Nancy gambled and lost

Conservative politicians and journalists have been questioning Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi’s actions and motives throughout the impeachment ordeal. After over three weeks of political jockeying over what the House can tell the Senate to do, some progressive politicians have started question Pelosi’s strategy as well. Now, she is finally ready to send the Articles of Impeachment over to the Senate. This comes after a clear answer to her own question. The House can’t tell the Senate to do anything.

CNN’s Chris Cillizza acknowledged the severity of the Speaker’s mistake.

CNN’s Chris Cillizza: Nancy Pelosi gambled and lost

The delay accomplished what it needed to. To put a bright, hot spotlight on the Senate and make sure this wasn't just dusted under the rug. Wanna know how I know it worked? Three weeks ago, Mitch McConnell was going to spike this with an immediate acquittal. Minimal trial. No witnesses. Fast forward to this week, now you have moderate members of his own party like Lamar Alexander and Susan Collins negotiating for witnesses. Now, there's a real possibility that you might have witnesses like Bolton and Mulvaney coming to testify. Whether they come before or during arguments is irrelevant. Add to that the juicy emails and text messages from Gulliani's "associates" about the whole Ukraine debacle and now it's not as cut and dry as it was three weeks ago because moderate senators (some who are up for re-election) understand that to just dismiss this would be the kiss of death come election time. :)

Republicans face reckoning on impeachment witnesses

I look on this as a push. I have no illusions that Trump will be removed by conviction...but least now, Mitch can't just sweep it under the rug.

And Mazie Hirono already had her mind made up. She said it.

Hirono: Trump, McConnell Trying to 'Rig the Senate Trial' | Breitbart

“And I think we really need to bring the conversation of the debate back to the president’s action which was he shook down the president of another country for his own political purposes using $400 million of needed aid to Ukraine to get his way.”

She doesn’t need any witnesses and documents. Her mind is made up.

Why not just have a vote?


So? Didn't Mitch just say three weeks ago that he wasn't going to be an impartial juror? And I don't see anywhere in this article that states that Sen Hirono had already decided to vote to convict. Now, she may very well have made up her mind but in this article, she was just pointing out that Mitch was just trying to sweep it under the rug and rig it in favor of the president. There's supposed to be a trial in the Senate now that the House has voted to impeach. Trial involves arguments and witnesses, then a vote.
Jerry Nadler said today that they had made their case.
If that is so, they don't need witnesses! However, If the Democrats get to call John Bolton, then Republicans should get to call Hunter Biden.
What can Hunter testify to, that can help Trump defend himself??? Seriously???
 
Conservative politicians and journalists have been questioning Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi’s actions and motives throughout the impeachment ordeal. After over three weeks of political jockeying over what the House can tell the Senate to do, some progressive politicians have started question Pelosi’s strategy as well. Now, she is finally ready to send the Articles of Impeachment over to the Senate. This comes after a clear answer to her own question. The House can’t tell the Senate to do anything.

CNN’s Chris Cillizza acknowledged the severity of the Speaker’s mistake.

CNN’s Chris Cillizza: Nancy Pelosi gambled and lost

It's a brilliant move by Pelosi. I'm impressed it worked. This will be a win for the Democrats.
 
She's winning


Big time.


Allowed the time to show the world McConnell breaking his oath to be impartial, show him saying he wold not be impartial, showed him saying he was working hand in hand with the defendant's lawyers, and showed him promising the FIX IS IN, and promised an acquittal

She gave the time needed for Schumer to get 4 republicans to agree to having witnesses.

She got the time for court rulings on this phony Absolute immunity, preventing witnesses to testify, in congress's favor.

She got the time for more, unknown before evidence to show up.


She won all the way around, while still allowing McConnell to claim a win, she really won, so to not hurt his male ego.

The lady, is BRILLIANT!

In with the top 5 speakers, of all time.

