Nazis Are Not Socialists

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Except when they are.

"White supremacists from the Traditionalist Workers Party, the League of the South and the National Socialist Movement — the country’s most-prominent neo-Nazi organization — gathered on the side of the town’s historic courthouse and screamed back and forth at anti-fascist (Antifa) demonstrators who were separated from the Nazis by police and barricades."

Socialists screaming at socialists.

Armed Nazis Descend On Tiny Kentucky Town
 
Except when they are.

"White supremacists from the Traditionalist Workers Party, the League of the South and the National Socialist Movement — the country’s most-prominent neo-Nazi organization — gathered on the side of the town’s historic courthouse and screamed back and forth at anti-fascist (Antifa) demonstrators who were separated from the Nazis by police and barricades."

Socialists screaming at socialists.

Armed Nazis Descend On Tiny Kentucky Town

This just in --- fascists are not socialists either. Gee Wally, ya think maybe only socialists are socialists? Who knew?

Yet another dimbulb desperately pretending that adopting a label automatically bestows traits despite actions. Following in the illustrious intellectual footsteps of the "People's Democratic Republic" of Korea, the German "Democratic Republic", the "Democratic Republic" of Congo, the Pennsylvania "Dutch", the music bands "10,000" Maniacs, the "Nashville" Teens, the Statler "Brothers", the "Flying" Karazamov "Brothers", and of course untold grocery store shelves full of Post "Grape Nuts". Particularly the ones in "Jersey Shore", Pennsylvania.

And these same wags will be the first to trot out terms like "RINO". SMFH
 
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Except when they are.

"White supremacists from the Traditionalist Workers Party, the League of the South and the National Socialist Movement — the country’s most-prominent neo-Nazi organization — gathered on the side of the town’s historic courthouse and screamed back and forth at anti-fascist (Antifa) demonstrators who were separated from the Nazis by police and barricades."

Socialists screaming at socialists.

Armed Nazis Descend On Tiny Kentucky Town
I can call myself a tree, doesn't make me one, China was called the Peoples Democratic Republic, it wasn't democratic or a republic. Nazism was socialist until Hitler got a hold of it, which is one of the reasons Hitler had to do away with Rohm and the other SA leaders, they started demanding Hitler begin instituting the socialist aspects of Nazism.
 
Except when they are.

"White supremacists from the Traditionalist Workers Party, the League of the South and the National Socialist Movement — the country’s most-prominent neo-Nazi organization — gathered on the side of the town’s historic courthouse and screamed back and forth at anti-fascist (Antifa) demonstrators who were separated from the Nazis by police and barricades."

Socialists screaming at socialists.

Armed Nazis Descend On Tiny Kentucky Town

This just in --- fascists are not socialists either. Gee Wally, ya think maybe only socialists are socialists? Who knew?

Yet another dimbulb desperately pretending that adopting a label automatically bestows traits despite actions. Following in the illustrious intellectual footsteps of the "People's Democratic Republic" of Korea, the German "Democratic Republic", the "Democratic Republic" of Congo, the Pennsylvania "Dutch", the music bands "10,000" Maniacs and the "Nashville" Teens, and of course untold grocery store shelves full of Post "Grape Nuts".

And these same wags will be the first to trot out terms like "RINO". SMFH
By definition Fascism is a socialist construct with a capitalist veneer. Nazism was until Hitler came to power and turned it into a dictatorship.
 
Except when they are.

"White supremacists from the Traditionalist Workers Party, the League of the South and the National Socialist Movement — the country’s most-prominent neo-Nazi organization — gathered on the side of the town’s historic courthouse and screamed back and forth at anti-fascist (Antifa) demonstrators who were separated from the Nazis by police and barricades."

Socialists screaming at socialists.

Armed Nazis Descend On Tiny Kentucky Town
I can call myself a tree, doesn't make me one, China was called the Peoples Democratic Republic, it wasn't democratic or a republic. Nazism was socialist until Hitler got a hold of it, which is one of the reasons Hitler had to do away with Rohm and the other SA leaders, they started demanding Hitler begin instituting the socialist aspects of Nazism.
nazism was never socialist, hitler called fascism national socialism to basically troll the left and recruit poor confused idiots into joining them.... the same way fascists call themselves libertarians today
 
Except when they are.

"White supremacists from the Traditionalist Workers Party, the League of the South and the National Socialist Movement — the country’s most-prominent neo-Nazi organization — gathered on the side of the town’s historic courthouse and screamed back and forth at anti-fascist (Antifa) demonstrators who were separated from the Nazis by police and barricades."

Socialists screaming at socialists.

