Nationale Health Care is Success in USA

[Carlsen]

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President Obamas ACA is a success. So those that disagree with President Obama and Nationale Health Care are wrong. Nationale Health Care should be a right for everybody to have in America.
LINK VIDEO:
One state, two maps, one success story | MSNBC

Tom Cotton says Mark Pryor 'continues to insist' that Obamacare is an 'amazing success' | PolitiFact

Dr. Katherine Scheirman: Affordable Care Act is a success - Doctors for America

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/14/opinion/paul-krugman-obamacare-fails-to-fail.html?_r=0

How many Americans know how health reform is going? For that matter, how many people in the news media are following the positive developments?
I suspect that the answer to the first question is “Not many,” while the answer to the second is “Possibly even fewer,” for reasons I’ll get to later. And if I’m right, it’s a remarkable thing — an immense policy success is improving the lives of millions of Americans, but it’s largely slipping under the radar.
How is that possible? Think relentless negativity without accountability. The Affordable Care Act has faced nonstop attacks from partisans and right-wing media, with mainstream news also tending to harp on the act’s troubles. Many of the attacks have involved predictions of disaster, none of which have come true. But absence of disaster doesn’t make a compelling headline, and the people who falsely predicted doom just keep coming back with dire new warnings.

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[CrusaderFrank]

Doctors are being trained to keep patients out of hospitals

 

[Zoom-boing]

 

[Mr. H.]

I liked my old policy better than my "new and improved" policy.

Period.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

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President Obamas ACA is a success. So those that disagree with President Obama and Nationale Health Care are wrong. Nationale Health Care should be a right for everybody to have in America.

Where are you getting this nonsense from? Has Joseph Goebbels risen from the dead and is now the American Minister of Propaganda and I just missed it?

By the way, the word "national" has no "e" at the end.

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

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President Obamas ACA is a success. So those that disagree with President Obama and Nationale Health Care are wrong. Nationale Health Care should be a right for everybody to have in America.

Where are you getting this nonsense from? Has Joseph Goebbels risen from the dead and is now the American Minister of Propaganda and I just missed it?

By the way, the word "national" has no "e" at the end.

Alright Mrs Crabtree! No grammar Nazi's.

Seriously though, is this going to be a thread where we attack the messenger? If so I'll get things started off by calling him/her a 'poopy head.'


It would not surprise me in the least if prices start falling nationwide.

People who dislike Obamacare though, will not EVAH admit it.

Like the falling unemployment rate, the liberal media will be ridding the potus's jock strap and faking figures in order to appease the anointed one ~

 

[Mad Scientist]

Obamacare sign ups are cratering. The only way to save it is to allow anyone in any foreign country sign up and pay in.

And it would STILL be a tough sell because it's sh*t.

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

Obamacare sign ups are cratering. The only way to save it is to allow anyone in any foreign country sign up and pay in.

....because it's sh*t.

So, that's your empirical 'scientific,' synopses, then?

 

[Stephanie]

are these paid trolls for Obama or WHAT?

the second thread saying the exact same thing?

 

[Desperado]

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President Obamas ACA is a success. So those that disagree with President Obama and Nationale Health Care are wrong. Nationale Health Care should be a right for everybody to have in America.

Where are you getting this nonsense from? Has Joseph Goebbels risen from the dead and is now the American Minister of Propaganda and I just missed it?

By the way, the word "national" has no "e" at the end.

Come on everyone knows that the Dems would never hire an old Nazi.
The Obama administration did hire Baghdad Bob to that post.

 

[MeBelle]

Doctors are being trained to keep patients out of hospitals

Rural hospitals are closing.

 

[MeBelle]

It would not surprise me in the least if prices start falling nationwide.

People who dislike Obamacare though, will not EVAH admit it.

The price of what?

Health insurance?

Medication?

Medical devices?

Hospital stays?

Lab work?

Long term care?

Be specific.

 

[PredFan]

A lib says it's working, and so everyone who disagrees is wrong.

That's the problem with idiots like the OP.

