NASA admits they can't send a human to Mars

Basically, NASA finally admits it's all been wishful thinking. They're not even close to being able to do it, and they won't be close in the foreseeable future. While they say it's all about money, it's far more than money. They just don't have the tech.

NASA finally admits it doesn’t have the funding to land humans on Mars

It doesn't help that they'll miss the best launch window. There a two 'launch window cycles' at play. There's the more important window, which comes every 2.2 years, when Earth is close to "catching up" with Mars. Every Mars launch happens in that window. And there's a less strong 16-year cycle, based on the eccentricity of each planet's orbit. That reaches a minimum in 2018. We'll miss that window, then it won't get that good again until the 2030's. It's maybe a 20% difference in flight time, but if you're trying to have your people not die from radiation, minimizing trip time is vital.

So, realistically, nothing until the 2030s, at the earliest. Maybe Chang-Díaz will have his VASIMR plasma drive working by then, which would help considerably. If it works, it would have much more power than the present Hall thruster plasma drives, and get twice the "gas mileage".

NASA’s longshot bet on a revolutionary rocket may be about to pay off

And another thing, it's been found the Martian soil is so toxic, it will kill all bacteria. Any bacterial life on Mars will have to be buried deep. The new European robot probe will bring a 2-meter drill.

Mars covered in toxic chemicals that can wipe out living organisms, tests reveal
Nasa already has ships that can get to mars in 3 days.
The USS Enterprise can get past Jupiter in 15 seconds without going to Warp.

Lies! It took almost 2 hours to get from Earth to Jupiter under impulse power in The Motion Picture. ;) (Yes, I went and looked that up) Warp factor

Besides, it takes light 30+ minutes to travel the distance from Jupiter to Earth. 15 seconds would definitely require warp speed. :D
 
Basically, NASA finally admits it's all been wishful thinking. They're not even close to being able to do it, and they won't be close in the foreseeable future. While they say it's all about money, it's far more than money. They just don't have the tech.

NASA finally admits it doesn’t have the funding to land humans on Mars

It doesn't help that they'll miss the best launch window. There a two 'launch window cycles' at play. There's the more important window, which comes every 2.2 years, when Earth is close to "catching up" with Mars. Every Mars launch happens in that window. And there's a less strong 16-year cycle, based on the eccentricity of each planet's orbit. That reaches a minimum in 2018. We'll miss that window, then it won't get that good again until the 2030's. It's maybe a 20% difference in flight time, but if you're trying to have your people not die from radiation, minimizing trip time is vital.

So, realistically, nothing until the 2030s, at the earliest. Maybe Chang-Díaz will have his VASIMR plasma drive working by then, which would help considerably. If it works, it would have much more power than the present Hall thruster plasma drives, and get twice the "gas mileage".

NASA’s longshot bet on a revolutionary rocket may be about to pay off

And another thing, it's been found the Martian soil is so toxic, it will kill all bacteria. Any bacterial life on Mars will have to be buried deep. The new European robot probe will bring a 2-meter drill.

Mars covered in toxic chemicals that can wipe out living organisms, tests reveal
Nasa already has ships that can get to mars in 3 days.
The USS Enterprise can get past Jupiter in 15 seconds without going to Warp.

Lies! It took almost 2 hours to get from Earth to Jupiter under impulse power in The Motion Picture. ;) (Yes, I went and looked that up) Warp factor

Besides, it takes light 30+ minutes to travel the distance from Jupiter to Earth. 15 seconds would definitely require warp speed. :D

It takes even longer to get to Uranus
 
Basically, NASA finally admits it's all been wishful thinking. They're not even close to being able to do it, and they won't be close in the foreseeable future. While they say it's all about money, it's far more than money. They just don't have the tech.

NASA finally admits it doesn’t have the funding to land humans on Mars

It doesn't help that they'll miss the best launch window. There a two 'launch window cycles' at play. There's the more important window, which comes every 2.2 years, when Earth is close to "catching up" with Mars. Every Mars launch happens in that window. And there's a less strong 16-year cycle, based on the eccentricity of each planet's orbit. That reaches a minimum in 2018. We'll miss that window, then it won't get that good again until the 2030's. It's maybe a 20% difference in flight time, but if you're trying to have your people not die from radiation, minimizing trip time is vital.

So, realistically, nothing until the 2030s, at the earliest. Maybe Chang-Díaz will have his VASIMR plasma drive working by then, which would help considerably. If it works, it would have much more power than the present Hall thruster plasma drives, and get twice the "gas mileage".

NASA’s longshot bet on a revolutionary rocket may be about to pay off

And another thing, it's been found the Martian soil is so toxic, it will kill all bacteria. Any bacterial life on Mars will have to be buried deep. The new European robot probe will bring a 2-meter drill.

Mars covered in toxic chemicals that can wipe out living organisms, tests reveal
Nasa already has ships that can get to mars in 3 days.
The USS Enterprise can get past Jupiter in 15 seconds without going to Warp.

