NBA dress code racist

[insein]

SO you are saying that young blacks do not emulate overpaid and pampered professional black athletes?

No he's making an assinine comparison to porn. What he fails to realize is that the PARENTS of these kids allow their children to emulate rappers and basketball thugs wannabes. IF the PARENTS provided an example of what an adult should be then perhaps they wouldnt want to be halfway crooks and wannabe ganstas.

 

[sitarro]

No he's making an assinine comparison to porn. What he fails to realize is that the PARENTS of these kids allow their children to emulate rappers and basketball thugs wannabes. IF the PARENTS provided an example of what an adult should be then perhaps they wouldnt want to be halfway crooks and wannabe ganstas.

Being someone that was raised involved in a game that cheating didn't happen, a game where players called penalties on themselves, disqualified themselves from tournaments for simple mistakes, it is easy to see what has happened to this country. I am amazed how fans are willing to overlook obvious rules violations in the 4 big sports. . . baseball, football, basketball and Hockey. In fact a well known sports commentator has said that if you're not cheating you aren't playing to win, how pathetic is that. It has even infected the game I care about, golf, with players using clubs that aren't legal, hot golf balls. Where are the real heros, the ones that know and play by the rules and still kick the ass of the cheaters.

With the worship of atheletes in America today, is there any wonder why most don't bother with the rules of the road or society in general? They see their favorite players cheat in every game in front of the whole world on film and then try to deny it. Even the former President of the United States lied so much that he could tell me the sky was blue and I would still have to see it for myself.
Running that stop sign may seem inconsequential but it does mean something and says a lot about a person. Morality means doing the right thing even when it's just you watching.

 

[dilloduck]

No he's making an assinine comparison to porn. What he fails to realize is that the PARENTS of these kids allow their children to emulate rappers and basketball thugs wannabes. IF the PARENTS provided an example of what an adult should be then perhaps they wouldnt want to be halfway crooks and wannabe ganstas.

You want parents to set good examples for the youth of America but have to problem with everyone else being as sleezy as they feel like? What gets YOU off the hook for being a good role model for the youth of America?

 

[Gunny]

No he's making an assinine comparison to porn. What he fails to realize is that the PARENTS of these kids allow their children to emulate rappers and basketball thugs wannabes. IF the PARENTS provided an example of what an adult should be then perhaps they wouldnt want to be halfway crooks and wannabe ganstas.

Rather hard when the parents themselves are emulating rappers and thug wannabes.

 

[Gunny]

You want parents to set good examples for the youth of America but have to problem with everyone else being as sleezy as they feel like? What gets YOU off the hook for being a good role model for the youth of America?

I am only going to partially agree with your statement. As members of society, it is indeed all of our responsibility to set the example for our youth.

However, I also agree with insein. It is the PRIMARY responsibility of the parents to raise their children to be productive members of the same society. Peer pressure may play a big role, but it does all start at home.

 

[insein]

You want parents to set good examples for the youth of America but have to problem with everyone else being as sleezy as they feel like? What gets YOU off the hook for being a good role model for the youth of America?

If you raise your kids right then they shouldnt want to be a part of that culture. If you instill values into them that what they see on tv and in those situations is WRONG, then you have done your best in preparing them to live a good life. Is doesnt mean that you guarentee success. Parenting is not a 100% successful endeavour. All a parent can do is provide the best possible example as to how an adult should live their life and hope that the child takes that advice.

To sit here and try and change the world around you is an effort in futility. To tell everyone else what to do is alot harder then telling your kids why they shouldnt do that. You only have to convince one mind of the right path instead of trying to force many minds to the right path.

 

[The ClayTaurus]

Chris Webber was on Real Time and Bill Maher immediately went into the whole it's racist thing, and Chris came back and said "I think it's sort of racist when some people think a black man can't wear a suit, or doesn't want to wear a suit."

So, it looks like everyone involved is racist.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

If you raise your kids right then they shouldnt want to be a part of that culture. If you instill values into them that what they see on tv and in those situations is WRONG, then you have done your best in preparing them to live a good life. Is doesnt mean that you guarentee success. Parenting is not a 100% successful endeavour. All a parent can do is provide the best possible example as to how an adult should live their life and hope that the child takes that advice.

To sit here and try and change the world around you is an effort in futility. To tell everyone else what to do is alot harder then telling your kids why they shouldnt do that. You only have to convince one mind of the right path instead of trying to force many minds to the right path.

WHo wouldn't want to be part of a subculture where the intelligentsia and media encourage pride, instead of one which the media and academics insist should be bridled with self shame based on race?

 

[GotZoom]

I have said this before, and I will keep saying it.

It's on the parents. They should raise their children with pride - with understanding of what is right and wrong. That the way their children are is a direct reflection of how they are as parents.

I don't care what the media does.

When I was a kid, if I tried to walk outside of the house with something on my parents didn't approve of, they made me change or I couldn't go out.

Problem solved.

 

[The ClayTaurus]

I have said this before, and I will keep saying it.

It's on the parents. They should raise their children with pride - with understanding of what is right and wrong. That the way their children are is a direct reflection of how they are as parents.

I don't care what the media does.

When I was a kid, if I tried to walk outside of the house with something on my parents didn't approve of, they made me change or I couldn't go out.

Problem solved.

But that takes, like, responsibility from somebody.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

I have said this before, and I will keep saying it.