Armed Nazis Descend On Tiny Kentucky Town
I can call myself a tree, doesn't make me one, China was called the Peoples Democratic Republic, it wasn't democratic or a republic. Nazism was socialist until Hitler got a hold of it, which is one of the reasons Hitler had to do away with Rohm and the other SA leaders, they started demanding Hitler begin instituting the socialist aspects of Nazism.
nazism was never socialist, hitler called fascism national socialism to basically troll the left and recruit poor confused idiots into joining them.... the same way fascists call themselves libertarians today
Explain this:


The Nazis and the German Economy - History Learning Site

Many young men were taken off of the unemployment figure when conscription was brought in (1935) and men had to do their time in the army etc. By 1939, the army was 1.4 million strong. To equip these men with weapons etc., factories were built and this took even more off of the unemployment figure.

With these measures in place the unemployment figure had to fall drastically and many saw the Nazi figures as nothing more than a book-keeping trick. However, many would have been too scared to speak out against the Nazis or pass negative comments on the published figures – such was the fear of the Gestapo.

However, there is no doubt that work was created. The Nazis introduced public work schemes for men who worked in the National Labour Service (Reichsarbeitsdienst or RAD). Their work would have included digging ditches on farms to assist irrigation, building the new autobahns, planting new forests etc. The men of the RAD wore a military style uniform, lived in camps near to where they were working and received only what we would term pocket money. However, compared to the lack of success of the Weimar governmentand the chronic misery of 1931 to 1932, these men felt that at least the Nazi government was making the effort to improve their lot.

To ‘protect’ those in work, the German Labour Front was set up. This was lead by Robert Ley. The GLF took the role of trade unions which had been banned. To an extent, the GLF did this. Ley ordered that workers could not be sacked on the spot but he also ordered that a worker could not leave his job without the government’s permission. Only government labour exchanges could arrange for a new job if someone did leave his employment.

However, the GLF increased the number of hours worked from 60 to 72 per week (including overtime) by 1939. Strikes were outlawed. The average factory worker was earning 10 times more than those on dole money and few complained – though to do so was fraught with potential difficulties.

The leisure time of the workers was also taken care of. An organisation called “Kraft durch Freude” (KdF) took care of this. Ley and the KdF worked out that each worker had 3,740 hours per year free for pursuing leisure activities – which the state would provide. The activities provided by the state were carefully and systematically recorded. For the Berlin area (1933-38) :
 
Except when they are.

"White supremacists from the Traditionalist Workers Party, the League of the South and the National Socialist Movement — the country’s most-prominent neo-Nazi organization — gathered on the side of the town’s historic courthouse and screamed back and forth at anti-fascist (Antifa) demonstrators who were separated from the Nazis by police and barricades."

Socialists screaming at socialists.

Armed Nazis Descend On Tiny Kentucky Town
I can call myself a tree, doesn't make me one, China was called the Peoples Democratic Republic, it wasn't democratic or a republic. Nazism was socialist until Hitler got a hold of it, which is one of the reasons Hitler had to do away with Rohm and the other SA leaders, they started demanding Hitler begin instituting the socialist aspects of Nazism.
nazism was never socialist, hitler called fascism national socialism to basically troll the left and recruit poor confused idiots into joining them.... the same way fascists call themselves libertarians today
Nazism before Hitler came to power was a form of socialistic fascism, Hitler changed all of that. To call Libertarians fascist is nothing more than sociopolitical rhetoric espoused by clueless partisan hacks just as inane and ignorant as the far right calling liberals socialists or Commies.
 
Except when they are.

"White supremacists from the Traditionalist Workers Party, the League of the South and the National Socialist Movement — the country’s most-prominent neo-Nazi organization — gathered on the side of the town’s historic courthouse and screamed back and forth at anti-fascist (Antifa) demonstrators who were separated from the Nazis by police and barricades."

Socialists screaming at socialists.

Armed Nazis Descend On Tiny Kentucky Town
I can call myself a tree, doesn't make me one, China was called the Peoples Democratic Republic, it wasn't democratic or a republic. Nazism was socialist until Hitler got a hold of it, which is one of the reasons Hitler had to do away with Rohm and the other SA leaders, they started demanding Hitler begin instituting the socialist aspects of Nazism.
nazism was never socialist, hitler called fascism national socialism to basically troll the left and recruit poor confused idiots into joining them.... the same way fascists call themselves libertarians today
Nazism before Hitler came to power was a form of socialistic fascism, Hitler changed all of that. To call Libertarians fascist is nothing more than sociopolitical rhetoric espoused by clueless partisan hacks just as inane as the far right calling liberals socialists or Commies.
there was no nazism before hitler what the hell are you talking about? and if you dont think libertarians are fascist under a new name its probably because you are one
 
Except when they are.

