong growth
73-75 had 3.2% decline, followed by nearly 10% growth
81-81 saw 2.7% decline followed by 8% growth
This one had a 5% decline and has been followed by 3.5% max growth.
Which one is the oddball in this picture?