N.J. charges 8 private sector merchants with gouging after Sandy

[The Rabbi]

Capitalist pigs at their finest. So much for the private sector giving a shit about the down and out citizens.





N.J. charges 8 merchants with gouging after Sandy* - Business on NBCNews.com

New Jersey has filed lawsuits against eight businesses for allegedly gouging customers with exorbitant prices in the days after Superstorm Sandy roared ashore, the state's attorney general said Friday.

Isn't socialism wonderful? It costs more to get stuff into the state after a disaster, so the state responds by making it impossible to get stuff in after a disaster.

But everyone is equal in their misery. So it's OK.

 

[Ravi]

WRONG


Christie Declares State of Emergency for New Jersey - Metropolis - WSJ

In 99.9% of cases a state of emergency is called based on NOAA's projected path.

Bripat probably lives in Utah in a cave and has never been through a hurricane.

Federal law requires damage to exceed a certain amount before the president can declare a disaster. Sandy was unique in that there was a massive fire in an area impacted by the storm, which actually allowed Obama to declare a disaster area in the area affected by the fire before the storm was over. This is the first time in history this has ever happened.

States may, or may not, have more flexibility based on what their law is, apparently New Jersey allows the governor to declare a disaster area before a storm hits.

^Yet another idiot that talks out of his ass.

 

[Avorysuds]

Kind of sad when people are more concerned with keeping those providing services from profit than they are of helping people.

No one is helped by price gouging except the store owner.

The idea that jacking up the price on your existing inventory will somehow cause damaged infrastructure to magically be repaired in such a way that only you and other gougers will be able to get more inventory in - is just plain fucking retarded. If the road that your gasoline is shipped in on is out - its out - and no amount of fucking your customers will change that.

You are a heartless human being. Why would you rather have people starve and die over pay for something that your beloved Government failed to do?

This is where you shut off all lo9gic and just keep repeating yourself because you know you’re wrong but are too shallow to admit it.

 

[Avorysuds]

Wrong, butthole. In the first place, the term "price gouging" doesn't mean anything other than the fact that some moron doesn't like the price you are charging.

Wrong. Its specifically defined by the law. It has nothing to do with anyone's feelings.

charging the market price means everyone who really needs the product can get some.

No it doesn't. The above statement is quite simply and obviously not true. The idea that everyone who needs a product can get it flies in the face of basic economics - both in the context of a disaster and in the context of business as usual. The fact that one might need 5 gallons of gas doesn't mean they are able to obtain it - you should have learned that in 1st grade but I guess you were to busy huffing glue.

The legal definiton of "gouging" is no more authoritative than anything else.
Price controls guaranteed that no one could get gas at any price. That is the socialist paradise: everyone equal in misery.

Nailed it. When Government gets to set all prices then the end has happened.

Again, FDR burned food while people starved in the streets. Ompaloompa here would rather blame Republicans or free markets over taking responsibility for being the party that creates an endless and growing wave of poverty and starvation.

 

[del]

Sure, take them down. Eliminate any incentive for companies to bring energy and goods to the people who need them. Their need isn't that important so let's slow it down.

no, let's excuse price gouging during an emergency

it's the christian thing to do

 

[bripat9643]

They'd make do with a parking lot and it'd be fine with you so long as Mr. HoJo makes a killing.

If the price is set artificially low, then the parking lot is where they will be sleeping because the hog with the big family rented all the available rooms.

Laughable. Now you want to regulate who is allowed to rent what. Fascism, yet another reason the Republicans lost.

No I don't, nitwit. I want the the merchant to be free to set whatever price he wants. Only the liberal automatically jumps to the conclusion that the solution to every problem is for government to make some law.

And I agree with you that such a policy is Fascism. That describes the Democrat party to a 'T.'

 

[sfcalifornia]

From the link:

“We have received no indication that these defendants faced costs that would have made these excessive price increases necessary or justifiable. One gas station even paid less per gallon for a shipment of fuel after the storm than it had paid before the storm,” Chiesa said in a statement.

Only a moron would gladly argue that the merchant was justified in raising prices during a humanitarian crisis simply for pure greed.

Whether they face additional costs is irrelevant. Price limits mean the demand will be greater than the supply. People will buy more than they need just in case. That means others will get nothing. A higher price induces people to purchase less than they would otherwise. That means more product is available to those who need it the most.

All this sanctimonious blather about "price gouging" doesn't help people in the affected area one iota. In fact it harms them.

Really. And how the do you fill a gas tank up with more gas than you need?

The plain fact of the matter is the merchants didn't have to raise prices but they did because they're greedy douchebags.

 

[Desperado]

There are assholes in every state, after every disaster that think they can get away with it.
At least most states have now passed laws about price gouging. The best thing the state can do is prosecute these people to the fullest extent of the law.

 

[martybegan]

From the link:

“We have received no indication that these defendants faced costs that would have made these excessive price increases necessary or justifiable. One gas station even paid less per gallon for a shipment of fuel after the storm than it had paid before the storm,” Chiesa said in a statement.

Only a moron would gladly argue that the merchant was justified in raising prices during a humanitarian crisis simply for pure greed.

Whether they face additional costs is irrelevant. Price limits mean the demand will be greater than the supply. People will buy more than they need just in case. That means others will get nothing. A higher price induces people to purchase less than they would otherwise. That means more product is available to those who need it the most.

All this sanctimonious blather about "price gouging" doesn't help people in the affected area one iota. In fact it harms them.

Really. And how the do you fill a gas tank up with more gas than you need?

The plain fact of the matter is the merchants didn't have to raise prices but they did because they're greedy douchebags.

You wait on line for gas when you have 3/4 of a tank already in your car, or fill up the family's extra car. Or you wait online with 30 gallons of handheld gas containers and fill those up "just in case."