Lies! It took almost 2 hours to get from Earth to Jupiter under impulse power in The Motion Picture. ;) (Yes, I went and looked that up) Warp factor

Besides, it takes light 30+ minutes to travel the distance from Jupiter to Earth. 15 seconds would definitely require warp speed. :D
Interesting question. Given propellant isn't a problem, a constant 1G acceleration would go the distances over time in the charts below. It would take 3 days to get halfway to Jupiter and a little longer than another 3 days to slow down at 1G.

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Basically, NASA finally admits it's all been wishful thinking. They're not even close to being able to do it, and they won't be close in the foreseeable future. While they say it's all about money, it's far more than money. They just don't have the tech.

NASA finally admits it doesn’t have the funding to land humans on Mars

It doesn't help that they'll miss the best launch window. There a two 'launch window cycles' at play. There's the more important window, which comes every 2.2 years, when Earth is close to "catching up" with Mars. Every Mars launch happens in that window. And there's a less strong 16-year cycle, based on the eccentricity of each planet's orbit. That reaches a minimum in 2018. We'll miss that window, then it won't get that good again until the 2030's. It's maybe a 20% difference in flight time, but if you're trying to have your people not die from radiation, minimizing trip time is vital.

So, realistically, nothing until the 2030s, at the earliest. Maybe Chang-Díaz will have his VASIMR plasma drive working by then, which would help considerably. If it works, it would have much more power than the present Hall thruster plasma drives, and get twice the "gas mileage".

NASA’s longshot bet on a revolutionary rocket may be about to pay off

And another thing, it's been found the Martian soil is so toxic, it will kill all bacteria. Any bacterial life on Mars will have to be buried deep. The new European robot probe will bring a 2-meter drill.

Mars covered in toxic chemicals that can wipe out living organisms, tests reveal
Nasa already has ships that can get to mars in 3 days.
The USS Enterprise can get past Jupiter in 15 seconds without going to Warp.

Lies! It took almost 2 hours to get from Earth to Jupiter under impulse power in The Motion Picture. ;) (Yes, I went and looked that up) Warp factor

Besides, it takes light 30+ minutes to travel the distance from Jupiter to Earth. 15 seconds would definitely require warp speed. :D
Some people just love to argue.

It was a joke of course.

However the movie never seemed to show the actual time period it took in real time. I guess that would be too boring.
 
48 YEARS AGO TODAY: Apollo 11 Crew of Armstrong, Aldrin and Collins Launched Toward the Moon

FROM KSC JULY 16, 1969 AT 9:32 A.M.



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47 YEARS AGO: Apollo 11 Crew of Armstrong, Aldrin and Collins Launched Toward the Moon |






Just think where we would be had we not quit the space program, and instead of squandering all of that money and time on wars and global warming bullshit, invested it into the space program.
The top tax rate when we went to the moon was 92%
 
48 YEARS AGO TODAY: Apollo 11 Crew of Armstrong, Aldrin and Collins Launched Toward the Moon

FROM KSC JULY 16, 1969 AT 9:32 A.M.



APOLLO-11-580-11.jpg


47 YEARS AGO: Apollo 11 Crew of Armstrong, Aldrin and Collins Launched Toward the Moon |






Just think where we would be had we not quit the space program, and instead of squandering all of that money and time on wars and global warming bullshit, invested it into the space program.
The top tax rate when we went to the moon was 92%






Not really. The tax system was riddled with loop holes so the real tax rate was lower. Much lower. Typical progressive thinking there. High taxes don't get the government more money. It gets the government less money. That's why Kennedy LOWERED the tax rate and would you look at that the government revenues skyrocketed. But that's a fact and progressives don't do facts.
 
48 YEARS AGO TODAY: Apollo 11 Crew of Armstrong, Aldrin and Collins Launched Toward the Moon

FROM KSC JULY 16, 1969 AT 9:32 A.M.



APOLLO-11-580-11.jpg


47 YEARS AGO: Apollo 11 Crew of Armstrong, Aldrin and Collins Launched Toward the Moon |






Just think where we would be had we not quit the space program, and instead of squandering all of that money and time on wars and global warming bullshit, invested it into the space program.
The top tax rate when we went to the moon was 92%






Not really. The tax system was riddled with loop holes so the real tax rate was lower. Much lower. Typical progressive thinking there. High taxes don't get the government more money. It gets the government less money. That's why Kennedy LOWERED the tax rate and would you look at that the government revenues skyrocketed. But that's a fact and progressives don't do facts.
Lowered taxes? But but but that's what conservatives do! :)
 
48 YEARS AGO TODAY: Apollo 11 Crew of Armstrong, Aldrin and Collins Launched Toward the Moon

FROM KSC JULY 16, 1969 AT 9:32 A.M.