"White supremacists from the Traditionalist Workers Party, the League of the South and the National Socialist Movement — the country’s most-prominent neo-Nazi organization — gathered on the side of the town’s historic courthouse and screamed back and forth at anti-fascist (Antifa) demonstrators who were separated from the Nazis by police and barricades."

Socialists screaming at socialists.

Armed Nazis Descend On Tiny Kentucky Town
I can call myself a tree, doesn't make me one, China was called the Peoples Democratic Republic, it wasn't democratic or a republic. Nazism was socialist until Hitler got a hold of it, which is one of the reasons Hitler had to do away with Rohm and the other SA leaders, they started demanding Hitler begin instituting the socialist aspects of Nazism.
nazism was never socialist, hitler called fascism national socialism to basically troll the left and recruit poor confused idiots into joining them.... the same way fascists call themselves libertarians today
Explain this:


The Nazis and the German Economy - History Learning Site

Many young men were taken off of the unemployment figure when conscription was brought in (1935) and men had to do their time in the army etc. By 1939, the army was 1.4 million strong. To equip these men with weapons etc., factories were built and this took even more off of the unemployment figure.

With these measures in place the unemployment figure had to fall drastically and many saw the Nazi figures as nothing more than a book-keeping trick. However, many would have been too scared to speak out against the Nazis or pass negative comments on the published figures – such was the fear of the Gestapo.

However, there is no doubt that work was created. The Nazis introduced public work schemes for men who worked in the National Labour Service (Reichsarbeitsdienst or RAD). Their work would have included digging ditches on farms to assist irrigation, building the new autobahns, planting new forests etc. The men of the RAD wore a military style uniform, lived in camps near to where they were working and received only what we would term pocket money. However, compared to the lack of success of the Weimar governmentand the chronic misery of 1931 to 1932, these men felt that at least the Nazi government was making the effort to improve their lot.

To ‘protect’ those in work, the German Labour Front was set up. This was lead by Robert Ley. The GLF took the role of trade unions which had been banned. To an extent, the GLF did this. Ley ordered that workers could not be sacked on the spot but he also ordered that a worker could not leave his job without the government’s permission. Only government labour exchanges could arrange for a new job if someone did leave his employment.

However, the GLF increased the number of hours worked from 60 to 72 per week (including overtime) by 1939. Strikes were outlawed. The average factory worker was earning 10 times more than those on dole money and few complained – though to do so was fraught with potential difficulties.

The leisure time of the workers was also taken care of. An organisation called “Kraft durch Freude” (KdF) took care of this. Ley and the KdF worked out that each worker had 3,740 hours per year free for pursuing leisure activities – which the state would provide. The activities provided by the state were carefully and systematically recorded. For the Berlin area (1933-38) :
hitler banned all trade unions except the one that was loyal to his government, isn't that exactly what you want? besides not everyone could join nobody in the concentration camps got vacation time moron. the queen of england was closer to a socialist
 
Except when they are.

"White supremacists from the Traditionalist Workers Party, the League of the South and the National Socialist Movement — the country’s most-prominent neo-Nazi organization — gathered on the side of the town’s historic courthouse and screamed back and forth at anti-fascist (Antifa) demonstrators who were separated from the Nazis by police and barricades."

Socialists screaming at socialists.

Armed Nazis Descend On Tiny Kentucky Town
I can call myself a tree, doesn't make me one, China was called the Peoples Democratic Republic, it wasn't democratic or a republic. Nazism was socialist until Hitler got a hold of it, which is one of the reasons Hitler had to do away with Rohm and the other SA leaders, they started demanding Hitler begin instituting the socialist aspects of Nazism.
nazism was never socialist, hitler called fascism national socialism to basically troll the left and recruit poor confused idiots into joining them.... the same way fascists call themselves libertarians today

Actually the "socialist" term was already in the name of the party when Hitler joined it in 1920. It was trendy and marketable at the time. Hitler objected to the concept but went along with the name, being at least astute about "what would sell".

Of course once Hitlerism got underway only the name remained, and the local (real) socialists and communists became the first prisoners at Dachau.
 
Except when they are.

"White supremacists from the Traditionalist Workers Party, the League of the South and the National Socialist Movement — the country’s most-prominent neo-Nazi organization — gathered on the side of the town’s historic courthouse and screamed back and forth at anti-fascist (Antifa) demonstrators who were separated from the Nazis by police and barricades."

Socialists screaming at socialists.