:D


Well, she convinced you, but you also argued that the dossier was real and that Trump would be impeached for Russia/Stormy/Cohn and so on. Pelosi is a mess. The old cow couldent even talk. Even Jabba Naddler winced as she spoke she was so choppy and incoherent. Top speaker? Maybe at one time. Now? Just a crusty old hag who was usurped by someone younger. She is a mess.
I never argued Trump would be impeached for those things.... his obstruction of justice is what was more likely..... but the President' s obstruction continued, with the help of Barr, and its been a fight of stalling thru the courts for every move to get witness and unredacted evidence...... any other president would have been impeached and removed by now, for the lawless crud he has done.

Teflon Don' s Teflon is still slippery, but God willing, justice will prevail, some day.


So you want Iran Nancy to slip and fall in the bath tub to? Cool. Even now Nanci tosses away what little dignity she has left as she begs people to listen to her. Justice? Lol, kind of. She will lose another congressional seat in Texas. Only the truely retarded buys any of this. And you will see your justice when the next democratic presidant is impeached in their first term all because y'all lost your token negro.
 
She's winning


Big time.


Allowed the time to show the world McConnell breaking his oath to be impartial, show him saying he wold not be impartial, showed him saying he was working hand in hand with the defendant's lawyers, and showed him promising the FIX IS IN, and promised an acquittal

She gave the time needed for Schumer to get 4 republicans to agree to having witnesses.

She got the time for court rulings on this phony Absolute immunity, preventing witnesses to testify, in congress's favor.

She got the time for more, unknown before evidence to show up.


She won all the way around, while still allowing McConnell to claim a win, she really won, so to not hurt his male ego.

The lady, is BRILLIANT!

In with the top 5 speakers, of all time.

:D
BombShell: Breaking News:

Nancy Pelosi will die soon. She's 80 years old.
But no worries, she will be booted out of The Speakership November 2020 first and can choose to retire or go down in history as the least effective and least respected speaker in modern history not once, but twice.
Not likely, Italians live forever, or Damn near close! My Italian great grandmother lived to 99 and a half, my Italian grandfather, till 90 and a half, and medical malpractice killed him young, he had another 10 to 15 years to go!!! :)
 
Conservative politicians and journalists have been questioning Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi’s actions and motives throughout the impeachment ordeal. After over three weeks of political jockeying over what the House can tell the Senate to do, some progressive politicians have started question Pelosi’s strategy as well. Now, she is finally ready to send the Articles of Impeachment over to the Senate. This comes after a clear answer to her own question. The House can’t tell the Senate to do anything.

CNN’s Chris Cillizza acknowledged the severity of the Speaker’s mistake.

CNN’s Chris Cillizza: Nancy Pelosi gambled and lost

It's a brilliant move by Pelosi. I'm impressed it worked. This will be a win for the Democrats.
You are right it is a win for the democrats. Biden will be chosen as the presidential candidate just as Pelosi wants. Warren and Bernie will both be kicked to the curb.
So her strategy works. The problem is during the election it won't help.
 
She's winning


Big time.


Allowed the time to show the world McConnell breaking his oath to be impartial, show him saying he wold not be impartial, showed him saying he was working hand in hand with the defendant's lawyers, and showed him promising the FIX IS IN, and promised an acquittal

She gave the time needed for Schumer to get 4 republicans to agree to having witnesses.

She got the time for court rulings on this phony Absolute immunity, preventing witnesses to testify, in congress's favor.

She got the time for more, unknown before evidence to show up.


She won all the way around, while still allowing McConnell to claim a win, she really won, so to not hurt his male ego.

The lady, is BRILLIANT!

In with the top 5 speakers, of all time.

:D


Well, she convinced you, but you also argued that the dossier was real and that Trump would be impeached for Russia/Stormy/Cohn and so on. Pelosi is a mess. The old cow couldent even talk. Even Jabba Naddler winced as she spoke she was so choppy and incoherent. Top speaker? Maybe at one time. Now? Just a crusty old hag who was usurped by someone younger. She is a mess.
I never argued Trump would be impeached for those things.... his obstruction of justice is what was more likely..... but the President' s obstruction continued, with the help of Barr, and its been a fight of stalling thru the courts for every move to get witness and unredacted evidence...... any other president would have been impeached and removed by now, for the lawless crud he has done.

