Neo-Communists, Answer Me This

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    What's changed? Does an increase in the level of corruption, government spending, extremely poor bills, pork spending, unemployment, foreclosures, and poverty constitute the change you wanted?

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    Gee, thanks from an American.
     
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    Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
     
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    Same level of corruption. No more, no less.
    Same level of spending, just on different things.
    Same as before. No change here either
    Same as before.
    It's getting better
    I didn't expect, or really want change. I expected more of the same, slightly closer to my own views, and that's exactly what I got.

    You're welcome.

    You guys are going to have to come up with new rhetoric. In one thread all the Cons talk about how Obama is the same as Bush, and then in other threads all the Cons talk about how Obama is the most far-left liberal ever.

    You can't have it both ways.

    I voted for Obama, and I didn't expect radical change - I expected exactly what we got. A more-to-the-left version of the status quo. I think that you'll find a vast majority of people who voted for Obama didn't expect radical change either. I think most everyone who voted for Obama expected exactly what they're getting. Maybe we didn't expect such partisanship from the Republicans, but we really should have.
     
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    Uhh.. spending is MORE... unemployment and the economy are not getting any better from the spending and policies of this administration and DEM controlled congress

    But the rest I would not go out of my way to disagree with
     
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    Agreed - the degree of spending, the move to greatly enhance the size and scope of the federal government...they have taken some of the worst aspects of Bush Inc. and doubled down on them to a degree unseen by almost all Americans living today...
     
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    Yes, Obama's budgets and future plans include more spending than Bush, and those before. But that money hasn't been spent yet. In terms of money spent so far, Obama has not spent more than Bush, or any other president before.

    And I don't give the government super-powers - Obama didn't cause this recession, (and no, I'm not going to blame it on Bush either). The current unemployment rate, economy, etc, were caused by many factors, and Obama's stimulus plans that haven't even gone into effect yet haven't changed anything. Overall, the trend says that the economy is getting back on its feet - whether that is because of anything Obama did, I'll leave that to the economists.
     
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    How has Obama expanded the size and scope of the federal government? Don't say healthcare, that hasn't happened yet. Don't say C&T either, that also hasn't happened yet.

    What has Obama done so far to "greatly enhance the size and scope of the federal government"?
     
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    That line at the end was due to Tarp - on Bush's watch. Try again...
     

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