Need clarification: Do we have a right to do with our bodies what we want, or not?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by bucs90, Jul 14, 2011.

  1. bucs90
    Offline

    bucs90 Gold Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2010
    Messages:
    26,548
    Thanks Received:
    5,995
    Trophy Points:
    280
    Ratings:
    +19,210
    Is it a basic right to do what we wish with our bodies? I have 3 examples.

    Abortion: The left wing and pro-abortion crowd argue a woman has a right to do what she wants with her body. So that leads me to......

    Obamacare: If we have a right to do what we want with our body, do we thus have a right to leave our body uninsured? If I have a right to kill a growing child inside me...surely I have a right to simply not insure my body, right? Which leads to.....

    Assisted suicide: It's illegal. But should it be? If I have a right to have a doctor kill a growing baby inside me because I don't want it....shouldn't I have the right to have him assist with killing myself, since I don't want my life? Or does the government have so much power over our bodies that it can not only force us to insure it, but enact the ultimate life insurance in banning you from killing yourself???



    Just couldn't help but ask. But particularly the abortion/insurance question. It's my body. I can do what I want with my body, right? If so, why can't I allow my body to be uninsured?
     
  2. zzzz
    Offline

    zzzz Just a regular American

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2010
    Messages:
    3,072
    Thanks Received:
    422
    Trophy Points:
    98
    Location:
    Yountsville
    Ratings:
    +429
    Clarification: Once a child is formed inside your body you no longer have a exclusive rights to your body. As to when life begins ...
     
  3. editec
    Offline

    editec Mr. Forgot-it-All

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2008
    Messages:
    41,427
    Thanks Received:
    5,598
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    Maine
    Ratings:
    +5,618
    Clearly not.


     
  4. idb
    Offline

    idb Gold Member

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2010
    Messages:
    10,559
    Thanks Received:
    1,154
    Trophy Points:
    245
    Location:
    Arrowtown, New Zealand
    Ratings:
    +2,801
    Yes and yes.
    Certainly on the face of it you should be able to opt out of care and life if you choose.

    I wouldn't want your dead or dying body lying in my street though.
     
  5. jillian
    Offline

    jillian Princess Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2006
    Messages:
    69,557
    Thanks Received:
    13,012
    Trophy Points:
    2,220
    Location:
    The Other Side of Paradise
    Ratings:
    +22,434
    it's a terrible analogy. one is about exercising dominion over one's body (to a point); the other requires monetary investment... same as taxes or insuring one's motor vehicle. it does NOT require that one allow any medical procedures that one doesn't consent to or forego procedures that one wants.
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
  6. Moonglow
    Offline

    Moonglow Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2011
    Messages:
    82,000
    Thanks Received:
    8,037
    Trophy Points:
    2,070
    Location:
    sw mizzouri
    Ratings:
    +29,621
    refuse medical services all your life? I doubt you could do that.
     
  7. idb
    Offline

    idb Gold Member

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2010
    Messages:
    10,559
    Thanks Received:
    1,154
    Trophy Points:
    245
    Location:
    Arrowtown, New Zealand
    Ratings:
    +2,801
    Ok, to clarify, opting out of medical care should be a right, but not if it means an imposition on others.
    Pardon my brutal scenario.
     
  8. pete
    Offline

    pete The food stamp president

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2008
    Messages:
    1,581
    Thanks Received:
    232
    Trophy Points:
    98
    Ratings:
    +232
    To the car ins point ... but if you pay all year and have no claim why do we not get a refund. They definitely well if wisely invested made a huge profit from customers payments. Legal gambling?
    Political payback just like a credit check for auto ins .... then they escalate over the years and at some point get out of control and it becomes a huge expense to fight and change down the road after we see our mistakes ... next up shit stain care
     
  9. DaGoose
    Offline

    DaGoose Gold Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2010
    Messages:
    4,347
    Thanks Received:
    655
    Trophy Points:
    153
    Location:
    Illinois
    Ratings:
    +676
    On abortion: It's more than "my body, my right" (although that's part of it), it's also whether we want government intervention in a decision that should only be between a woman and her doctor. Unless your the woman or her doctor you should simply stay out of it.

    On Obamacare: This goes to whether or not you have a right to push YOUR medical costs onto the rest of us. If you do not have medical insurance, and can't pay your bill, then you force the rest of us to pay for your care. So then your question becomes: Do I have a right to shirk my responsibility and make everyone else pay for my medical care? (Of course, this only applies if you can afford insurance but choose not to buy it.)

    On Euthanasia: I agree totally. Once again this is between the doctor and patient.

    .
     
    Last edited: Jul 14, 2011
  10. jillian
    Offline

    jillian Princess Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2006
    Messages:
    69,557
    Thanks Received:
    13,012
    Trophy Points:
    2,220
    Location:
    The Other Side of Paradise
    Ratings:
    +22,434
    we're all imposed upon. it's part of living in a society. i was imposed upon having my tax dollars used to wage two wars that should never have happened. and to be fair, we're the only "westernized" society that doesn't take care of the health needs of its people.
     

Share This Page