Teflon Don' s Teflon is still slippery, but God willing, justice will prevail, some day.


So you want Iran Nancy to slip and fall in the bath tub to? Cool. Even now Nanci tosses away what little dignity she has left as she begs people to listen to her. Justice? Lol, kind of. She will lose another congressional seat in Texas. Only the truely retarded buys any of this. And you will see your justice when the next democratic presidant is impeached in their first term all because y'all lost your token negro.
She wraps herself in the flag while trying to undermine the office of the presidency and overturn an election. Treason is a sin in God's Word, and is considered one of the worst things a person can do.

All of the people involved in This COUP end up in the deepest part of Hell. Schiff, Nadler, Schummer, Comey, Strozk, McCabe etc.

dantes-inferno-21-638.jpg
 
Conservative politicians and journalists have been questioning Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi’s actions and motives throughout the impeachment ordeal. After over three weeks of political jockeying over what the House can tell the Senate to do, some progressive politicians have started question Pelosi’s strategy as well. Now, she is finally ready to send the Articles of Impeachment over to the Senate. This comes after a clear answer to her own question. The House can’t tell the Senate to do anything.

CNN’s Chris Cillizza acknowledged the severity of the Speaker’s mistake.

CNN’s Chris Cillizza: Nancy Pelosi gambled and lost

It's a brilliant move by Pelosi. I'm impressed it worked. This will be a win for the Democrats.
You are right it is a win for the democrats. Biden will be chosen as the presidential candidate just as Pelosi wants. Warren and Bernie will both be kicked to the curb.
So her strategy works. The problem is during the election it won't help.

Nah. Biden will lose steam.
 
Look, this is like writing a script for a movie where every viewer knows from the beginning how it's going to end. Trump will not be removed from office. Period
It will never even be considered a real impeachment by the vast majority either.
 
Conservative politicians and journalists have been questioning Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi’s actions and motives throughout the impeachment ordeal. After over three weeks of political jockeying over what the House can tell the Senate to do, some progressive politicians have started question Pelosi’s strategy as well. Now, she is finally ready to send the Articles of Impeachment over to the Senate. This comes after a clear answer to her own question. The House can’t tell the Senate to do anything.

CNN’s Chris Cillizza acknowledged the severity of the Speaker’s mistake.

CNN’s Chris Cillizza: Nancy Pelosi gambled and lost

It's a brilliant move by Pelosi. I'm impressed it worked. This will be a win for the Democrats.
You are right it is a win for the democrats. Biden will be chosen as the presidential candidate just as Pelosi wants. Warren and Bernie will both be kicked to the curb.
So her strategy works. The problem is during the election it won't help.

Nah. Biden will lose steam.
Not with Pelosi making sure that either Warren and Berine are at the senate impeachment trial during the caucuses or give up on a few extra partisan votes in the senate.

She really timed it right. I don't think that Biden will run out of steam but the Dems don't have any one. But Pelosi sees Biden as the best choice.
 
She's winning


Big time.


Allowed the time to show the world McConnell breaking his oath to be impartial, show him saying he wold not be impartial, showed him saying he was working hand in hand with the defendant's lawyers, and showed him promising the FIX IS IN, and promised an acquittal

She gave the time needed for Schumer to get 4 republicans to agree to having witnesses.

She got the time for court rulings on this phony Absolute immunity, preventing witnesses to testify, in congress's favor.

She got the time for more, unknown before evidence to show up.


She won all the way around, while still allowing McConnell to claim a win, she really won, so to not hurt his male ego.

The lady, is BRILLIANT!

In with the top 5 speakers, of all time.