 

[GHook93]

(1) It has seen only a tiny decrease in the number of uninsured. Yet the goal was to get insurance for everyone.
(2) Obamacare offers programs, but they suck. Even at the low end (bronze and silver) these plans are pretty expensive even with the subsidy and they don't really provide anything. The deductibles are sky high and the co-pay is 30%. These plans don't help anyone other than the insurance company's bottom-line. Then you move up the food chain and get to the gold programs. They are called gold because they cost the equivalent of pure gold. However, even if you go with these programs many doctors won't accept them.
(3) It's also skyrocketing premiums, deductibles and cutting out benefits for everyone else.
(4) Costs are skyrocketing for businesses. Yes the mandate hasn't kicked in yet, but costs are going through the roof.
(5) The medical device tax has been a disaster. It has lead to more expensive medical devices on the consumer, layoff and off-shoring.
(6) Massive cancellation notice and people being forced onto Obamacare that is 100 fold more expensive, doesn't let them continue to see their doctor and doesn't provide the benefits they require.


If you are saying 1% or 2 less people who didn't have insurance and now do is worth all the negative consequence of Obaminationcare, then your measure of success is pretty low!

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

The ACA is a success.

Assuming 'success' means higher healthcare cost for everyone, higher taxes for everyone and all while they realize a striking reduction in the quality of their medical care.

BRILLIANT!

 

[Anathema]

.....National Health Care should be a right for everybody to have in America.....

While everyone else yells and screams about Obamacare, I want to get to the heart of your whole idea here. That core belief seems to be the faulty idea that Government/National Health Care is or should be a Right.

I have bad news for you.... ANY form of health care is not a Right in this country. The Obama Administration even admitted as much by promoting the legislation to the SCOTUS not as a Right of the people, but as a TAX.

Healthcare has never has been and hopefully never will be a Right in the United States. Even if the majority of individuals in this country thought that it should be (which I highly doubt), it would require a Constitutional Amendment, not an act of Congress or the President to make it so.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

]Tom Cotton says Mark Pryor 'continues to insist' that Obamacare is an 'amazing success'

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of course socialism is never an amazing success. If we had capitalism prices would be about 20% of what they are now and life expectancy would be 15-20 years longer. That would be a huge success!

 

[Quantum Windbag]

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President Obamas ACA is a success. So those that disagree with President Obama and Nationale Health Care are wrong. Nationale Health Care should be a right for everybody to have in America.
LINK VIDEO:
One state, two maps, one success story | MSNBC

Tom Cotton says Mark Pryor 'continues to insist' that Obamacare is an 'amazing success' | PolitiFact

Dr. Katherine Scheirman: Affordable Care Act is a success - Doctors for America

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/14/opinion/paul-krugman-obamacare-fails-to-fail.html?_r=0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2X2HghQ2A5A

How many Americans know how health reform is going? For that matter, how many people in the news media are following the positive developments?
I suspect that the answer to the first question is “Not many,” while the answer to the second is “Possibly even fewer,” for reasons I’ll get to later. And if I’m right, it’s a remarkable thing — an immense policy success is improving the lives of millions of Americans, but it’s largely slipping under the radar.
How is that possible? Think relentless negativity without accountability. The Affordable Care Act has faced nonstop attacks from partisans and right-wing media, with mainstream news also tending to harp on the act’s troubles. Many of the attacks have involved predictions of disaster, none of which have come true. But absence of disaster doesn’t make a compelling headline, and the people who falsely predicted doom just keep coming back with dire new warnings.

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I hate to point out the obvious, but Obamacare is not national.

Come to think of it, it isn't even healthcare.

 

[hipeter924]

Well my policy runs out next year, probably will just get a basic plan to avoid the fine (as I rarely if ever visit a doctor). But if I ever needed an operation I would get on a plane back to New Zealand, because I don't trust the ACA with my health.

 

[Antares]

Obamacare sign ups are cratering. The only way to save it is to allow anyone in any foreign country sign up and pay in.

And it would STILL be a tough sell because it's sh*t.

True, sign ups have waned but it's because there is no open enrollment.

A major life change must occur before you can buy Health Insurance until November 15th for a Jan 1st effective date.

Having said all that the plans themselves aren't very good for the consumers.