I saw it happening, and 75% of the lines were caused by people flocking to any station with gas, even if they didnt really need it.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

If the price is set artificially low, then the parking lot is where they will be sleeping because the hog with the big family rented all the available rooms.

Laughable. Now you want to regulate who is allowed to rent what. Fascism, yet another reason the Republicans lost.

No I don't, nitwit. I want the the merchant to be free to set whatever price he wants.

Hey you missed this one:
http://www.usmessageboard.com/polit...s-with-gouging-after-sandy-7.html#post6372174

Only the liberal automatically jumps to the conclusion that the solution to every problem is for government to make some law.

That's not the conclusion we've jumped to. Anti-gouging and anti-hoarding laws are a solution to a very specific problem.

 

[Ravi]

Whether they face additional costs is irrelevant. Price limits mean the demand will be greater than the supply. People will buy more than they need just in case. That means others will get nothing. A higher price induces people to purchase less than they would otherwise. That means more product is available to those who need it the most.

All this sanctimonious blather about "price gouging" doesn't help people in the affected area one iota. In fact it harms them.

Really. And how the do you fill a gas tank up with more gas than you need?

The plain fact of the matter is the merchants didn't have to raise prices but they did because they're greedy douchebags.

You wait on line for gas when you have 3/4 of a tank already in your car, or fill up the family's extra car. Or you wait online with 30 gallons of handheld gas containers and fill those up "just in case."

I saw it happening, and 75% of the lines were caused by people flocking to any station with gas, even if they didnt really need it.

I doubt it seriously. Did you check everyone's fuel gauge?

People in the aftermath of a storm have a lot better things to do than wait in line for something they don't need.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

Whether they face additional costs is irrelevant. Price limits mean the demand will be greater than the supply. People will buy more than they need just in case. That means others will get nothing. A higher price induces people to purchase less than they would otherwise. That means more product is available to those who need it the most.

All this sanctimonious blather about "price gouging" doesn't help people in the affected area one iota. In fact it harms them.

Really. And how the do you fill a gas tank up with more gas than you need?

The plain fact of the matter is the merchants didn't have to raise prices but they did because they're greedy douchebags.

You wait on line for gas when you have 3/4 of a tank already in your car, or fill up the family's extra car. Or you wait online with 30 gallons of handheld gas containers and fill those up "just in case."

I saw it happening, and 75% of the lines were caused by people flocking to any station with gas, even if they didnt really need it.

Hence fuel rationing.Gov. Christie signs order to ration gas in 12 N.J. counties | NJ.com

 

[G.T.]

waltky is a male poster named spinach. "Granny says," lol sick fawker. Go jerk off to pogo and predict market crashes homey.

 

[Dick Tuck]

I didn't say they didn't charge a "market price". Only an idiot would pretend such a term has a meaningful use in the context of a natural disaster.

Do you think the laws of economics are suspended during a disaster? If the supply is reduced, then the market price goes up. Laws that prevent merchants from charging the market price cause shortages, and the product quickly disappears from the shelves.

That's economics, and none of your hysterical sanctimonious pontificating about "price gouging" will alter it.

The laws of New Jersey sure weren't suspended, were they?

 

[Dick Tuck]

waltky is a male poster named spinach. "Granny says," lol sick fawker. Go jerk off to pogo and predict market crashes homey.

Is that the same spinach that used to post on Hannity?

 

[The Rabbi]

Sure, take them down. Eliminate any incentive for companies to bring energy and goods to the people who need them. Their need isn't that important so let's slow it down.

no, let's excuse price gouging during an emergency

it's the christian thing to do

No, let's make unavailability of needed commodities the rule. Fuck 'em!

 

[sfcalifornia]

Sure, take them down. Eliminate any incentive for companies to bring energy and goods to the people who need them. Their need isn't that important so let's slow it down.

no, let's excuse price gouging during an emergency

it's the christian thing to do

No, let's make unavailability of needed commodities the rule. Fuck 'em!

No, let's make commodities available only to those who can afford them. Fuck everyone else.

 

[sfcalifornia]

Whether they face additional costs is irrelevant. Price limits mean the demand will be greater than the supply. People will buy more than they need just in case. That means others will get nothing. A higher price induces people to purchase less than they would otherwise. That means more product is available to those who need it the most.

All this sanctimonious blather about "price gouging" doesn't help people in the affected area one iota. In fact it harms them.

Really. And how the do you fill a gas tank up with more gas than you need?

The plain fact of the matter is the merchants didn't have to raise prices but they did because they're greedy douchebags.

You wait on line for gas when you have 3/4 of a tank already in your car, or fill up the family's extra car. Or you wait online with 30 gallons of handheld gas containers and fill those up "just in case."

I saw it happening, and 75% of the lines were caused by people flocking to any station with gas, even if they didnt really need it.

75% uh? And you saw it happening how?

And how did you know this 75% didn't really need it?

 

[The Rabbi]

no, let's excuse price gouging during an emergency

it's the christian thing to do

No, let's make unavailability of needed commodities the rule. Fuck 'em!

No, let's make commodities available only to those who can afford them. Fuck everyone else.

Well, you do that anyway. By imposing price controls you favor people with time to kill, so they can wait on long lines. And most people can afford $30-40 for gasoline. Without price controls you allow everybody to buy but they have to value the commodity.

 

[G.T.]

waltky is a male poster named spinach. "Granny says," lol sick fawker. Go jerk off to pogo and predict market crashes homey.

Is that the same spinach that used to post on Hannity?

Yep..appears hes a big fucking psycho. His name here is based on pogo's creator. Pogo is a character hes obsessed with...now he says "granny says.."...as a male. Weird fucker