:D


Well, she convinced you, but you also argued that the dossier was real and that Trump would be impeached for Russia/Stormy/Cohn and so on. Pelosi is a mess. The old cow couldent even talk. Even Jabba Naddler winced as she spoke she was so choppy and incoherent. Top speaker? Maybe at one time. Now? Just a crusty old hag who was usurped by someone younger. She is a mess.
I never argued Trump would be impeached for those things.... his obstruction of justice is what was more likely..... but the President' s obstruction continued, with the help of Barr, and its been a fight of stalling thru the courts for every move to get witness and unredacted evidence...... any other president would have been impeached and removed by now, for the lawless crud he has done.

Teflon Don' s Teflon is still slippery, but God willing, justice will prevail, some day.


So you want Iran Nancy to slip and fall in the bath tub to? Cool. Even now Nanci tosses away what little dignity she has left as she begs people to listen to her. Justice? Lol, kind of. She will lose another congressional seat in Texas. Only the truely retarded buys any of this. And you will see your justice when the next democratic presidant is impeached in their first term all because y'all lost your token negro.
She wraps herself in the flag while trying to undermine the office of the presidency and overturn an election. Treason is a sin in God's Word, and is considered one of the worst things a person can do.

All of the people involved in This COUP end up in the deepest part of Hell. Schiff, Nadler, Schummer, Comey, Strozk, McCabe etc.

dantes-inferno-21-638.jpg
The sole purpose of impeachment written in to the Constitution by our founders was to remove an unruly president from office, regardless of the electoral college picking him, in an election. That's the whole reason for impeachment, to fire the President before the 4 year contract is up.... before we can just vote them out.
 
Conservative politicians and journalists have been questioning Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi’s actions and motives throughout the impeachment ordeal. After over three weeks of political jockeying over what the House can tell the Senate to do, some progressive politicians have started question Pelosi’s strategy as well. Now, she is finally ready to send the Articles of Impeachment over to the Senate. This comes after a clear answer to her own question. The House can’t tell the Senate to do anything.

CNN’s Chris Cillizza acknowledged the severity of the Speaker’s mistake.

CNN’s Chris Cillizza: Nancy Pelosi gambled and lost

It's a brilliant move by Pelosi. I'm impressed it worked. This will be a win for the Democrats.
You are right it is a win for the democrats. Biden will be chosen as the presidential candidate just as Pelosi wants. Warren and Bernie will both be kicked to the curb.
So her strategy works. The problem is during the election it won't help.

Nah. Biden will lose steam.
Not with Pelosi making sure that either Warren and Berine are at the senate impeachment trial during the caucuses or give up on a few extra partisan votes in the senate.

She really timed it right. I don't think that Biden will run out of steam but the Dems don't have any one. But Pelosi sees Biden as the best choice.

Lol. K.
 
Conservative politicians and journalists have been questioning Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi’s actions and motives throughout the impeachment ordeal. After over three weeks of political jockeying over what the House can tell the Senate to do, some progressive politicians have started question Pelosi’s strategy as well. Now, she is finally ready to send the Articles of Impeachment over to the Senate. This comes after a clear answer to her own question. The House can’t tell the Senate to do anything.

CNN’s Chris Cillizza acknowledged the severity of the Speaker’s mistake.

CNN’s Chris Cillizza: Nancy Pelosi gambled and lost

The delay accomplished what it needed to. To put a bright, hot spotlight on the Senate and make sure this wasn't just dusted under the rug. Wanna know how I know it worked? Three weeks ago, Mitch McConnell was going to spike this with an immediate acquittal. Minimal trial. No witnesses. Fast forward to this week, now you have moderate members of his own party like Lamar Alexander and Susan Collins negotiating for witnesses. Now, there's a real possibility that you might have witnesses like Bolton and Mulvaney coming to testify. Whether they come before or during arguments is irrelevant. Add to that the juicy emails and text messages from Gulliani's "associates" about the whole Ukraine debacle and now it's not as cut and dry as it was three weeks ago because moderate senators (some who are up for re-election) understand that to just dismiss this would be the kiss of death come election time. :)

Republicans face reckoning on impeachment witnesses

I look on this as a push. I have no illusions that Trump will be removed by conviction...but least now, Mitch can't just sweep it under the rug.

