Nebraska nuclear power plant problems

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    Claims and counterclaims at the moment. Hope this is not for real.:eusa_pray:

    Nebraska Nuclear Plant at Level 4 Emergency | Hawai`i News Daily

    The Fort Calhoun, Nebraska, Nuclear power plant is going down fast due to massive flooding.

    The Omaha Public Power District has declared a Notification of Unusual Event (NOUE).

    The FAA has issued the following directive, shutting down airspace over the plant:

    FDC 1/6523 ZMP FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS FORT CALHOUN NUCLEAR POWER PLANT BLAIR,NE EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE. PURSUANT TO 14 CFR SECTION 91.137(A)(3) TEMPORARY FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS ARE IN EFFECT FOR FLOOD RELIEF EFFORTS WITHIN A 2 NAUTICAL MILE RADIUS OF 413113N/0960438W OR THE OMAHA /OVR/ VORTAC 316 DEGREE RADIAL AT 26.1 NAUTICAL MILES AT AND BELOW 3500 FEET MSL. NEBRASKA STATE PATROL, LT. FRANK PECK TELEPHONE 402-450-1867 IS IN CHARGE OF THE OPERATION. MINNEAPOLIS /ZMP/ ARTCC TELEPHONE 651-463-5580 IS THE FAA COORDINATION FACILITY.
     
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    Not to worry- it's just the first NOUE.

    Merry Chrishmush everbuddy.
     
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    I wonder if the Nebraska News Daily is reporting on Volcanic Activity in Hawaii?

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    This would have never happened if only we'd had a government mandate that forces everyone to use candles for lighting, horse and buggy for travel, and telegraphs instead of phones and computers....
     
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    Flood Rumor Control - Omaha Public Power District

    Flood Rumor Control

    Following are responses to flood-related rumors that OPPD has heard about.

    Rumor: Fort Calhoun Nuclear Station is at a Level 4 emergency or level 4 alert.

    This terminology is not accurate, and is not how emergencies at nuclear power plants are classified.
    Fort Calhoun Station (FCS) declared a Notification of Unusual Event (NOUE) on June 6.
    A NOUE is the least-serious of four emergency classifications established by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission.
    FCS declared a NOUE because the Missouri River was projected to reach 1,004 feet above mean sea level. (It reached that height on June 9.)
    The FCS plant’s reactor has been in cold shut down for a planned refueling outage since April 9. It will remain in that condition until the river recedes.
    The reactor and spent-fuel pool are in a normal, stable condition and are both protected; there has been no release of radioactivity and none is expected.
    Rumor: A no-fly zone was set up around Fort Calhoun Nuclear Station because of a release of radiation, similar to what happened with the Fukushima reactors in Japan.

    There has been no release of radioactivity at Fort Calhoun Station due to the flooding and none is expected.
    The flight restrictions were set up by the FAA as a result of Missouri river flooding.
    OPPD’s extensive, preplanned actions to protect the FCS reactor and spent-fuel pool from the floodwaters have been effective.
    The reactor is housed in a watertight containment building, and is in a normal and safe “cold shutdown” condition, covered by more than 23 feet of purified reactor coolant water.
    In addition, OPPD has installed Aqua Dams® and other berms around such vital equipment and buildings at the FCS site.
     
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    Wow OldRocks!!

    I'm impressed.. :clap2:

    You shut down that nasty rumor yourself. I'd be po'ed about the embarassment I suffered at tthe hands of an unscrupulous "news" site like that.
     
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    It always helps to have a bit more information.

    Sometimes level four is extremely bad, sometimes it is trivia.

    What we had was folks who didn't know what they were talking about trying to scare folks with with less than complete information.
     
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    Well, the first site obviously did not like nuclear. And the second site seems to have understated the problem in my opinion.

    You see, why on earth would they have to sandbag a nuke plant on a known flood plain? Think about it a moment. Why was there not a permanent barrier put in at the time of construction? After all, these floods occur about every 100 years. And they had one nearly this high in 1994. So why no permanent flood wall? The other point is putting vulneble electric gear at a level that a flood could actually damage it. Again, this is a known problem for the region. Poor engineering, to say the least.
     
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    Nebraska Nuclear Plant Faces Rising River - National - The Atlantic Wire

    Seems there are plenty of rumors we should be leery of too.

    Rumors

    3 days ago, however, it was claimed that the Obama administration has ordered a news blackout over Fort Calhoun.

    Alas, that report is the handiwork of the exotically named Sorcha Faal, the nom de plume of David Booth. Often claiming some exclusive anonymous Russian government/military source that cannot be verified and is not reported anywhere else, Faal is a notorious purveyor of faux news. S/he invents them out of whole cloth.

    That doesn't mean there are no legitimate concerns though.

    In 2010, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) conducted an inspection of Fort Calhoun Station (FCS) and found that the plant did not have adequate procedures to protect the intake structure and auxiliary building against external flooding events. Specifically, contrary to Technical Specification 5.8.1.a, the station failed to maintain procedures for combating a significant flood as recommended by Regulatory Guide 1.33, Appendix A, section 6.w, “Acts of Nature.”

    Looking for information on Fort Calhoun, I found this disconcerting piece of news by ketv.com last April 1, 2011:
    Fort Calhoun's Nuclear Plant Under Scrutiny - Omaha News Story - KETV Omaha

    “Fort Calhoun’s nuclear power plant is one of three reactors across the country that federal regulators said they are most concerned about. Nuclear Regulatory Commission officials said Fort Calhoun’s reactor is operating safely, but it’s still on the shortlist because they want to make sure it’s prepared to handle major emergencies, like flooding. Last year, federal regulators questioned the station’s flood protection protocol. NRC officials said they felt the Omaha Public Power District should do more than sandbagging in the event of major flooding along the Missouri river.”

    According to ketv.com, “OPPD officials said they have already made amends and added new flood gates.”

    We can only hope that OPPD indeed had addressed the Nuclear Regulatory Commission’s concerns and did make those “amends” to Fort Calhoun’s flood protection protocol.
    Missouri R. Levees Breached: Fort Calhoun Nuclear Plant Flooded! | Fellowship of the Minds

    The situation at the nuke plants could worsen, but it depends on the water that will flow south from states like South Dakota and even states further north. Only 18" of water is needed to force the shutdown of the Cooper plant. So the situation is precarious, and it all depends on how much water comes their way from potential heavy rains from storms, the eventual melting of the winter snow fall in northern states, and if the levys and dams fail, all bets are off. Only fools, or overly apathetic morons would assume this situation is of no concern.
     
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    The second site is press releases from the company that runs the plants, and those statements can be verified by the Nuclear Regulatory Board.

    They are sandbagging in CASE the nearby levee had a problem. They have another 8 feet to go before any levee is topped, but considering we havent invented "insta-sandbags" yet isnt it prudent for them to plan ahead? Isnt that what we want the nuclear industry to do? To be overly safe? Why should thier precuation be used against them?

    Also the electrical fire had nothing to do with the flooding, and was fixed in 90 minutes. it would have taken 88 hours for the spent fuel pool to even start to boil.
     

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