It's on the parents. They should raise their children with pride - with understanding of what is right and wrong. That the way their children are is a direct reflection of how they are as parents.

I don't care what the media does.

When I was a kid, if I tried to walk outside of the house with something on my parents didn't approve of, they made me change or I couldn't go out.

Problem solved.

I understand the value of parenting. It's true. But there are other problems too, like a media which shames one race and makes every excuse in the world to protect another from feeling bad about it's own cultural failings, choosing instead to blame whitey.

 

[The ClayTaurus]

I understand the value of parenting. It's true. But there are other problems too, like a media which shames one race and makes every excuse in the world to protect another from feeling bad about it's own cultural failings, choosing instead to blame whitey.

It's not difficult to teach your children that the media isn't always right. In fact, I would say it's important to teach that no one is always right.

 

[GotZoom]

But that takes, like, responsibility from somebody.

Starts with a P.

Ends with arents.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

It's not difficult to teach your children that the media isn't always right. In fact, I would say it's important to teach that no one is always right.

SO an anti white media is fine with you, because it's easy to teach your children to ignore it? What if fox tv had "****** Hour with Blackie Blackson"? Would Your argument fly then? Tell people to ignore it? Let's address the racial bias in our media and government. Affirmative action = a race based preference scheme. Down with it.

 

[The ClayTaurus]

SO an anti white media is fine with you, because it's easy to teach your children to ignore it? What if fox tv had "****** Hour with Blackie Blackson"? Would Your argument fly then? Tell people to ignore it? Let's address the racial bias in our media and government. Affirmative action = a race based preference scheme. Down with it.

I don't think today's media is the anti-white equivalent of ****** hour with blackie blackson.

But, to answer your question, if there was such a show, I would teach my kids to ignore it. The only reason shit like that succeeds is because people pay attention to it. If something is crap, ignore it and it will die.

Ignoring something is one of the most powerful tools a person has.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

I don't think today's media is the anti-white equivalent of ****** hour with blackie blackson.

But, to answer your question, if there was such a show, I would teach my kids to ignore it. The only reason shit like that succeeds is because people pay attention to it. If something is crap, ignore it and it will die.

Ignoring something is one of the most powerful tools a person has.

It's not exactly the same no. SOmething is deeply wrong though when black pride is something "good", and white pride is evil across the board. Sentiments like this are spread through all 24 hrs of programming. SO it's actually more insidious that a single racist program. I'm glad to see you're so pro family though!


You can tell me that "no one should identify with their race as a source of pride, it's so superficial". That's all well and good, but they're collecting racial data as we speak to decide who gets to go to college.

 

[GotZoom]

It's the cause de jour. Black pride is good..white pride is wrong. There are black rap singers who are doing the same thing the two white girls (other thread about white pride singers).

White pride is equated to neo-nazi, KKK, and anti-black.

Black pride is equated to being proud of their color.

It's a story because too many people continually talk about it. Jessee and Al, Louis, etc....it's their source of income. But they are no different - out of wedlock babies, etc.

My parents taught me to be proud of who I am. But also to understand and respect that others are also proud of who they are. Give respect with respect is due.

Golden Rule. It's really very easy. It just needs to be started at birth and continually reinforced.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

It's the cause de jour. Black pride is good..white pride is wrong. There are black rap singers who are doing the same thing the two white girls (other thread about white pride singers).

White pride is equated to neo-nazi, KKK, and anti-black.

Black pride is equated to being proud of their color.

It's a story because too many people continually talk about it. Jessee and Al, Louis, etc....it's their source of income. But they are no different - out of wedlock babies, etc.

My parents taught me to be proud of who I am. But also to understand and respect that others are also proud of who they are. Give respect with respect is due.

Golden Rule. It's really very easy. It just needs to be started at birth and continually reinforced.

Yeah. Plus we need to disabuse society of anti white tendencies!

 

[The ClayTaurus]

It's not exactly the same no. SOmething is deeply wrong though when black pride is something "good", and white pride is evil across the board. Sentiments like this are spread through all 24 hrs of programming. SO it's actually more insidious that a single racist program. I'm glad to see you're so pro family though!


You can tell me that "no one should identify with their race as a source of pride, it's so superficial". That's all well and good, but they're collecting racial data as we speak to decide who gets to go to college.

Black's can't be proud of their heritage because, for most of them, it's a mystery. Blacks don't know what country in Africa they're from. So, as a race, they celebrate their culture together because no one knows where in Africa they're from.

Whites, on the other hand, can. I can say I'm 25% this and 30% that and have my whole european heritage down pat. And to that extent, there's plenty of celebration of white culture. Italians, french, germans; they all celebrate their culture. But there isn't a collective "white" celebration because we all know where we came from, for the most part.

Now, I'll agree that the whole black culture thing is out of control. The argument I made started out as a legimate source of pride of your heritage for blacks. Much like you would be a proud Italian or Irishmen or whatever. But it's been bastardized so much today that the sentiment is lost.

And it's funny about the affirmative action thing, I was going to put a thread up just about that... maybe in an hour or two...

 

[rtwngAvngr]

If something is crap, ignore it and it will die.

Ignoring something is one of the most powerful tools a person has.

Liberals tried this with reality, it still bit them. The libs also wanted to ignore communism.

Do you believe we live in world where university admissions use race as a factor? And these are supposedly the enlightened liberals. Do you really believe they want a color blind society? Or do they want a less white society?