Armed Nazis Descend On Tiny Kentucky Town
I can call myself a tree, doesn't make me one, China was called the Peoples Democratic Republic, it wasn't democratic or a republic. Nazism was socialist until Hitler got a hold of it, which is one of the reasons Hitler had to do away with Rohm and the other SA leaders, they started demanding Hitler begin instituting the socialist aspects of Nazism.
nazism was never socialist, hitler called fascism national socialism to basically troll the left and recruit poor confused idiots into joining them.... the same way fascists call themselves libertarians today
Explain this:


The Nazis and the German Economy - History Learning Site

Many young men were taken off of the unemployment figure when conscription was brought in (1935) and men had to do their time in the army etc. By 1939, the army was 1.4 million strong. To equip these men with weapons etc., factories were built and this took even more off of the unemployment figure.

With these measures in place the unemployment figure had to fall drastically and many saw the Nazi figures as nothing more than a book-keeping trick. However, many would have been too scared to speak out against the Nazis or pass negative comments on the published figures – such was the fear of the Gestapo.

However, there is no doubt that work was created. The Nazis introduced public work schemes for men who worked in the National Labour Service (Reichsarbeitsdienst or RAD). Their work would have included digging ditches on farms to assist irrigation, building the new autobahns, planting new forests etc. The men of the RAD wore a military style uniform, lived in camps near to where they were working and received only what we would term pocket money. However, compared to the lack of success of the Weimar governmentand the chronic misery of 1931 to 1932, these men felt that at least the Nazi government was making the effort to improve their lot.

To ‘protect’ those in work, the German Labour Front was set up. This was lead by Robert Ley. The GLF took the role of trade unions which had been banned. To an extent, the GLF did this. Ley ordered that workers could not be sacked on the spot but he also ordered that a worker could not leave his job without the government’s permission. Only government labour exchanges could arrange for a new job if someone did leave his employment.

However, the GLF increased the number of hours worked from 60 to 72 per week (including overtime) by 1939. Strikes were outlawed. The average factory worker was earning 10 times more than those on dole money and few complained – though to do so was fraught with potential difficulties.

The leisure time of the workers was also taken care of. An organisation called “Kraft durch Freude” (KdF) took care of this. Ley and the KdF worked out that each worker had 3,740 hours per year free for pursuing leisure activities – which the state would provide. The activities provided by the state were carefully and systematically recorded. For the Berlin area (1933-38) :
hitler banned all trade unions except the one that was loyal to his government, isn't that exactly what you want? besides not everyone could join nobody in the concentration camps got vacation time moron. the queen of england was closer to a socialist
You don't need trade unions when the government is calling all the shots. You can't address my response so you hurled feces instead. Like a little chimp.
 
Nazis Are Not Socialists

No, they couldn't be. The fact that Nazi is an shorthand form of "Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei," which translates to "National-Socialist German Workers' Party" in English, the very word "socialist" being part of the term, is surely an indication that Nazis were and are not socialists.

That said, given the mental midgetry it takes to be an avowed white supremacist, it may well be they espouse the label "Nazi" and don't actually know all what of the heck it means and represents. That may tacitly be the point you aimed to make in your OP, but it didn't come clearly across that way, even seeing the "except when they are" part. As I said, one cannot take for granted that Neo-Nazis know the full spectrum of the rhetoric and monikers they use. Hell, many of them may not know what socialism is, let alone whether they are or aren't. They may well think they are "redefining" the term.
 
Except when they are.

"White supremacists from the Traditionalist Workers Party, the League of the South and the National Socialist Movement — the country’s most-prominent neo-Nazi organization — gathered on the side of the town’s historic courthouse and screamed back and forth at anti-fascist (Antifa) demonstrators who were separated from the Nazis by police and barricades."

Socialists screaming at socialists.

Armed Nazis Descend On Tiny Kentucky Town
I can call myself a tree, doesn't make me one, China was called the Peoples Democratic Republic, it wasn't democratic or a republic. Nazism was socialist until Hitler got a hold of it, which is one of the reasons Hitler had to do away with Rohm and the other SA leaders, they started demanding Hitler begin instituting the socialist aspects of Nazism.
nazism was never socialist, hitler called fascism national socialism to basically troll the left and recruit poor confused idiots into joining them.... the same way fascists call themselves libertarians today
Nazism before Hitler came to power was a form of socialistic fascism, Hitler changed all of that. To call Libertarians fascist is nothing more than sociopolitical rhetoric espoused by clueless partisan hacks just as inane as the far right calling liberals socialists or Commies.
there was no nazism before hitler what the hell are you talking about? and if you dont think libertarians are fascist under a new name its probably because you are one
Obviously history was never one of your strong points............ As for the rest of your ignorant tirade it tells me all I need to know about your knowledge level and bias. Go back to school, learn something then come back and participate with the grown ups. :thup:
 
Except when they are.