APOLLO-11-580-11.jpg


47 YEARS AGO: Apollo 11 Crew of Armstrong, Aldrin and Collins Launched Toward the Moon |






Just think where we would be had we not quit the space program, and instead of squandering all of that money and time on wars and global warming bullshit, invested it into the space program.
The top tax rate when we went to the moon was 92%






Not really. The tax system was riddled with loop holes so the real tax rate was lower. Much lower. Typical progressive thinking there. High taxes don't get the government more money. It gets the government less money. That's why Kennedy LOWERED the tax rate and would you look at that the government revenues skyrocketed. But that's a fact and progressives don't do facts.
As trump has proven, those loops holes still exist and have gotten even larger.

Your team was more interested in God, gays, guns & racism; not science.
 
48 YEARS AGO TODAY: Apollo 11 Crew of Armstrong, Aldrin and Collins Launched Toward the Moon

FROM KSC JULY 16, 1969 AT 9:32 A.M.



APOLLO-11-580-11.jpg


47 YEARS AGO: Apollo 11 Crew of Armstrong, Aldrin and Collins Launched Toward the Moon |






Just think where we would be had we not quit the space program, and instead of squandering all of that money and time on wars and global warming bullshit, invested it into the space program.
The top tax rate when we went to the moon was 92%






Not really. The tax system was riddled with loop holes so the real tax rate was lower. Much lower. Typical progressive thinking there. High taxes don't get the government more money. It gets the government less money. That's why Kennedy LOWERED the tax rate and would you look at that the government revenues skyrocketed. But that's a fact and progressives don't do facts.
As trump has proven, those loops holes still exist and have gotten even larger.

Your team was more interested in God, gays, guns & racism; not science.
You're losing the argument so play the gay and race cards together. LOL!
 
48 YEARS AGO TODAY: Apollo 11 Crew of Armstrong, Aldrin and Collins Launched Toward the Moon

FROM KSC JULY 16, 1969 AT 9:32 A.M.



APOLLO-11-580-11.jpg


47 YEARS AGO: Apollo 11 Crew of Armstrong, Aldrin and Collins Launched Toward the Moon |






Just think where we would be had we not quit the space program, and instead of squandering all of that money and time on wars and global warming bullshit, invested it into the space program.
The top tax rate when we went to the moon was 92%






Not really. The tax system was riddled with loop holes so the real tax rate was lower. Much lower. Typical progressive thinking there. High taxes don't get the government more money. It gets the government less money. That's why Kennedy LOWERED the tax rate and would you look at that the government revenues skyrocketed. But that's a fact and progressives don't do facts.
As trump has proven, those loops holes still exist and have gotten even larger.

Your team was more interested in God, gays, guns & racism; not science.








And you're no doubt a AGW "believer" which makes you an anti science, religious nutjob, as well. The rich don't pay taxes. They write the tax code to benefit themselves. I would think that a supposed thinker as you no doubt think you are, could figure that out. And, amazingly enough according to the tax returns that maddow got it appears that the trumpster pays MORE than he is required to and FAR MORE than your progressive hero's do. So, I guess you're the dupe who believes what they claim but never actually looks at what they do.
 
Basically, NASA finally admits it's all been wishful thinking. They're not even close to being able to do it, and they won't be close in the foreseeable future. While they say it's all about money, it's far more than money. They just don't have the tech.

NASA finally admits it doesn’t have the funding to land humans on Mars

It doesn't help that they'll miss the best launch window. There a two 'launch window cycles' at play. There's the more important window, which comes every 2.2 years, when Earth is close to "catching up" with Mars. Every Mars launch happens in that window. And there's a less strong 16-year cycle, based on the eccentricity of each planet's orbit. That reaches a minimum in 2018. We'll miss that window, then it won't get that good again until the 2030's. It's maybe a 20% difference in flight time, but if you're trying to have your people not die from radiation, minimizing trip time is vital.

So, realistically, nothing until the 2030s, at the earliest. Maybe Chang-Díaz will have his VASIMR plasma drive working by then, which would help considerably. If it works, it would have much more power than the present Hall thruster plasma drives, and get twice the "gas mileage".

NASA’s longshot bet on a revolutionary rocket may be about to pay off

And another thing, it's been found the Martian soil is so toxic, it will kill all bacteria. Any bacterial life on Mars will have to be buried deep. The new European robot probe will bring a 2-meter drill.

Mars covered in toxic chemicals that can wipe out living organisms, tests reveal
Nasa already has ships that can get to mars in 3 days.
The USS Enterprise can get past Jupiter in 15 seconds without going to Warp.

Lies! It took almost 2 hours to get from Earth to Jupiter under impulse power in The Motion Picture. ;) (Yes, I went and looked that up) Warp factor

Besides, it takes light 30+ minutes to travel the distance from Jupiter to Earth. 15 seconds would definitely require warp speed. :D
Some people just love to argue.

It was a joke of course.

However the movie never seemed to show the actual time period it took in real time. I guess that would be too boring.

I don't know where the site I linked got their number from. I haven't seen the original movie in a long time, and I don't plan to watch it again in hopes of timing the trip from Earth to Jupiter. :lol:

I know you were joking, I'm just trying to join in the fun. :D
 

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