Nader Wins Endorsement From Reform Party

[5stringJeff]

Nader/Ventura, anyone?



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Nader Wins Endorsement From Reform Party
By SAM HANANEL, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - Independent presidential candidate Ralph Nader (news - web sites) has been endorsed by the national Reform Party, giving him ballot access in seven states, including Florida and Michigan, party leaders announced Wednesday.

Nader spokesman Kevin Zeese said Nader welcomes the support but plans to continue running as an independent. He said Nader would decide on a case-by-case basis whether to accept the ballot lines in each state.

"This shows that Nader can garner support from across the political spectrum, including conservatives who supported Bush in 2000," Zeese said. "The naysayers who said Nader could only get liberal votes are being proven wrong. Conservatives are upset with Bush and looking for an alternative."

Zeese said Nader spoke to Reform Party leaders via conference call Monday night and asked for their support.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&e=2&u=/ap/20040512/ap_on_el_pr/nader

 

[Palestinian Jew]

I thought Nader might drop out so that he wouldn't get Bush reelected. Guess I was wrong.

 

[Zhukov]

It's interesting that the Reform party selected him. What are they reforming now? The market economy?

That ought to completely deplete the ranks of that party.

 

[insein]

Originally posted by Palestinian Jew
I thought Nader might drop out so that he wouldn't get Bush reelected. Guess I was wrong.

No nader may be an idiot but he also doesnt like being pushed around by Billary and the rest of the Democratic leaders.

 

[dilloduck]

any true conserative would never vote for nader

 

[MtnBiker]

Originally posted by Palestinian Jew
I thought Nader might drop out so that he wouldn't get Bush reelected. Guess I was wrong.

I don't think Nader cares if Kerry wins any more than Bush.

 

[Palestinian Jew]

any true conserative would never vote for nader

But he'll sure as hell donate money to him!

 

[Syntax_Divinity]

I find it funny that insein calls Nader an idiot. I would love to see you get into a debate with Ralph. He would grind you up and spit you out. Just because the man is a flaming liberal and an egomaniac doen't mean he isn't extremely intelligent. Christ, he graduated summa cum laude from Princeton, dork.

 

[insein]

You can be summa cum laude and still be an idiot.

 

[Syntax_Divinity]

Maybe from some fraudulent, bullshit internet college, not Princeton. Those bastards have always been fanatically intellectually competitive. Hey, no offense. Nader would smear me in a debate as well, say over gun control, even though I believe I'm correct. The man is brilliant; you should read some of his books.

 

[5stringJeff]

Originally posted by Syntax_Divinity
I find it funny that insein calls Nader an idiot. I would love to see you get into a debate with Ralph. He would grind you up and spit you out. Just because the man is a flaming liberal and an egomaniac doen't mean he isn't extremely intelligent. Christ, he graduated summa cum laude from Princeton, dork.

Interesting that a Princeton graduate (Nader) is held as extremely intellegent, yet a Yale/Harvard graduate (Bush) is held as a moron...

 

[insein]

Originally posted by gop_jeff
Interesting that a Princeton graduate (Nader) is held as extremely intellegent, yet a Yale/Harvard graduate (Bush) is held as a moron...

different part of the IVY League? I don't know.

 

[Palestinian Jew]

Probably the 20 years of alcoholism, a killer on the old brain cells.

 

[Avatar4321]

But the fact is ive listened to Nader. and He seriously doesnt seem to have a clue how the Constitution works. He always proposes doing away with the checks and balances our founders installed to keep us free. Nor does he seem to understand the very basics of generating wealth and high standards of living for all people. I mean I know he graduated from Princeton with high scores but he just seems to want to destroy the very institutions that provide our freedom. I dont get it.

 

[Zhukov]

Originally posted by Avatar4321
I dont get it.

It's very simple. He's a communist.

 

[Avatar4321]

Originally posted by Zhukov
It's very simple. He's a communist.

Yeah but its impossible to be a communist and be smart. Communism is based on a lie. if you are smart you would be able to see right through it so i cant see how someone can be praised as so smart and yet be so ignorant of how the world works.

 

[Zhukov]

Originally posted by Avatar4321
Yeah but its impossible to be a communist and be smart. Communism is based on a lie. if you are smart you would be able to see right through it so i cant see how someone can be praised as so smart and yet be so ignorant of how the world works.

I mean I know he graduated from Princeton

The vast majority of our nation's college professors are left-leaning socialists, so it shouldn't come as too much of a surprise that institutions of higher learning are predominantly churning out communists, and have been doing so for quite a long time.

You don't have to be stupid to believe a lie. You just have to be told a lie unchallenged over and over again.

 

[insein]

Originally posted by Zhukov
The vast majority of our nation's college professors are left-leaning socialists, so it shouldn't come as too much of a surprise that institutions of higher learning are predominantly churning out communists, and have been doing so for quite a long time.

You don't have to be stupid to believe a lie. You just have to be told a lie unchallenged over and over again.

Excellent point. I remember myself in college being told things and at first i would take them as truth because i had no perspective on them. Like an English teacher was telling us how Cuba is better off today then it was before Castro. She said communism brought better living conditions to the people but that they still werent good because of the American sanctions. I was thinking wow thats awful. Then i looked into it and it was just a straight lie. Living conditions are awful and people flee by the thousands to escape the communist regime. When i bring up points like this in class, i was told that i am always antagonistic and disrupting class.

They can't handle opposing viewpoints well. BTW, why the hell are we learning about cultural diversity and foreign policies in composition 110? Thats what is fucking wrong with our colleges and universites.

 

[Syntax_Divinity]

I never said Bush was a moron. Besides, you missed the point of my post; summa cum laude from Princeton is arguably much more of a prestigious achievement than graduating from another ivy league school with mostly C's. Nader isn't a communist, or a socialist. He is on record supporting the market economy. Your charges are hyperbolic and undermine your arguments anyway.

 

[Zhukov]

Originally posted by Syntax_Divinity
Nader isn't a communist, or a socialist.

Supports universal health care.

His points for ending poverty:

“Create Jobs”, how? by expanding government?

“Living wage”, would mandate what employers must pay employees

“investing in urgently needed local labor-intensive public works (infrastructure improvements)"

"Workers need a living wage – not a minimum wage; access to health care and no unilateral reductions in medical benefits and pensions for current employees and retirees. Employers should not be able to avoid these benefits by hiring 'temporary workers' or 'independent contractors.'", would mandate who employers could hire

Supports the spread of worker’s unions.

"The United States needs a redirected federal budget that adequately funds the crucial priorities like infrastructure, transit and other public works, schools, clinics, libraries, forests, parks, sustainable energy and pollution controls."

"The federal government has a critical supporting role to play in ensuring that all children -- irrespective of the income of their parents, or their race -- are provided with rich learning environments and equal educational opportunities and upgraded repaired school buildings. The government has an important role to play in keeping undermining influences out of the public schools -- among them, commercialism and private school voucher programs."


These were not the intended roles of our federal government as established by it's founders. The desire for the expansion of federal authority into our daily lives is a socialist desire, and this is just what the man openly admits he would do.



Other ways Ralph Nader is just wrong...

"We urge a new clean energy policy that no longer subsidizes entrenched…nuclear…interests -- an energy policy that is efficient, sustainable and environmentally friendly.", what's wrong with nuclear power?

Reduction in what he considers wasteful military spending, when one of the primary reasons for establishing a federal government was for the collective protection of all the states.

"Ralph Nader favors lowering the voting age to 16 years old."

http://www.votenader.org/