"White supremacists from the Traditionalist Workers Party, the League of the South and the National Socialist Movement — the country’s most-prominent neo-Nazi organization — gathered on the side of the town’s historic courthouse and screamed back and forth at anti-fascist (Antifa) demonstrators who were separated from the Nazis by police and barricades."

Socialists screaming at socialists.

Armed Nazis Descend On Tiny Kentucky Town
I can call myself a tree, doesn't make me one, China was called the Peoples Democratic Republic, it wasn't democratic or a republic. Nazism was socialist until Hitler got a hold of it, which is one of the reasons Hitler had to do away with Rohm and the other SA leaders, they started demanding Hitler begin instituting the socialist aspects of Nazism.
nazism was never socialist, hitler called fascism national socialism to basically troll the left and recruit poor confused idiots into joining them.... the same way fascists call themselves libertarians today

Actually the "socialist" term was already in the name of the party when Hitler joined it in 1920. It was trendy and marketable at the time. Hitler objected to the concept but went along with the name, being at least astute about "what would sell".

Of course once Hitlerism got underway only the name remained, and the local (real) socialists and communists became the first prisoners at Dachau.
hitler was member for over a year by the time the name changed, which he was all for, im pretty sure he suggested it he even invented the use of the swastika, he was the 55th person to join the party
 
Except when they are.

"White supremacists from the Traditionalist Workers Party, the League of the South and the National Socialist Movement — the country’s most-prominent neo-Nazi organization — gathered on the side of the town’s historic courthouse and screamed back and forth at anti-fascist (Antifa) demonstrators who were separated from the Nazis by police and barricades."

Socialists screaming at socialists.

Armed Nazis Descend On Tiny Kentucky Town
I can call myself a tree, doesn't make me one, China was called the Peoples Democratic Republic, it wasn't democratic or a republic. Nazism was socialist until Hitler got a hold of it, which is one of the reasons Hitler had to do away with Rohm and the other SA leaders, they started demanding Hitler begin instituting the socialist aspects of Nazism.
nazism was never socialist, hitler called fascism national socialism to basically troll the left and recruit poor confused idiots into joining them.... the same way fascists call themselves libertarians today
Nazism before Hitler came to power was a form of socialistic fascism, Hitler changed all of that. To call Libertarians fascist is nothing more than sociopolitical rhetoric espoused by clueless partisan hacks just as inane as the far right calling liberals socialists or Commies.
there was no nazism before hitler what the hell are you talking about? and if you dont think libertarians are fascist under a new name its probably because you are one
Obviously history was never one of your strong points............ As for the rest of your ignorant tirade it tells me all I need to know about your knowledge level and bias. Go back to school, learn something then come back and participate with the grown ups. :thup:
so your saying your a nazi?
 
Except when they are.

"White supremacists from the Traditionalist Workers Party, the League of the South and the National Socialist Movement — the country’s most-prominent neo-Nazi organization — gathered on the side of the town’s historic courthouse and screamed back and forth at anti-fascist (Antifa) demonstrators who were separated from the Nazis by police and barricades."

Socialists screaming at socialists.

Armed Nazis Descend On Tiny Kentucky Town
I can call myself a tree, doesn't make me one, China was called the Peoples Democratic Republic, it wasn't democratic or a republic. Nazism was socialist until Hitler got a hold of it, which is one of the reasons Hitler had to do away with Rohm and the other SA leaders, they started demanding Hitler begin instituting the socialist aspects of Nazism.
nazism was never socialist, hitler called fascism national socialism to basically troll the left and recruit poor confused idiots into joining them.... the same way fascists call themselves libertarians today

Actually the "socialist" term was already in the name of the party when Hitler joined it in 1920. It was trendy and marketable at the time. Hitler objected to the concept but went along with the name, being at least astute about "what would sell".

Of course once Hitlerism got underway only the name remained, and the local (real) socialists and communists became the first prisoners at Dachau.
Guess who said these:

"National Socialism is what Marxism might have been if it could have broken its absurd and artificial ties with the democratic order."

"We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions."

"National socialism is the determination to create a new man. There will no longer exist any individual arbitrary will, nor realms in which the individual belongs to himself. The time of happiness as a private matter is over."
 
The top all time murderers are all socialists or communists - none are small government libertarian types

1. Stalin = communist
2. Mao = communist
3. Hitler = socialist
4. Saddam = socialist


Indeed, the worst murderers to rise to power here are all big spending types...

1. W
2. LBJ
3. the Clintons
 

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