And Mazie Hirono already had her mind made up. She said it.

Hirono: Trump, McConnell Trying to 'Rig the Senate Trial' | Breitbart

“And I think we really need to bring the conversation of the debate back to the president’s action which was he shook down the president of another country for his own political purposes using $400 million of needed aid to Ukraine to get his way.”

She doesn’t need any witnesses and documents. Her mind is made up.

Why not just have a vote?


So? Didn't Mitch just say three weeks ago that he wasn't going to be an impartial juror? And I don't see anywhere in this article that states that Sen Hirono had already decided to vote to convict. Now, she may very well have made up her mind but in this article, she was just pointing out that Mitch was just trying to sweep it under the rug and rig it in favor of the president. There's supposed to be a trial in the Senate now that the House has voted to impeach. Trial involves arguments and witnesses, then a vote.
Jerry Nadler said today that they had made their case.
If that is so, they don't need witnesses! However, If the Democrats get to call John Bolton, then Republicans should get to call Hunter Biden.
What can Hunter testify to, that can help Trump defend himself??? Seriously???
President Trump wanted to know (& still does) what Hunter Biden did for Barisma that was worth upwards of $50,000 per month. Viktor Shokin was Ukraine's leading prosecutor until he was fired in 2016. Vice President Joe Biden withheld funds (I've seen the video of him bragging about that) until Shokin was fired. Was Joe Biden afraid that Hunter might be implicated in corruption? Hunter Biden needs to answer questions about that. What business is it of Joe Biden how a prosecutor in Ukraine handles an investigation of a Ukrainian holding company?
 
She's winning


Big time.


Allowed the time to show the world McConnell breaking his oath to be impartial, show him saying he wold not be impartial, showed him saying he was working hand in hand with the defendant's lawyers, and showed him promising the FIX IS IN, and promised an acquittal

She gave the time needed for Schumer to get 4 republicans to agree to having witnesses.

She got the time for court rulings on this phony Absolute immunity, preventing witnesses to testify, in congress's favor.

She got the time for more, unknown before evidence to show up.


She won all the way around, while still allowing McConnell to claim a win, she really won, so to not hurt his male ego.

The lady, is BRILLIANT!

In with the top 5 speakers, of all time.

:D


Well, she convinced you, but you also argued that the dossier was real and that Trump would be impeached for Russia/Stormy/Cohn and so on. Pelosi is a mess. The old cow couldent even talk. Even Jabba Naddler winced as she spoke she was so choppy and incoherent. Top speaker? Maybe at one time. Now? Just a crusty old hag who was usurped by someone younger. She is a mess.
I never argued Trump would be impeached for those things.... his obstruction of justice is what was more likely..... but the President' s obstruction continued, with the help of Barr, and its been a fight of stalling thru the courts for every move to get witness and unredacted evidence...... any other president would have been impeached and removed by now, for the lawless crud he has done.

Teflon Don' s Teflon is still slippery, but God willing, justice will prevail, some day.


So you want Iran Nancy to slip and fall in the bath tub to? Cool. Even now Nanci tosses away what little dignity she has left as she begs people to listen to her. Justice? Lol, kind of. She will lose another congressional seat in Texas. Only the truely retarded buys any of this. And you will see your justice when the next democratic presidant is impeached in their first term all because y'all lost your token negro.
She wraps herself in the flag while trying to undermine the office of the presidency and overturn an election. Treason is a sin in God's Word, and is considered one of the worst things a person can do.

All of the people involved in This COUP end up in the deepest part of Hell. Schiff, Nadler, Schummer, Comey, Strozk, McCabe etc.

dantes-inferno-21-638.jpg
The sole purpose of impeachment written in to the Constitution by our founders was to remove an unruly president from office, regardless of the electoral college picking him, in an election. That's the whole reason for impeachment, to fire the President before the 4 year contract is up.... before we can just vote them out.
Nah, Unruly does not even appear anywhere near how impeachment is defined. The House is abusing Impeachment and weaponized it and The House is abusing it's power, and The House is trying to Usurp The Executive Branch Powers for themselves subjugating The Executive Branch to Congress, when The Constitution states that they are Co-Equal, and that there are a Separation of Powers.

