Neo-Communists, Answer Me This

[Titanic Sailor]

are you holding your breath? I hope so.



He thinks our government is killing our nation. Like the rest of us.

 

[Douger]

I guess I need to post this every day.............................
Idiocracy............
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3L1uZ3Chtg]YouTube - Steppenwolf MONSTER 2008[/ame]

 

[Titanic Sailor]

I disagree Richey-rich, from TARP support, to porkulus, to raising the debt ceiling, to letting Obama off the hook for his campaign pledge to fix Bush.

Not only did he NOT fix Bush, he blew past Bush's fiscal errors.

Now we have to worry about fixing Bush and Obama. If you tell me any of Obama's actions or spending were necessary you are a complete liar, so don't bring it here. You and that Mascale dude just go do some shrooms and veg out in the woods somewhere away from the innocent humans.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

are you holding your breath? I hope so.



He thinks our government is killing our nation. Like the rest of us.

Is that so? Did he tell you that? Or are you projecting a little bit?


You know that he is a supporter of Romney-Care, right?

 

[Toro]

Agreed - the degree of spending, the move to greatly enhance the size and scope of the federal government...they have taken some of the worst aspects of Bush Inc. and doubled down on them to a degree unseen by almost all Americans living today...

How has Obama expanded the size and scope of the federal government? Don't say healthcare, that hasn't happened yet. Don't say C&T either, that also hasn't happened yet.

What has Obama done so far to "greatly enhance the size and scope of the federal government"?

Most of that is because of

1.) a falling economy and
2.) automatic stabilizers built into the budgeting process by law

In other words, that chart would have soared if Obama had not spent a single dime more.

Its also important to know that nearly half of the stimulus dispersed thus far have been in the form of tax cuts, not government spending, though government spending will ramp up this year.

 

[Toro]

Record Shows Obama Was on Board With TARP in September, and Every Bit As Socialist As He Claims Bush Was


...That's great, except for one "little" thing: John Kerry, clearly speaking for the Obama campaign, told Chris Wallace on Fox News on September 28 of last year (HT to BizzyBlog commenter Joe C) that at the time of the first TARP deal that the bailout followed his template:

..... the four principal components of this deal, Chris, represent the exact four principles that Senator Obama laid out two weeks ago. They represent the exact principles that we put forward and almost agreed on last Thursday before politics entered into this.

Record Shows Obama Was on Board With TARP in September, and Every Bit As Socialist As He Claims Bush Was | NewsBusters.org


Next Time the Obama Administration blames TARP on Bush....

Remember this:


Senator Obama voted for TARP
Ben Bernanke, Tim Geithner, and Henry Paulson wrote it
Obama appointed


The Clue Batting Cage: Next Time the Obama Administration blames TARP on Bush....

Why would the Obama Administration "blame" Bush? The TARP was originated within the Bush government, and Bush gets most of the credit for Saving the World. There is little doubt in my mind that had TARP not been passed, The Great Depression 2.0 was in the cards.

 

[Toro]

Liberal how? I was a volunteer and voted for him. Gay marriage and choice do not define liberalism.

I agree, but it excludes him from the evangelical wing of the Republican party, and makes him almost unelectable anywhere in Republican strongholds.

 

[Douger]

This is confusing.
I elaborated on the REAL problem.

The only thing I have seen worth while is " kill all the bankers"

 

[Richard-H]

The incredible thing about the anti-TARP posters is that they accuse people who supported TARP of being socialist - what a bunch of fucking morons!

I realize that the concept of 'cause and effect' is beyond these people.

I got news for you - if it wasn't for TARP this country's banking system would have been socialized by now.

Did you ever stop to think what would have happened if the entire banking system collapsed?

The entire economy would have come to a dead stop, nothing like it has occured since the fall of Rome and the dawn of the dark ages. A humanitarian disaster, way, way beyond biblical proportions would have occured

There is NO WAY IN HELL that the competitive system could have replaced the financial system fast enough - we couldn't afford 15-25 years of mass starvation. A collapsed world-wide financial system isn't going to magically rejuvenate itself over night.

So the only option would have been for the government to step in and offer banking & financial services directly to the people - socialization of the banking system.

DUMB ASSES!!!!

 

[☭proletarian☭]

Man, since I left yesterday, it's like there are five noobs sounding exactly the same all over USMB.