Native English Speakers

[theDoctorisIn]

I think you might be misunderstanding what a "dead language" is.

There are no households in the world that speak Latin as their primary language. No one grows up speaking latin at home. That's what a "dead language" means.

I think you're taking the term 'dead language' much too literally.

No, I'm actually using the textbook definition of the term.

 

[Unkotare]

Learning Latin and Greek prefixes and suffixes for starters, as early as possible, goes a long way to making English a lot easier to understand and learn.

That is of limited value in learning English, which is a Germanic language rather an a Latin derivate.

 

[Unkotare]

I think you might be misunderstanding what a "dead language" is.

There are no households in the world that speak Latin as their primary language. No one grows up speaking latin at home. That's what a "dead language" means.

I think you're taking the term 'dead language' much too literally.

The term has an actual meaning.

 

[Unkotare]

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In other words, you learn English more thoroughly when you know some Latin.

No, you don't.

 

[JimBowie1958]

There are many (many!) benefits to learning a second language, but as a practical matter, is there as much reason for a native speaker of English in this day and age to learn another language(s) as there is for non-native speakers to learn English? Should we reassign the time used in schools today on mediocre foreign language instruction to further bolster math and science skills instead? Just for the sake of argument...

It hasn't helped you at all, idiot.

 

[Unkotare]

There are many (many!) benefits to learning a second language, but as a practical matter, is there as much reason for a native speaker of English in this day and age to learn another language(s) as there is for non-native speakers to learn English? Should we reassign the time used in schools today on mediocre foreign language instruction to further bolster math and science skills instead? Just for the sake of argument...

It hasn't helped you at all, idiot.

Don't you have a victim's support group meeting to attend?

 

[JimBowie1958]

There are many (many!) benefits to learning a second language, but as a practical matter, is there as much reason for a native speaker of English in this day and age to learn another language(s) as there is for non-native speakers to learn English? Should we reassign the time used in schools today on mediocre foreign language instruction to further bolster math and science skills instead? Just for the sake of argument...

It hasn't helped you at all, idiot.

Don't you have a victim's support group meeting to attend?

Ah, does the little racist shit-for-brains Unkotare wanna huggy?

Fuck off.

 

[Unkotare]

There are many (many!) benefits to learning a second language, but as a practical matter, is there as much reason for a native speaker of English in this day and age to learn another language(s) as there is for non-native speakers to learn English? Should we reassign the time used in schools today on mediocre foreign language instruction to further bolster math and science skills instead? Just for the sake of argument...

It hasn't helped you at all, idiot.

Don't you have a victim's support group meeting to attend?

Ah, does the little racist shit-for-brains Unkotare wanna huggy?.

No thanks. Go troll somewhere else, chickenshit.

 

[JimBowie1958]

There are many (many!) benefits to learning a second language, but as a practical matter, is there as much reason for a native speaker of English in this day and age to learn another language(s) as there is for non-native speakers to learn English? Should we reassign the time used in schools today on mediocre foreign language instruction to further bolster math and science skills instead? Just for the sake of argument...

It hasn't helped you at all, idiot.

Don't you have a victim's support group meeting to attend?

Ah, does the little racist shit-for-brains Unkotare wanna huggy?.

No thanks. Go troll somewhere else, chickenshit.

Your ridiculous thread on how knowing two languages makes you superior to those who only knows one language blatantly RACIST.

That is no troll, pure FACT.

 

[NoNukes]

There are many (many!) benefits to learning a second language, but as a practical matter, is there as much reason for a native speaker of English in this day and age to learn another language(s) as there is for non-native speakers to learn English? Should we reassign the time used in schools today on mediocre foreign language instruction to further bolster math and science skills instead? Just for the sake of argument...

Yes, unless you are going to be in a situation where a foreign language will come in handy, and you may not know this until you are in college. you can get by speaking English in Europe and some other places. You should have to learn English if you are going to live in the United States. I have never agreed with being able to take a driving test in Spanish or another language.

You don't want to make sure other drivers understand the rules of the road completely and explicitly?

If you live in a country, you cam learn the rules of the road in that language. You will be a safer driver.

 

[Unkotare]

There are many (many!) benefits to learning a second language, but as a practical matter, is there as much reason for a native speaker of English in this day and age to learn another language(s) as there is for non-native speakers to learn English? Should we reassign the time used in schools today on mediocre foreign language instruction to further bolster math and science skills instead? Just for the sake of argument...

It hasn't helped you at all, idiot.

Don't you have a victim's support group meeting to attend?

Ah, does the little racist shit-for-brains Unkotare wanna huggy?.

No thanks. Go troll somewhere else, chickenshit.

Your ridiculous thread on how knowing two languages makes you superior to those who only knows [sic] one language blatantly RACIST..

Which thread would that be?

 

[NoNukes]

There are many (many!) benefits to learning a second language, but as a practical matter, is there as much reason for a native speaker of English in this day and age to learn another language(s) as there is for non-native speakers to learn English? Should we reassign the time used in schools today on mediocre foreign language instruction to further bolster math and science skills instead? Just for the sake of argument...

Yes, unless you are going to be in a situation where a foreign language will come in handy, and you may not know this until you are in college. you can get by speaking English in Europe and some other places. You should have to learn English if you are going to live in the United States. I have never agreed with being able to take a driving test in Spanish or another language.

You don't want to make sure other drivers understand the rules of the road completely and explicitly?

You must have often wondered how international drivers licences exist. I've driven through countries where I had no knowledge of their languages.

Do you have an international driver's licence? Driving in a country where you do not know the language can be challenging.