This makes you an immoral wicked political whore and liar.
 
Conservative politicians and journalists have been questioning Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi’s actions and motives throughout the impeachment ordeal. After over three weeks of political jockeying over what the House can tell the Senate to do, some progressive politicians have started question Pelosi’s strategy as well. Now, she is finally ready to send the Articles of Impeachment over to the Senate. This comes after a clear answer to her own question. The House can’t tell the Senate to do anything.

CNN’s Chris Cillizza acknowledged the severity of the Speaker’s mistake.

CNN’s Chris Cillizza: Nancy Pelosi gambled and lost

It's a brilliant move by Pelosi. I'm impressed it worked. This will be a win for the Democrats.
You are right it is a win for the democrats. Biden will be chosen as the presidential candidate just as Pelosi wants. Warren and Bernie will both be kicked to the curb.
So her strategy works. The problem is during the election it won't help.

Nah. Biden will lose steam.
Not with Pelosi making sure that either Warren and Berine are at the senate impeachment trial during the caucuses or give up on a few extra partisan votes in the senate.

She really timed it right. I don't think that Biden will run out of steam but the Dems don't have any one. But Pelosi sees Biden as the best choice.

Lol. K.
Good thing that Bernies people aren't going to be unhappy that the Dems screw Bernie again. They might actually decide to vote against the Dems instead of just sit things out.
 
Conservative politicians and journalists have been questioning Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi’s actions and motives throughout the impeachment ordeal. After over three weeks of political jockeying over what the House can tell the Senate to do, some progressive politicians have started question Pelosi’s strategy as well. Now, she is finally ready to send the Articles of Impeachment over to the Senate. This comes after a clear answer to her own question. The House can’t tell the Senate to do anything.

CNN’s Chris Cillizza acknowledged the severity of the Speaker’s mistake.

CNN’s Chris Cillizza: Nancy Pelosi gambled and lost

The delay accomplished what it needed to. To put a bright, hot spotlight on the Senate and make sure this wasn't just dusted under the rug. Wanna know how I know it worked? Three weeks ago, Mitch McConnell was going to spike this with an immediate acquittal. Minimal trial. No witnesses. Fast forward to this week, now you have moderate members of his own party like Lamar Alexander and Susan Collins negotiating for witnesses. Now, there's a real possibility that you might have witnesses like Bolton and Mulvaney coming to testify. Whether they come before or during arguments is irrelevant. Add to that the juicy emails and text messages from Gulliani's "associates" about the whole Ukraine debacle and now it's not as cut and dry as it was three weeks ago because moderate senators (some who are up for re-election) understand that to just dismiss this would be the kiss of death come election time. :)

Republicans face reckoning on impeachment witnesses

I look on this as a push. I have no illusions that Trump will be removed by conviction...but least now, Mitch can't just sweep it under the rug.

And Mazie Hirono already had her mind made up. She said it.

Hirono: Trump, McConnell Trying to 'Rig the Senate Trial' | Breitbart

“And I think we really need to bring the conversation of the debate back to the president’s action which was he shook down the president of another country for his own political purposes using $400 million of needed aid to Ukraine to get his way.”

She doesn’t need any witnesses and documents. Her mind is made up.

Why not just have a vote?


So? Didn't Mitch just say three weeks ago that he wasn't going to be an impartial juror? And I don't see anywhere in this article that states that Sen Hirono had already decided to vote to convict. Now, she may very well have made up her mind but in this article, she was just pointing out that Mitch was just trying to sweep it under the rug and rig it in favor of the president. There's supposed to be a trial in the Senate now that the House has voted to impeach. Trial involves arguments and witnesses, then a vote.
Jerry Nadler said today that they had made their case.
If that is so, they don't need witnesses! However, If the Democrats get to call John Bolton, then Republicans should get to call Hunter Biden.
They made their case, as far as the House's duty, the indictment met the probable cause measure needed.

The Senate is a trial, where to convict you need guilty, beyond a reasonable doubt.


A much higher burden of proof.

If there is more evidence from either side, it should be presented in the trial.
 
The delay accomplished what it needed to. To put a bright, hot spotlight on the Senate and make sure this wasn't just dusted under the rug. Wanna know how I know it worked? Three weeks ago, Mitch McConnell was going to spike this with an immediate acquittal. Minimal trial. No witnesses. Fast forward to this week, now you have moderate members of his own party like Lamar Alexander and Susan Collins negotiating for witnesses. Now, there's a real possibility that you might have witnesses like Bolton and Mulvaney coming to testify. Whether they come before or during arguments is irrelevant. Add to that the juicy emails and text messages from Gulliani's "associates" about the whole Ukraine debacle and now it's not as cut and dry as it was three weeks ago because moderate senators (some who are up for re-election) understand that to just dismiss this would be the kiss of death come election time. :)

Republicans face reckoning on impeachment witnesses

I look on this as a push. I have no illusions that Trump will be removed by conviction...but least now, Mitch can't just sweep it under the rug.

And Mazie Hirono already had her mind made up. She said it.

Hirono: Trump, McConnell Trying to 'Rig the Senate Trial' | Breitbart

“And I think we really need to bring the conversation of the debate back to the president’s action which was he shook down the president of another country for his own political purposes using $400 million of needed aid to Ukraine to get his way.”

She doesn’t need any witnesses and documents. Her mind is made up.

Why not just have a vote?


So? Didn't Mitch just say three weeks ago that he wasn't going to be an impartial juror? And I don't see anywhere in this article that states that Sen Hirono had already decided to vote to convict. Now, she may very well have made up her mind but in this article, she was just pointing out that Mitch was just trying to sweep it under the rug and rig it in favor of the president. There's supposed to be a trial in the Senate now that the House has voted to impeach. Trial involves arguments and witnesses, then a vote.
Jerry Nadler said today that they had made their case.
If that is so, they don't need witnesses! However, If the Democrats get to call John Bolton, then Republicans should get to call Hunter Biden.
What can Hunter testify to, that can help Trump defend himself??? Seriously???
President Trump wanted to know (& still does) what Hunter Biden did for Barisma that was worth upwards of $50,000 per month. Viktor Shokin was Ukraine's leading prosecutor until he was fired in 2016. Vice President Joe Biden withheld funds (I've seen the video of him bragging about that) until Shokin was fired. Was Joe Biden afraid that Hunter might be implicated in corruption? Hunter Biden needs to answer questions about that. What business is it of Joe Biden how a prosecutor in Ukraine handles an investigation of a Ukrainian holding company?

Does anyone knows why Hunter Biden was fired from Burisma immediately after Zelensky won the Ukrainian elections?
 
It's a brilliant move by Pelosi. I'm impressed it worked. This will be a win for the Democrats.
You are right it is a win for the democrats. Biden will be chosen as the presidential candidate just as Pelosi wants. Warren and Bernie will both be kicked to the curb.
So her strategy works. The problem is during the election it won't help.

Nah. Biden will lose steam.
Not with Pelosi making sure that either Warren and Berine are at the senate impeachment trial during the caucuses or give up on a few extra partisan votes in the senate.

She really timed it right. I don't think that Biden will run out of steam but the Dems don't have any one. But Pelosi sees Biden as the best choice.

Lol. K.
Good thing that Bernies people aren't going to be unhappy that the Dems screw Bernie again. They might actually decide to vote against the Dems instead of just sit things out.

You never know.
 
Conservative politicians and journalists have been questioning Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi’s actions and motives throughout the impeachment ordeal. After over three weeks of political jockeying over what the House can tell the Senate to do, some progressive politicians have started question Pelosi’s strategy as well. Now, she is finally ready to send the Articles of Impeachment over to the Senate. This comes after a clear answer to her own question. The House can’t tell the Senate to do anything.