 

[JimBowie1958]

There are many (many!) benefits to learning a second language, but as a practical matter, is there as much reason for a native speaker of English in this day and age to learn another language(s) as there is for non-native speakers to learn English? Should we reassign the time used in schools today on mediocre foreign language instruction to further bolster math and science skills instead? Just for the sake of argument...

It hasn't helped you at all, idiot.

Don't you have a victim's support group meeting to attend?

Ah, does the little racist shit-for-brains Unkotare wanna huggy?.

No thanks. Go troll somewhere else, chickenshit.

Your ridiculous thread on how knowing two languages makes you superior to those who only knows [sic] one language blatantly RACIST..

Which thread would that be?

lol, who gives a shit?

 

[Picaro]

Serioulsy?! Latin and Greek? Latin is a dead languge and Modern Greek has about 15 million speaker of which I am one. These are languages of interests to linguists only.

Latin is important because of the clues to meaning that Latin roots help with.

In other words, you learn English more thoroughly when you know some Latin.

A knowledge of Greek and Latin prefixes and suffixes and vocabulary are also very useful in other fields, not just language; biology, law, theology, chemistry, pharmacology, medicine, physics, history, philosophy, and literature are all easier to learn later on for a grade schooler with a solid grounding in those languages. Pretty broad range of utility for an alleged 'dead language' and early Greek.

 

[Vikrant]

If we are looking at English as an official international language then the approach is flawed. English is not a very scientific language. For starters, it lacks consistency when it comes to describing sound. It heavily relies on context which leads to ambiguity. It will be tragic for humanity if English emerges as an official international language. However, it is at the moment a very practical and useful language skill to possess.

 

[JimBowie1958]

If we are looking at English as an official international language then the approach is flawed. English is not a very scientific language. For starters, it lacks consistency when it comes to describing sound. It heavily relies on context which leads to ambiguity. It will be tragic for humanity if English emerges as an official international language. However, it is at the moment a very practical and useful language skill to possess.

English is the worst language. The spelling is arbitrary and chosen by 18th century Anglican nerds who worshipped the Norman French aristocracy and so they wanted to retain the root spellings so that one could see which words came from the crude Germanic English vrs which came from the sophisticated French of the Norman ancestry.

Every other language based their spelling on the phonetic sound of the spoken word.

So we get to have words like trough, dough, tough, thought, fought, cough, and though.

Retards.

 

[Picaro]

If we are looking at English as an official international language then the approach is flawed. English is not a very scientific language. For starters, it lacks consistency when it comes to describing sound. It heavily relies on context which leads to ambiguity. It will be tragic for humanity if English emerges as an official international language. However, it is at the moment a very practical and useful language skill to possess.

Maybe so, but some of the other languages are even worse; just check out some of the German technical jargon and how words are compounded some time. English is an international business language by fiat; it's already widespread around the globe, both because of the British Empire and then American hegemony after WW II and the several decades of relative peace and trade under that hegemony. You wouldn't be able to tell by message boards, of course, but both the Brits and Americans are more popular than almost any other peoples in the world at the moment, being the least racist and most open, comparatively, despite the sniveling to the contrary.

Any suggestions on what should replace it?

 

[JimBowie1958]

If we are looking at English as an official international language then the approach is flawed. English is not a very scientific language. For starters, it lacks consistency when it comes to describing sound. It heavily relies on context which leads to ambiguity. It will be tragic for humanity if English emerges as an official international language. However, it is at the moment a very practical and useful language skill to possess.

Maybe so, but some of the other languages are even worse; just check out some of the German technical jargon and how words are compounded some time. English is an international business language by fiat; it's already widespread around the globe, both because of the British Empire and then American hegemony after WW II and the several decades of relative peace and trade under that hegemony. You wouldn't be able to tell by message boards, of course, but both the Brits and Americans are more popular than almost any other peoples in the world at the moment, being the least racist and most open, comparatively, despite the sniveling to the contrary.

Any suggestions on what should replace it?

Latin.

 

[Vikrant]

Maybe so, but some of the other languages are even worse; just check out some of the German technical jargon and how words are compounded some time. English is an international business language by fiat; it's already widespread around the globe, both because of the British Empire and then American hegemony after WW II and the several decades of relative peace and trade under that hegemony. You wouldn't be able to tell by message boards, of course, but both the Brits and Americans are more popular than almost any other peoples in the world at the moment, being the least racist and most open, comparatively, despite the sniveling to the contrary.

Any suggestions on what should replace it?

On technicality of the grammar itself, Sanskrit is perhaps the best suited language to hold the position of an official international language. But in order for a language to be selected by the population, it has to be somewhat easier on your brain and memory. So we are looking at some sort of compromise between generative grammar of Sanskrit and heavy duty dependence on context like what we see in English. So that makes languages like Hindi more ideal for the task.

 

[Meathead]

If we are looking at English as an official international language then the approach is flawed. English is not a very scientific language. For starters, it lacks consistency when it comes to describing sound. It heavily relies on context which leads to ambiguity. It will be tragic for humanity if English emerges as an official international language. However, it is at the moment a very practical and useful language skill to possess.

English is the worst language. The spelling is arbitrary and chosen by 18th century Anglican nerds who worshipped the Norman French aristocracy and so they wanted to retain the root spellings so that one could see which words came from the crude Germanic English vrs which came from the sophisticated French of the Norman ancestry.

Every other language based their spelling on the phonetic sound of the spoken word.

So we get to have words like trough, dough, tough, thought, fought, cough, and though.

Retards.

The basic problem with written English is the alphabet. The Latin alphabet was not designed for English and does not have letters for some of the most common sounds, "sh" for example and cab be expressed in a great variety of ways.

Other languages like Polish and Hungarian have the same problem. The Czechs, Slovaks and others adopted a system of hooks above the letters to deal with the problem.