CNN’s Chris Cillizza acknowledged the severity of the Speaker’s mistake.

CNN’s Chris Cillizza: Nancy Pelosi gambled and lost

The delay accomplished what it needed to. To put a bright, hot spotlight on the Senate and make sure this wasn't just dusted under the rug. Wanna know how I know it worked? Three weeks ago, Mitch McConnell was going to spike this with an immediate acquittal. Minimal trial. No witnesses. Fast forward to this week, now you have moderate members of his own party like Lamar Alexander and Susan Collins negotiating for witnesses. Now, there's a real possibility that you might have witnesses like Bolton and Mulvaney coming to testify. Whether they come before or during arguments is irrelevant. Add to that the juicy emails and text messages from Gulliani's "associates" about the whole Ukraine debacle and now it's not as cut and dry as it was three weeks ago because moderate senators (some who are up for re-election) understand that to just dismiss this would be the kiss of death come election time. :)

Republicans face reckoning on impeachment witnesses

I look on this as a push. I have no illusions that Trump will be removed by conviction...but least now, Mitch can't just sweep it under the rug.

And Mazie Hirono already had her mind made up. She said it.

Hirono: Trump, McConnell Trying to 'Rig the Senate Trial' | Breitbart

“And I think we really need to bring the conversation of the debate back to the president’s action which was he shook down the president of another country for his own political purposes using $400 million of needed aid to Ukraine to get his way.”

She doesn’t need any witnesses and documents. Her mind is made up.

Why not just have a vote?


So? Didn't Mitch just say three weeks ago that he wasn't going to be an impartial juror? And I don't see anywhere in this article that states that Sen Hirono had already decided to vote to convict. Now, she may very well have made up her mind but in this article, she was just pointing out that Mitch was just trying to sweep it under the rug and rig it in favor of the president. There's supposed to be a trial in the Senate now that the House has voted to impeach. Trial involves arguments and witnesses, then a vote.
Jerry Nadler said today that they had made their case.
If that is so, they don't need witnesses! However, If the Democrats get to call John Bolton, then Republicans should get to call Hunter Biden.
They made their case, as far as the House's duty, the indictment met the probable cause measure needed.

The Senate is a trial, where to convict you need guilty, beyond a reasonable doubt.


A much higher burden of proof.

If there is more evidence from either side, it should be presented in the trial.

Can you explain something to me. Since Democrats already voted for impeachment, why today charade of voting weather to send articles of impeachment to Senate? And if they voted "no", would impeachment still be valid?
 
Conservative politicians and journalists have been questioning Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi’s actions and motives throughout the impeachment ordeal. After over three weeks of political jockeying over what the House can tell the Senate to do, some progressive politicians have started question Pelosi’s strategy as well. Now, she is finally ready to send the Articles of Impeachment over to the Senate. This comes after a clear answer to her own question. The House can’t tell the Senate to do anything.

CNN’s Chris Cillizza acknowledged the severity of the Speaker’s mistake.

CNN’s Chris Cillizza: Nancy Pelosi gambled and lost

It's a brilliant move by Pelosi. I'm impressed it worked. This will be a win for the Democrats.


Describe the "win"
 
Conservative politicians and journalists have been questioning Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi’s actions and motives throughout the impeachment ordeal. After over three weeks of political jockeying over what the House can tell the Senate to do, some progressive politicians have started question Pelosi’s strategy as well. Now, she is finally ready to send the Articles of Impeachment over to the Senate. This comes after a clear answer to her own question. The House can’t tell the Senate to do anything.

CNN’s Chris Cillizza acknowledged the severity of the Speaker’s mistake.

CNN’s Chris Cillizza: Nancy Pelosi gambled and lost

It's a brilliant move by Pelosi. I'm impressed it worked. This will be a win for the Democrats.


Describe the "win"

No. I keep the idiots in suspense. It's fun to me.
 

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